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BritCanadaNewbie Sep 12th 2021 11:33 am

Emma Raducanu!
 
Great win for Emma!
Shame it wasn't on alot in downtown Toronto. Would have been great to watch with Fellow Expats! Think she was born in North York here in Toronto. So a Win for Toronto and Bromley South London(Where I'm from :)

Bravo~!

dbd33 Sep 12th 2021 12:24 pm

Re: Emma Raducanu!
 

Originally Posted by BritCanadaNewbie (Post 13050645)
Great win for Emma!
Shame it wasn't on alot in downtown Toronto. Would have been great to watch with Fellow Expats! Think she was born in North York here in Toronto. So a Win for Toronto and Bromley South London(Where I'm from :)

Bravo~!

It's a great achievement for her and she seems a personable young woman so that's all good. But, she's a Romanian Chinese born in Canada representing Britain against an Ecuadorian Filipino representing Canada to replace a Haitian Japanese. The idea of nationality seems misplaced. She's just her.

Former Lancastrian Sep 12th 2021 1:10 pm

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Wasn't Andy Murray Scottish when he lost but British when he won? I agree with dbd she is just her. Lets see where she is in another 4 years time as many a young tennis player burnt themselves out and there will always be another on the next bus. Very hot property at the moment for endorsing all sorts of things and I expect her to adorn a Wheaties box very soon but her brand will not be as great as Air Jordan or CR7.

Danny B Sep 12th 2021 1:14 pm

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She only won cos of that medical timeout, she robbed the true Canuck;)

I love reading Twitter comments…

RICH Sep 12th 2021 1:31 pm

Re: Emma Raducanu!
 
2 incredibly skilled athletes regsrdless of where born or where their parents were born, fact is they are now commodities for big business to manipulate..

abner Sep 12th 2021 3:02 pm

Re: Emma Raducanu!
 

Originally Posted by RICH (Post 13050657)
...fact is they are now commodities for big business to manipulate..

Yeah, that's their biggest problem right now... :hysterical:

Damn, didn't Raducanu look comfortable behind the wheel of that McLaren?

mikelincs Sep 12th 2021 8:08 pm

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I suspect there haven't been any other tennis finals with such a mix of nationalities playing on both sides of the net. I make it 7 counting the Canadian part as two. I hop she buys the house next to Farage, as he said he never wanted to live next door to a Romanian, and what will Patel say? seeing the pages devoted to an immigrant. She has already given TV interviews to Romanian TV and Chinese TV. and of course, given her heritage, she used their own languages. Her biggest problem, at the moment, will be the expectations heaped on her. Her next match will have her expected to win everything. She has jumped from a ranking of 336 before Wimbledon to 23 now.

Jingsamichty Sep 12th 2021 9:14 pm

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I watched the match and was delighted for her, she seems a nice young lady. I was really disappointed to read the Sunday papers where it was suggesting she could become sports first billion-dollar female. She's barely woken up and her achievement has already just been reduced to how much money she could amass. What's wrong with people?

Danny B Sep 13th 2021 3:13 am

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This was a fanta$tic idea by her agent, now she has all the Chinese media wetting their pants as she is 'half Chinese' and she speaks fluent Mandarin....this girl is going to be minted by the end of the year.



Almost Canadian Sep 13th 2021 3:57 am

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Originally Posted by RICH (Post 13050657)
2 incredibly skilled athletes regsrdless of where born or where their parents were born, fact is they are now commodities for big business to manipulate..

Isn't it her choice as to which endorsements she chooses to accept?

dbd33 Sep 13th 2021 4:38 am

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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 13050839)
Isn't it her choice as to which endorsements she chooses to accept?

Besides which, if she gave up tennis and took up bookkeeping or plumbing or computer programming, she'd still be a commodity for big business to manipulate.

JamesM Sep 13th 2021 4:55 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13050651)
It's a great achievement for her and she seems a personable young woman so that's all good. But, she's a Romanian Chinese born in Canada representing Britain against an Ecuadorian Filipino representing Canada to replace a Haitian Japanese. The idea of nationality seems misplaced. She's just her.

If we say she's British we can claim some sort of jingoistic patriotic victory for ourselves.

