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Oakvillian Nov 12th 2019 2:37 am

Don Cherry and curtain fabric
 
amidst all the furore over Don Cherry's nasty, bigoted remarks over the weekend (while the fact of his nastiness and bigotry can hardly have been surprise to anyone, the nature and fierceness of the backlash really gave the broadcaster no option but to sack him) I saw this Beaverton piece which kind of sums up my view of the bloated "personality" and his meaninglessness to increasing numbers of Canadians. Curtain-fabric and sofa chintz suppliers everywhere will be quaking in their boots as news circulates that the goatee'd oddity will no longer have an expense account for his custom suits:

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2019/11...coachs-corner/

What a knob.

Dorothy Nov 12th 2019 3:40 am

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Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 12762486)
amidst all the furore over Don Cherry's nasty, bigoted remarks over the weekend (while the fact of his nastiness and bigotry can hardly have been surprise to anyone, the nature and fierceness of the backlash really gave the broadcaster no option but to sack him) I saw this Beaverton piece which kind of sums up my view of the bloated "personality" and his meaninglessness to increasing numbers of Canadians. Curtain-fabric and sofa chintz suppliers everywhere will be quaking in their boots as news circulates that the goatee'd oddity will no longer have an expense account for his custom suits:

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2019/11...coachs-corner/

What a knob.

Whilst I agree that he'sa knob, to be fair Fabricland has been going down for probably 20 years. People don't sew anymore and when the few that do want fabric they go somewhere with good selection and better quality. Whenever I go to visit family I make a trip to Ottawa St (Hamilton) and/or Len's Mill. I've also been known to make a trip across the border to Buffalo to the fabric shops there.

scrubbedexpat091 Nov 12th 2019 3:45 am

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I don't sew but I do know that Fabricland is not the place to go in Vancouver for price or selection.....

I never cared for Don Cherry, always found him annoying.

Oink Nov 12th 2019 4:03 am

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He's a **** and he should of retired, at least 30 years ago.

caretaker Nov 12th 2019 6:33 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 12762509)
He's a **** and he should of retired, at least 30 years ago.

Whether or not 30 years is true, he's stepped in it now. At 85 creeping senility is a fair call. Ron Maclean has apologised for not stopping him, and I wonder if this is going to take him down too. He's only 59 and very popular, but without Cherry he might not carry the spot, and no network will match what he's making now. I think there are retired coaches out there that can replace Cherry and keep the show going, or they can develop a new intermission show. They replaced the HNIC theme song; they can replace Coach's Corner.

Oakvillian Nov 12th 2019 1:57 pm

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Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 12762497)
Whilst I agree that he'sa knob, to be fair Fabricland has been going down for probably 20 years. People don't sew anymore and when the few that do want fabric they go somewhere with good selection and better quality. Whenever I go to visit family I make a trip to Ottawa St (Hamilton) and/or Len's Mill. I've also been known to make a trip across the border to Buffalo to the fabric shops there.

To be clear, The Beaverton is a satirical/spoof news site. To the best of my knowledge, Fabricland is not actually filing for bankruptcy protection. Don Cherry was renowned for wearing clothes made out of fabric more suited to curtains or furniture than to a TV "personality."

JamesM Nov 12th 2019 2:09 pm

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I enjoyed the Beaverton quip.

Don Cherry deserved to be let go and as others have pointed out shouldn't have got this far in the first place.

He is 85 and has plenty of money. He was literally being paid a million dollars a year out of a lost sentiment.

Good riddance and hopefully Iced Hockey, a game dominated by angry white entitled canadians, uses this opportunity to start to arrest the regression the game sees year on year.

caretaker Nov 12th 2019 2:15 pm

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 12762766)
Iced Hockey, a game dominated by angry white entitled canadians

"A game of speed and fury, played by giants with feet of steel."


dbd33 Nov 12th 2019 2:51 pm

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 12762766)

Good riddance and hopefully Iced Hockey, a game dominated by angry white entitled canadians, uses this opportunity to start to arrest the regression the game sees year on year.

I hope it doesn't. There are two people at work who play. They stink and they clutter the office with stuff that stinks. No one wants to say anything to them because it's their country and all but there are hundreds of people in the building who don't play and who mostly don't smell bad. We can't deodorise them because of the scent free policy. The iced hockey players are about as socially acceptable as the snot bubblers and the floor shitters.

spouse of scouse Nov 12th 2019 2:54 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12762820)
and the floor shitters.

