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Shard Sep 23rd 2014 10:32 pm

Re: Emma Watson - UN Goodwill Ambassador for Women's Equality
 
Anyone can be a feminist, even males. Can't see why you are hung up on her career or looks. Female equality and power goes beyond beauty or lack thereof.

gryphea Sep 23rd 2014 10:34 pm

Re: Emma Watson - UN Goodwill Ambassador for Women's Equality
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 11416078)
Daniel Radcliffe got his tackle out on stage every night for months, and it hardly raised a comment.

You're kidding me. It was everywhere

Jingsamichty Sep 23rd 2014 10:37 pm

Re: Emma Watson - UN Goodwill Ambassador for Women's Equality
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11416085)
Anyone can be a feminist, even males. Can't see why you are hung up on her career or looks. Female equality and power goes beyond beauty or lack thereof.

I agree, I certainly support female equality. I'm not railing against Emma Watson for her career or her looks; more for her decision making. She is happy to trade on her appearance and looks which seems to me to be somewhat hypocritical for someone suddenly preaching for an idealistic notion of gender equality.

Alan2005 Sep 23rd 2014 10:41 pm

Re: Emma Watson - UN Goodwill Ambassador for Women's Equality
 
If they got some ordinary feminist in nobody would give a shit.

gryphea Sep 23rd 2014 10:48 pm

Re: Emma Watson - UN Goodwill Ambassador for Women's Equality
 
I'm with Shard. Why can't she do all that?

Your argument is like saying anyone wearing make up or heels at work doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

Clearly you aren't alone in your views; hence the need for the campaign

Shard Sep 23rd 2014 10:48 pm

Re: Emma Watson - UN Goodwill Ambassador for Women's Equality
 
It's only hypocritical if you limit female equality to beauty (a debate itself).

I don't have much if a problem with EW, although on the hypocrisy front I do find Emma Thompsons protestations on climate change etc a bit trying. Not because she's wrong, but because she's the one jetting around the globe complaing that others should not do the same.

Jingsamichty Sep 23rd 2014 11:01 pm

Re: Emma Watson - UN Goodwill Ambassador for Women's Equality
 

Originally Posted by gryphea (Post 11416112)
I'm with Shard. Why can't she do all that?

Your argument is like saying anyone wearing make up or heels at work doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

Clearly you aren't alone in your views; hence the need for the campaign

No, it's like saying someone who models and promotes high heels or makeup shouldn't be taken seriously if they complain about the objectification of women.

dishwashing Sep 23rd 2014 11:03 pm

Re: Emma Watson - UN Goodwill Ambassador for Women's Equality
 
I'm with you, Jings, but the world is, imo, superficial and celeb-tastically mad, plus the UN ain't that much better.

Sally Redux Sep 23rd 2014 11:15 pm

Re: Emma Watson - UN Goodwill Ambassador for Women's Equality
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 11416095)
I agree, I certainly support female equality. I'm not railing against Emma Watson for her career or her looks; more for her decision making. She is happy to trade on her appearance and looks which seems to me to be somewhat hypocritical for someone suddenly preaching for an idealistic notion of gender equality.

Why is it an 'idealistic notion'?

'Trades on her looks'? No man ever does that eh.

Sally Redux Sep 23rd 2014 11:18 pm

Re: Emma Watson - UN Goodwill Ambassador for Women's Equality
 

Originally Posted by dishwashing (Post 11416122)
I'm with you, Jings, but the world is, imo, superficial and celeb-tastically mad, plus the UN ain't that much better.

Yep mad, crazy notion. Silly woman, should look ugly and wear dungarees like a real feminist.

Shard Sep 23rd 2014 11:20 pm

Re: Emma Watson - UN Goodwill Ambassador for Women's Equality
 
From what I've read on her speech the issue she raises is not even one of looks, it's about undermining decisive and empowered women.

Tirytory Sep 23rd 2014 11:35 pm

Re: Emma Watson - UN Goodwill Ambassador for Women's Equality
 
But the reason celebs are asked to take part in anything e.g. Charity fundraiser a is because they have the ability to raise awareness because of their well known profession. I could go do it obviously, not pretty like her so no argument about using my looks or my body;) but I'm not going to capture the media's attention and therefore anything I say will fall on deaf ears. Like it or not she has the ability to get her point across. After all she did capture your attention Jings:p

Now maybe someone famous for just their intelligence and who doesn't advertise might be more "ethical" but name me someone who fits the bill and the media will love. I'm thinking...

Alan2005 Sep 23rd 2014 11:43 pm

Re: Emma Watson - UN Goodwill Ambassador for Women's Equality
 
They should have got Judith Hann off of tomorrows world to do it. She's a celeb and probably a bit brainy.

JamesM Sep 23rd 2014 11:47 pm

Re: Emma Watson - UN Goodwill Ambassador for Women's Equality
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 11416095)
I agree, I certainly support female equality. I'm not railing against Emma Watson for her career or her looks; more for her decision making. She is happy to trade on her appearance and looks which seems to me to be somewhat hypocritical for someone suddenly preaching for an idealistic notion of gender equality.

Not really.

People have always hired people based on appearance and communication skills when their task is delivering a message to others.

Politicians who speak and articulate well usually go far.

Companies seldom hire introverts or quiet people to sell their products.

Emma Watson is successful in her career at a very young age and looks to be an excellent speaker. On that basis she is as qualified to talk about the cause as anyone.

I quite like the fact her opening line is feminism should not be hating men.

How else is one qualified to talk about feminism and do it so people take notice?

Tirytory Sep 23rd 2014 11:47 pm

Re: Emma Watson - UN Goodwill Ambassador for Women's Equality
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 11416158)
They should have got Judith Hann off of tomorrows world to do it. She's a celeb and probably a bit brainy.

I should have said international...this is after all the UN...


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