I personally made great sacrifice watching that tennis on my sofa with a glass of red in hand. I even refilled it myself.

She is a product of our fine tennis player producing system. When we watched Wimbledon, over the years, for that two weeks and complained continuously about Jo Durie and Jeremy Bates not being good enough we all played our part.

All that aside she was comfortably better than everyone she played and if she avoids injury will likely win many.

BritCanadaNewbie Sep 13th 2021 4:57 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13050651)
It's a great achievement for her and she seems a personable young woman so that's all good. But, she's a Romanian Chinese born in Canada representing Britain against an Ecuadorian Filipino representing Canada to replace a Haitian Japanese. The idea of nationality seems misplaced. She's just her.

Strange thing to say. Any sports man or woman doing a sporting achievement would be just on their shoulders?? Her nationality is not misplaced and not overblown. I think you need to research before race trolling the origins of her parents??
She's very much British. She's went to the same primary school as my nephews. She' came to UK when she 2. She only 1 nationality which is British. She is NOT a dual national. Its something to celebrate to as we've not a decent female British tennis player come through our BRITISH state systems at all for 40 years.
What she did and how did it is a complete marvel. Perhaps one of the greatest in any sport.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...itish-win.html

JamesM Sep 13th 2021 5:08 am

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Originally Posted by BritCanadaNewbie (Post 13050857)
Strange thing to say. Any sports man or woman doing a sporting achievement would be just on their shoulders?? Her nationality is not misplaced and not overblown. I think you need to research before race trolling the origins of her parents??
She's very much British. She's went to the same primary school as my nephews. She' came to UK when she 2. She only 1 nationality which is British. She is NOT a dual national. Its something to celebrate to as we've not a decent female British tennis player come through our BRITISH state systems at all for 40 years.
What she did and how did it is a complete marvel. Perhaps one of the greatest in any sport.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...itish-win.html

What are your thoughts on Britney getting engaged again?

​​​​​​https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...VEN-stone.html

Jerseygirl Sep 13th 2021 5:28 am

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Originally Posted by BritCanadaNewbie (Post 13050857)
Strange thing to say. Any sports man or woman doing a sporting achievement would be just on their shoulders?? Her nationality is not misplaced and not overblown. I think you need to research before race trolling the origins of her parents??
She's very much British. She's went to the same primary school as my nephews. She' came to UK when she 2. She only 1 nationality which is British. She is NOT a dual national. Its something to celebrate to as we've not a decent female British tennis player come through our BRITISH state systems at all for 40 years.
What she did and how did it is a complete marvel. Perhaps one of the greatest in any sport.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...itish-win.html

AFAIK she has not renounced her Canadian citizenship, therefore, she is a dual Canadian/British citizen. I have no idea whether she inherited her parents’ nationalities.

BritCanadaNewbie Sep 13th 2021 5:35 am

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 13050861)
AFAIK she has not renounced her Canadian citizenship, therefore, she is a dual Canadian/British citizen. I have no idea whether she inherited her parents’ nationalities.

so what are you saying here? ?? Because you don't personally know her she MUST be a dual citizen and until you personally know her nationality must be questioned and not identified as British? I see...:blink:

Jerseygirl Sep 13th 2021 5:41 am

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Originally Posted by BritCanadaNewbie (Post 13050865)
so what are you saying here? ?? Because you don't personally know her she MUST be a dual citizen and until you personally know her nationality must be questioned and not identified as British? I see...:blink:

I am saying she is a dual citizen of Canada and the UK. Are you saying because you don’t personally know her that she only has one citizenship…British? :p

Danny B Sep 13th 2021 5:50 am

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Boris Johnson was born in New York City and only recently relinquished his American passport when the Internal Revenue Service chased him for unpaid taxes....does that make him a yank?

Jerseygirl Sep 13th 2021 5:51 am

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Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 13050870)
Boris Johnson was born in New York City and only recently relinquished his American passport when the Internal Revenue Service chased him for unpaid taxes....does that make him a yank?

If he officially relinquished his US citizenship…no.

Almost Canadian Sep 13th 2021 5:51 am

Re: Emma Raducanu!
 