People shit on the floor in Canada? Why?

dbd33 Nov 12th 2019 2:57 pm

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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12762827)
People shit on the floor in Canada? Why?

It's the how that interests me more than the why. Cubicles are not large so it's quite a gymnastic feat.

spouse of scouse Nov 12th 2019 3:19 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12762832)
It's the how that interests me more than the why. Cubicles are not large so it's quite a gymnastic feat.

:lol: I'm sure it must just be your work place though, if it was a national trait I'd have heard about it :lol:

dave_j Nov 12th 2019 3:35 pm

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Who is Don Cherry?

caretaker Nov 12th 2019 3:42 pm

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Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12762874)
Who is Don Cherry?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=don+cherry...onical&ia=news

Hurlabrick Nov 12th 2019 3:52 pm

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What I find truly astonishing is not Don Cherry's casual racism (not uncommon for a person of his age), but the fact that many, many obviously young people on a Facebook group I follow (Leafs Nation) are outraged that Don Cherry has been fired and can see nothing wrong with what he said. Some 'he is only saying what we are thinking' and others saying 'what he meant to say was....' and ignoring what he ACTUALLY DID say (and clearly mean). Then of course attacking other with a contrary view as 'Liberals' and 'Snowflakes' and 'not patriotic Canadians' etc.

I confess that I watched this live with the rest of the game, but I zone out when DC goes on about anything that isn't hockey, but my wife spotted the reference immediately and was really angry 'that would include me because I am an immigrant as well'. She is already smarting at not getting a vote in the election as a mere PR.

Just when you start to think that maybe racism is starting to die out as the older generation moves on, you can see that it seems to be alive and active in the younger generation also. No one is born racist, it is a learned condition - where are they learning it from? It is sad and alarming and it seems to be on the rise worldwide.

caretaker Nov 12th 2019 4:21 pm

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Originally Posted by Hurlabrick (Post 12762891)
Just when you start to think that maybe racism is starting to die out as the older generation moves on, you can see that it seems to be alive and active in the younger generation also. No one is born racist, it is a learned condition - where are they learning it from? It is sad and alarming and it seems to be on the rise worldwide.

There are also fans that shout racist slurs at black hockey players and at native teams. There is no reason this should be happening.

JamesM Nov 12th 2019 7:17 pm

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Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12762874)
Who is Don Cherry?

Welcome to Canada's Brexit.

Endless arguing over whether an old bigot should be fired for "saying what he thinks".


Danny B Nov 12th 2019 9:48 pm

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caretaker Nov 12th 2019 10:29 pm

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One educator thinks firing Cherry means a missed opportunity to tell the real story.
"But Steven Purewal, a historian who has long researched the contribution and sacrifice of Indian soldiers during the First World War, said his immediate reaction to the news that Cherry was stepping down was one of disappointment.
“Firings and apologies don’t always work, because what they don’t do is tell the whole story…. What we need to be telling Canadians is that many, many diverse communities fought in the Great War and the Second World War. Without their contributions, we wouldn’t have the freedoms we have today.”
“To my mind, the best possible thing that could have happened was for him to have invited someone more informed on his show, and use his platform to correct what he said,” he said.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6155539/d..._campaign=2014

magnumpi Nov 13th 2019 1:54 am

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Do we all vote him prime minister now, or am I mixing up my racists ? :@) Canada gets so confusing when it gets racist or anything else ist here

macadian Nov 13th 2019 11:17 am

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Truly earth shattering stuff.....media frenzy, outrage bus running at capacity.......Zzzzzzzzzzzz

dbd33 Nov 13th 2019 11:30 am

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Originally Posted by macadian (Post 12763315)
Truly earth shattering stuff.....media frenzy, outrage bus running at capacity.......Zzzzzzzzzzzz

It's not a matter for outrage. He speaks for a living. He said something unacceptable. He gets the boot. Easy stuff.

The comparison above with the Conservative candidate in the last election doesn't hold because Scheer is primarily known for being sexist and homophobic. One may reasonably guess that he's a racist too but that's not his claim to fame. Again, there's no cause for outrage, just don't vote for him, as we didn't.

