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Does any of it answer the question regarding Taleeb the house-flipper, "What should be done?"

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Yep. Second paragraph shows what could be done if Trudeau meant what he said. Easy. Liberals had no compunction kicking a sitting MP out of their caucus for telling the truth.

Of course Taleeb has been a flipper for years and nobody actually forced LPC to select him in the first place.

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There again thinking outside the box the only reason Taleeb could afford to become a politician and run for office is because of the money he made flipping houses :lol:

And besides the usual it is your duty to vote, my grandfather fought for your right to vote or any other cliche Why should I vote for any of these clowns accepting the fact that Trudeau, O'Toole, Singh and Paul don't live in my riding. Oh I hear vote for the party. Well **** that when my elected MP is whipped into a vote that I disagree with and that the MP disagrees with but is forced to vote by the party then that party no longer represents me.

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So are you saying Trudeau should try to kick him out of the party and replace him with another candidate and force him to run as an independent or something?

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Of course. Assuming Trudeau was honest when attacking the flippers. Except he can’t run another candidate in that particular district. Just like Tories couldn’t replace their candidate in Nova Scotia.

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I don't think people who might vote for Taleeb are the same sort who might have voted for Jodie Wilson-Raybould, so he loses some there, and denying that he was a speculator in the face of overwhelming publicity about his speculating should theoretically kill his chances. According to this he's only a couple of points behind the CPC candidate, but I can't see how.
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Because some voters are idiots:lol:
Honestly some of the reasons I have heard for voting for a candidate baffle me. Oh my grandad says he is a good guy/woman so I will vote for them. Oh they represent the LPC/PC/NDP and my dad votes for them and I don't want to piss my dad off. Oh they have promised to get rid of the GST :rofl: they have promised to build X amount of low income housing, the budget will balance itself need I go on?????

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An old Granny saying "He looks like such a nice young man!" is classic. Anyone who runs government has to accomplish the same tasks, so there's a degree of same stuff-different sack. People vote on party lines, for individual candidates (he does look like a nice young man), for platform policies or promises (or what they imagine them to be), they vote strategically (maybe), and in the end we get what we choose.

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Aren't you a Tory? Surely, speculation with some related dishonesty, is right up your alley. I'd think you'd endorse flipper.

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Very true. In fact, the politicians do exactly what the electorate wants them to. We have demonstrated that we want more and bigger handouts right away in a somewhat optimistic hope that the budget will balance itself. Of course if that doesn’t quite work out, the expenditure will have to be cut quite severely later on but who really cares? Which is why every political party is proposing to print money liberally. They are fulfilling the wish of the electorate.

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I am a Tory. I have nothing against people who buy and sell for profit although I think it should be taxed. I don’t endorse lying as the Liberal candidate and his leader clearly did.

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Well there are no more money trees on my balcony (condo liver no garden) so they can **** off coming round to my place. Seriously if you think that any of the mainstream parties will change things for the better including getting the debt down to more manageable levels and that thousands of low income houses will be built and they will take the profit away from long term care facilities then you are living in cloud cuckoo land.

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One down side to this style of government, the PM has too much control over MP's, one upside to the US system is party leaders can't force senators or house members to vote a certain way and can't boot senators or house members from the party for disagreeing, sure they can try to whip up the support they need for iffy to pass legislation, but they can't force anyone in their party to vote a specific way nor kick them out.

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In that riding we have:

Liberal candidate who is a housing speculator promising along with his party to fix that.

The conservative party candidate who has actively fought BC's speculation and vacancy tax.

Safe to say its unlikely either of those 2 are interested in trying to fix the housing problems in Canada.

Also a fair chunk of older, wealthy, homeowners who have 0 interest in the housing market changing because they being homeowners have vested interested in things not changing.

It's renters who lose the most, many of whom would prefer to own but being renters are not the majority of the population, politicians don't care if people are having to pay 50/60/70% of their income just to rent.

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I think its a matter of which party will get the debt to completely unmanageable levels superfast. Check out Liberal fiscal plan.

So more government, more spending, more deficits, debts and taxes. That’s the “plan”. It’s a gamble that everything will go well, Covid will be defeated right away, interest rates will never rise, there’ll be no recession or natural disasters and that the financial markets will continue to fund and support a spreading ocean of public debt without punishing the currency. The plan builds on the trope that everybody gets a pony and by whacking corps and rich people (both of them) the 99% can live happily ever after. Never happened but this time it will. They also assumed GDP will grow astronomically and consistently as opposed to what is actually happening.

Its also a bet on electorate being terrible at basic maths and I think they are right.



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