Originally Posted by BritCanadaNewbie (Post 13050857)
Strange thing to say. Any sports man or woman doing a sporting achievement would be just on their shoulders?? Her nationality is not misplaced and not overblown. I think you need to research before race trolling the origins of her parents??
She's very much British. She's went to the same primary school as my nephews. She' came to UK when she 2. She only 1 nationality which is British. She is NOT a dual national. Its something to celebrate to as we've not a decent female British tennis player come through our BRITISH state systems at all for 40 years.
What she did and how did it is a complete marvel. Perhaps one of the greatest in any sport.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...itish-win.html

IIRC it was Steve Cram that, when asked at a major tournament how he felt about all the British support he would be receiving, said something like, "Britain doesn't get up with me to train every morning and, with the greatest of respect, I am doing this for me..."

You can be proud of her if you wish to but that doesn't alter the fact that her achievements are hers, not Britain's. From the sound of it, she had a terrible time earlier in the summer with the expectation of the nation so I am very pleased to hear that she came through that OK.

Unless she is competing in the Billie Jean King Cup, or the Olympics, her nationality is irrelevant.

Danny B Sep 13th 2021 5:51 am

Re: Emma Raducanu!
 

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 13050859)
What are your thoughts on Britney getting engaged again?

​​​​​​https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...VEN-stone.html

#FreeBritney

Danny B Sep 13th 2021 5:54 am

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 13050871)
Not anymore.

What about Elon Musk, he holds three citizenships.

Jerseygirl Sep 13th 2021 5:56 am

Re: Emma Raducanu!
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 13050874)
What about Elon Musk, he holds three citizenships.

What about him? So does my granddaughter, she was born in Canada…her father is Canadian, her mother is a UK/US citizen. We called her the ABC baby, because she is American, British and Canadian. :D

dbd33 Sep 13th 2021 6:02 am

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Originally Posted by BritCanadaNewbie (Post 13050865)
so what are you saying here? ?? Because you don't personally know her she MUST be a dual citizen and until you personally know her nationality must be questioned and not identified as British? I see...:blink:

I'm saying it doesn't matter what citizenship she has, her success is not the result of her having specific passports.

Danny B Sep 13th 2021 6:46 am

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 13050875)
What about him? So does my granddaughter, she was born in Canada…her father is Canadian, her mother is a UK/US citizen. We called her the ABC baby, because she is American, British and Canadian. :D

Personally I don't think the public care about what citizenship she holds, they care more about what she looks like. No one gives a crap about Boris & Elon as they are white males, but as soon as you mix some dark complexion into someone, opinions get heated. Look what happened to Megan Markle and Daily Mail readers frothing at the mouth to get a first glimpse of how black Lilibet & Archie look. It's absolutely dreadful that people still think like this.

I have mixed race kids (both are adults now) and it was much tougher for my Daughter, she was always described as 'exotic looking' whereas my Son was described as having a 'nice tan'. Kind of sad really.

BritCanadaNewbie Sep 13th 2021 7:41 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13050879)
I'm saying it doesn't matter what citizenship she has, her success is not the result of her having specific passports.

No one said it was because of the passports. You've got a cultural bashing fixation from the outset.
You can say that about anything of any sporting situation ? if the England footy team win the world cup we shouldn't celebrate that their representing England, we should individually recognise them as a load of blokes kicking around a bag of air on some grass who kick and run faster than the the other set of blokes???

End of the day she's a product of Beckenham Langley Park tennis club and the British coaches that spotted her. Then her talent , drive and determination. Back to the rock for you to crawl back under I think.. or you can try throw stones from there if you like...

dbd33 Sep 13th 2021 7:56 am

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Originally Posted by BritCanadaNewbie (Post 13050906)
No one said it was because of the passports. You've got a cultural bashing fixation from the outset.
You can say that about anything of any sporting situation ? if the England footy team win the world cup we shouldn't celebrate that their representing England, we should individually recognise them as a load of blokes kicking around a bag of air on some grass who kick and run faster than the the other set of blokes???

End of the day she's a product of Beckenham Langley Park tennis club and the British coaches that spotted her. Then her talent , drive and determination. Back to the rock for you to crawl back under I think.. or you can try throw stones from there if you like...