Tucker Carlson, of course, achieves the trifecta.

macadian Nov 13th 2019 2:34 pm

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Sorry, forgot to add " shock, horror"....:sarcasm:

Paul_Shepherd Nov 13th 2019 4:04 pm

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Originally Posted by macadian (Post 12763315)
Truly earth shattering stuff.....media frenzy, outrage bus running at capacity.......Zzzzzzzzzzzz


I'm pretty sure there will be another outrage bus along shortly.

Atlantic Xpat Nov 13th 2019 4:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 12762509)
He's a **** and he should of retired, at least 30 years ago.

In this as many things, I'm entirely of an accord with Oink!

jandro Nov 13th 2019 5:23 pm

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Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12762550)
Whether or not 30 years is true, he's stepped in it now. At 85 creeping senility is a fair call. Ron Maclean has apologised for not stopping him, and I wonder if this is going to take him down too. He's only 59 and very popular, but without Cherry he might not carry the spot, and no network will match what he's making now. I think there are retired coaches out there that can replace Cherry and keep the show going, or they can develop a new intermission show. They replaced the HNIC theme song; they can replace Coach's Corner.

I didn't detect much creeping senility in Don Cherry. Set in his ways maybe. What's interesting is that he has said similar things in past years about specific groups but he wasn't ordered to step down immediately. His firing might say something about the change in culture (for the better you think?) over time. Ron MacLean gave a series of nods and a thumbs up while Don was ranting and his rambling apology the next day might not save him.

sharkus Nov 14th 2019 1:09 am

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I don't think anyone should really be shocked that he said what he did, he is speaking his mind, disgusting as it obviously is. He's obviously got superpowers, as he can detect someone not wearing a poppy is an immigrant.
yes, I am being sarcastic, we all know he was just being a blatant racist and to be quite blunt he was talking about non-white immigrants, regardless of his attempt to backtrack, even though he claims it's not backtracking by saying he could be talking about Scottish, or Irish immigrants, ie; white immigrants.

I see that many on twitter are dumping sportsnet / rogers over his firing, which I find rather silly, and perhaps they might not realize that this could possibly be seen by others as them endorsing his foul views.

MacLean should have stepped in and said something right then and there, and I think he should learn in the harshest possible way, by being fired, the mistake he made.

JamesM Nov 14th 2019 2:14 am

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Originally Posted by sharkus (Post 12763639)
I see that many on twitter are dumping sportsnet / rogers over his firing, which I find rather silly, and perhaps they might not realize that this could possibly be seen by others as them endorsing his foul views.

None of them can really dump Rogers.

Rogers have a huge financial stake in all of Toronto's sports teams and provide media for them.

They'll all be back within a week.

Rogers stock in the green today.

Oink Nov 14th 2019 2:20 am

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He's just the old days and no matter what old people say, they weren't as good as today.

Partially discharged Nov 14th 2019 2:39 am

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Originally Posted by sharkus (Post 12763639)
MacLean should have stepped in and said something right then and there, and I think he should learn in the harshest possible way, by being fired, the mistake he made.

When has Ron McLean ever done anything so bold as to question the great cerebral entity Don Cherry.

Almost Canadian Nov 14th 2019 5:33 pm

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Here you go:


HGerchikov Nov 14th 2019 5:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 12763660)
When has Ron McLean ever done anything so bold as to question the great cerebral entity Don Cherry.

I don't think he listens to what Cherry is saying, just nods and puts a thumbs up during any pauses. He has much the same expression on his face that my husband gets when I point out a cat requiring adoption. I suspect he had no idea of the full content of the rant until it was subsequently pointed out to him.

Hurlabrick Nov 14th 2019 5:47 pm

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Originally Posted by HGerchikov (Post 12763950)
I don't think he listens to what Cherry is saying, just nods and puts a thumbs up during any pauses. He has much the same expression on his face that my husband gets when I point out a cat requiring adoption. I suspect he had no idea of the full content of the rant until it was subsequently pointed out to him.

That's my take too. I was watching live, I zone out when he goes off topic from hockey and I missed the vital 'you people, you come here....' bit. My wife didn't though. I had to rewind to be sure.....


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