Kingsboy48

The Elections BIll in Westminster has now received Royal Assent. The bill gives the right to vote for all expats regardless of how long they've been out of the UK. This is potentially huge for pensioners, and their voting family members, living in Canada, Australia amongst other places where the UK state pension is 'frozen'. There are around 500,000 'frozen' pensioners around the world, many of whom lost the chance to vote previously. Now that their vote is restored hopefully the government will take our requests to be treated like the other 96% of pensioners, and have our annual pensions uprated, more seriously since there's some votes to be had.

Former Lancastrian

I am not holding my breath and this gets talked about every year along with the usual petition but nowt get's done.

CanadaJimmy

Not sure how to feel about this, my life is in Canada, I don't think I have a right to have a say in how the UK governs itself. But best of luck with the pension thing.

BristolUK

I've always taken that view - although there are exceptions. For example, the Brexit referendum would affect the usefulness of your passport so I felt that was a legitimate reason for voting. The frozen pension issue is also legitimate.

Here's an idea. I'd rather be able to vote in Canada without having to become a citizen. How about I exchange the right to vote in the UK for the right to vote in Canada. One of those reciprocal things.

Former Lancastrian

Yeah but you are a Brit so have the godamned right to complain about anything and everything as that's what Brits are good at. Today I am wearing my I am Canadian hat but tomorrow who knows.

Kingsboy48

As someone who has worked in Germany using my British passport I was aggrieved at not being able to vote in the Brexit vote and I've now lost the right to easily work in the EU (though thankfully I recently retired anyway). Frozen pensions issue is the only thing I feel obligated to vote in a GE about. I know it's been talked about etc for years but I do believe we'll get there sooner rather than later.

scilly

Same here. I really don't feel that I now know enough about happenings, politics etc in the UK to have the right to a say by voting over there.

I have voted here for almost 50 years now because Canada is my home, not the UK.

As for pensions, neither OH or myself had much pension invested in the UK because we in effect only had 21/2 years of full employment after university and before leaving the UK, and we were advised by our accountant to withdraw everything that had been paid in during those 2.5 years as well as the previous 10 or more years of summer time jobs, Christmas mail delivery etc.

That gave us a little sum to help with settling down over here.

dbd33

I haven't voted in Canada because I don't feel settled here. I don't think one should dabble in the affairs of a foreign country. I'm at least as well informed about politics in the UK as the average voter and will not hesitate to vote if the chance arises.

bats

Withdraw money from the state pension scheme? can you do that? I am surprised

Pollyana

So am I, would love to know how its done!

BristolUK

I'm guessing Scilly meant employee pension contributions rather than NI ones.

bats

I wondered but then the Christmas post job doesnt have a pension scheme. Anyway with 21 years of NI contributions he would probably get $500 a month state pension

scrubbedexpat134

I think he meant 2 1/2 (2.5) years.

bats

I think you are right. So rereading he probably has 12/35th of a state pension that he could claim.

Kingsboy48

I would be surprised if very much, if any, National Insurance was paid on those years of short term/ part time jobs. Looks to me as if he only paid N.I. on 2 1/2 years of full time employment. You need a minimum 10 FULL years of N.I. contributions before you can get any UK state pension so he's probably not eligible for anything. He would have been able to buy back years to qualify but that ship has almost certainly sailed by now. He could contact britishpensions.com who, for just $25, will advise him on his entitlement, how to pay back any years and provide further help.