Pah, she's a product of multiculturalism, claiming someone as a national is so 19th century.

BritCanadaNewbie Sep 13th 2021 12:05 pm

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good debate - >
pesky lefties!

dbd33 Sep 13th 2021 2:24 pm

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Originally Posted by BritCanadaNewbie (Post 13050975)
good debate - > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0XmvSm2O1k
pesky lefties!

GB News? There's **** all chance of that playing on this machine.

scrubbedexpat091 Sep 13th 2021 2:52 pm

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So from what I gather, she was born in Canada, then at a young age parents relocated to the UK, where she has lived for 16/17 of her 18 years on the planet.

Well I guess she is technically an immigrant legally speaking, but eh she is just as British as anyone else here age, she spent most of her formative years in the UK, not Canada.

Silly really the fuss being made of labels, but seems the world we live in now.

My wife is no more Swiss than I am in reality, but because the sperm that met the egg that produced my wife happened to be sperm from a Swiss citizens, she gained Swiss citizenship, but really she isn't Swiss in culture or anything else beyond the fact the sperm came from a man with Swiss Citizenship.








JamesM Sep 13th 2021 2:59 pm

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Originally Posted by BritCanadaNewbie (Post 13050975)
good debate - >
pesky lefties!

You know that is not a debate don't you?

dbd33 Sep 13th 2021 11:09 pm

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 13051009)
You know that is not a debate don't you?


Is it a polemic arguing for rejoining the EU in order to secure a supply of tennis players?

bxpuser053290 Sep 14th 2021 12:26 am

Re: Emma Raducanu!
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 13050718)
I watched the match and was delighted for her, she seems a nice young lady. I was really disappointed to read the Sunday papers where it was suggesting she could become sports first billion-dollar female. She's barely woken up and her achievement has already just been reduced to how much money she could amass. What's wrong with people?

Not just that... she seems to have become the focus for unhinged political ideologues to make their stupid, boring points yet again. Sad people can't just enjoy a fantastic victory, a great story and someone who seems to have the humility all true champions do. I hope she goes on to do great things in her tennis career.

JamesM Sep 14th 2021 8:19 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13051100)
Is it a polemic arguing for rejoining the EU in order to secure a supply of tennis players?

It's embarrassing that BoJo has just put up National Insurance to raise substantial money for the NHS which is almost equal to the money that the Leave campaign promised on the red bus.

That with all things shortage that Britain is now experiencing show the cluster of Brexit.

But it's ok a tennis match was won and because we claim we don't see the girls heritage us on the far right are making the world a better place.

caretaker Sep 14th 2021 9:17 am

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 13051347)
But it's ok a tennis match was won and because we claim we don't see the girls heritage us on the far right are making the world a better place.

I've sort of followed the thread, but I don't understand why you are all fighting. She has both Canadian and UK citizenship, but she has lived almost all her life in Britain and represented Britain in the match. What am I missing here?

Danny B Sep 14th 2021 9:31 am

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Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 13051377)
I've sort of followed the thread, but I don't understand why you are all fighting. She has both Canadian and UK citizenship, but she has lived almost all her life in Britain and represented Britain in the match. What am I missing here?

Some people on the left thought that it would be a good idea to point out to people on the right that she has immigrant parents, and that she wasn't even born in the UK, blah blah blah...basically trying to put a downer on her amazing win.

caretaker Sep 14th 2021 9:48 am

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Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 13051382)
Some people on the left thought that it would be a good idea to point out to people on the right that she has immigrant parents, and that she wasn't even born in the UK, blah blah blah...basically trying to put a downer on her amazing win.

Wankers.

BritCanadaNewbie Sep 14th 2021 10:42 am

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Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 13051391)
Wankers.

Yup big time. You see who the idiots are on here.. sad aint it

caretaker Sep 14th 2021 11:23 am

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Originally Posted by BritCanadaNewbie (Post 13051424)
Yup big time. You see who the idiots are on here.. sad aint it

So you agree she has dual citizenship then, good. From your earlier post I was a bit worried you didn't understand.

scrubbedexpat091 Sep 14th 2021 11:24 am

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Until this thread I had never heard of this person, so I did learn something from the original thread itself.


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