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dbd33 Jul 15th 2021 6:29 am

Re: Dundas
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 13029813)
It seems old Dundas has become a persona non grata.

Streisand effect for me. I had no idea Dundas was a person.

DaveLovesDee Jul 15th 2021 6:43 am

Re: Dundas
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 13029760)
What about all the companies that produce maps be it paper or digital? Will a Sat Nav have enough room to display the road you are on?
I don't really care if they change them which should also have been an option for the poll.

The council has already voted to change the name. All that's left is deciding what to change it to...

Siouxie Jul 15th 2021 7:51 am

Re: Dundas
 
(and all amenities with the same name)


named in honour of Henry Dundas, 1st Viscount Melville — an 18th-century politician from Scotland who used his power to delay the freedom of slaves in Britain.

He later became known as "The Great Tyrant" for tweaking an anti-slavery bill that would delay the abolition of the slave trade by roughly 15 years. His actions froze the freedom of roughly 630,000 slaves.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...next-1.5607907

caretaker Jul 15th 2021 8:48 am

Re: Dundas
 
The old Victory Burlesque was on the corner of Spadina and Dundas.

jeremy brewer Jul 15th 2021 5:36 pm

Re: Dundas
 
Hi
How about going neutral

and just numbering all the streets

then no one will ever have any problems

​​​​​
cheers
jerry

Shard Jul 15th 2021 7:31 pm

Re: Dundas
 

Originally Posted by jeremy brewer (Post 13029962)
Hi
How about going neutral

and just numbering all the streets

then no one will ever have any problems

​​​​​
cheers
jerry

I was surprised to find out that Washington uses letters for some of its streets !

Shard Jul 15th 2021 7:32 pm

Re: Dundas
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13029820)
Streisand effect for me. I had no idea Dundas was a person.

Ditto on Dundas.

abner Jul 15th 2021 9:40 pm

Re: Dundas
 
OK, so I didn't know that (after living 3 decades in Toronto, including 6 years of secondary education, and 4 years of University...who knew?) Clearly there were a lot of gaps in the 'history' curriculum in the 1980s.

But, though now agreeing with the sentiment that "Dundas" should be 'cancelled'--in a good sense--from roads, subway stations, and other desiderata that commemorate a decidedly unworthy and unpleasant historical figure around Toronto, I'd suggest that due care be taken before choosing some replacement name.


Shard Jul 15th 2021 9:44 pm

Re: Dundas
 
[QUOTE=abner;13030005]OK, so I didn't know that (after living 3 decades in Toronto, including 6 years of secondary education, and 4 years of University...who knew?) Clearly there were a lot of gaps in the 'history' curriculum in the 1980s.

But, though now agreeing with the sentiment that "Dundas" should be 'cancelled'--in a good sense--from roads, subway stations, and other desiderata that commemorate a decidedly unworthy and unpleasant historical figure around Toronto, I'd suggest that due care be taken before choosing some replacement name.[/QUOTE]

Rush Street ?

abner Jul 15th 2021 10:17 pm

Re: Dundas
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 13030008)

Rush Street ?

Wilberforce Way

Former Lancastrian Jul 15th 2021 10:23 pm

Re: Dundas
 
Naming anything after a person or group of individuals always has the potential for controversy years down the road. Was Michael Jackson and I guess we can name several other high profile individuals innocent of alleged misgivings since their deaths? Ya think a few Popes and others are sweating on their backgrounds coming to the attention of others?

abner Jul 15th 2021 10:35 pm

Re: Dundas
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 13030021)
Naming anything after a person or group of individuals always has the potential for controversy years down the road. Was Michael Jackson and I guess we can name several other high profile individuals innocent of alleged misgivings since their deaths? Ya think a few Popes and others are sweating on their backgrounds coming to the attention of others?

Does that mean we're not entitled to revisit and reconsider such commemorations, simply because even more bodies might be buried elsewhere...?

Former Lancastrian Jul 15th 2021 10:54 pm

Re: Dundas
 

Originally Posted by abner (Post 13030024)
Does that mean we're not entitled to revisit and reconsider such commemorations, simply because even more bodies might be buried elsewhere...?

What I was pointing out is that if we stopped naming shit after alleged famous people then we wouldn't have this problem. Far easier to pull a statue down and cost effective rather than renaming a street and everything that goes with it.

abner Jul 15th 2021 11:31 pm

Re: Dundas
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 13030031)
What I was pointing out is that if we stopped naming shit after alleged famous people then we wouldn't have this problem. Far easier to pull a statue down and cost effective rather than renaming a street and everything that goes with it.

Good point. I just wish you would have told it to those British-Empire-guys-who-named-things about two centuries ago.

Shard Jul 16th 2021 12:21 am

Re: Dundas
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 13030031)
What I was pointing out is that if we stopped naming shit after alleged famous people then we wouldn't have this problem. Far easier to pull a statue down and cost effective rather than renaming a street and everything that goes with it.

Hopefully the city government (aka Joe Taxpayer) will compensate those businesses that need to rename and get new signage. There seem to be lots of small businesses that are called Dundas something.


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