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Re: Early Elections?
Maybe we are getting off topic here but in support of my above post here is an extract from
https://climateinstitute.ca/news/ind...nalysis-shows/ OTTAWA—Climate policies are reducing Canada’s greenhouse gas emissions, and industrial carbon pricing is the single biggest driver, according to new analysis by the Canadian Climate Institute. The paper, Which Canadian climate policies will have the biggest impact by 2030?, features the first rigorous analysis attributing emissions reductions to collective and individual climate policies. It examines, first, how policies implemented to date have affected Canada’s emissions trajectory and, second, how major climate policies are expected to impact emissions between 2025 and 2030. By 2030, industrial carbon pricing (which includes various types of large-emitter trading systems) is projected to contribute between 23 and 39 per cent (or 53 to 90 Mt) of avoided emissions from all policies implemented to date. And between now and 2030, these large-emitter trading systems—such as Ontario’s emissions performance standard or Alberta’s TIER system—will do more than any other policy to cut emissions, delivering between 20 and 48 per cent of emissions reductions expected from Canada’s Emissions Reductions Plan moving forward....... |
Re: Early Elections?
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 13297398)
The aim was to reduce carbon emissions wasn't it and, on that metric, it has been an abject failure.
Perhaps you are thinking of (and propagating) the myth that has led people to wrongly believe it hasn't as illustrated by a few opinion polls. |
Re: Early Elections?
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 13297410)
I'm not finding a single source that backs up that assertion. Wiki, the UN, ecofiscal, Canadian climate institute, smart prosperity institute...all confirm reduced emissions.
Perhaps you are thinking of (and propagating) the myth that has led people to wrongly believe it hasn't as illustrated by a few opinion polls. |
Re: Early Elections?
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 13297374)
I always wonder how people know this. Did any of your friends tell you that they voted thinking they were voting in a federal election?
Vancouver Sun - NDP asks court to put the B.C. back in Conservative party on ballots The NDP said voters are telling NDP door-knockers they intend to vote for Poilievre, leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, in the upcoming provincial election or that they want to vote Prime Minister Justin Trudeau out of office. |
Re: Early Elections?
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 13297431)
Evidence please. That shows that Canada's carbon emissions have reduced and that that reduction is attributable to the carbon tax that Trudeau introduced, and not others things.
Yes, that's fair. :rofl: |
Re: Early Elections?
Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy
(Post 13297357)
He's hoping people haven't realized yet, and him winning will be even less likely once Carney becomes liberal leader (provided the liberals don't select Freeland).
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Re: Early Elections?
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 13297535)
I think Doug Ford has realized and is positioning himself as the conservative not aligned with Trump; the pro-Canada conservative.
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Re: Early Elections?
Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy
(Post 13297357)
He's hoping people haven't realized yet, and him winning will be even less likely once Carney becomes liberal leader (provided the liberals don't select Freeland).
By the time we get an election the economy will probably be in such a mess that people will be voting for Trump. |
Re: Early Elections?
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 13297535)
I think Doug Ford has realized and is positioning himself as the conservative not aligned with Trump; the pro-Canada conservative.
They should rather think how they address the tariff issue at the border rather than calling an early election, - and Ford already does have a mandate for that. Tariff less trade at the border between Canada and the US is around 40 years old, this is how long the two economies are connected. I don't think the US has even the infrastructure in place to collect the tariffs?. Trained customs officers? Forms to fill out? Bills to be paid? Where and when? right at the border?I think what's possibly going to happen is that this may result in a legal row as well. After all, in a supply chain economy between Canada and the US, US investment is also affected by this. What are investors in the US going to say and how are they going to react if their business investment isn't showing the performance they expect? It's possible that these tariffs are to be ruled illegal. However that might be a long legal battle, and to Trump it'll be personal, it's about a "strong man's ego" behing hurt. |
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