A dog "food" question.
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It's Canadian (Saskatchewan) and has retailers all over the Country - Four in Regina
Last edited by Calgal; Jul 24th 2009 at 8:07 am. Reason: everywhere except for Nunavut, sorry...
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I feed mine brown wholemeal rice, mixed veg (just the frozen stuff) and chicken/beef/salmon/tuna/pilchards. His coat is lovely and shiney, his breath doesnt smell atall and his poops are nice and solid for picking up - joys of being a dog owner!
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Oh right, I remember now they do have that at Lakewood Animal Hospital. I will have to check it out.
And whoever commented about Iams is correct. Years ago Iams used to be good dog food, but when they started selling it at Walmart, they changed the ingredients so it would be cheaper, and its rubbish just like the Purina.
So far as I am aware corn meal or anything with corn in it has absolutely no nutrional value. Its just there because cheap.
You can bet your bottom dollar if dog food is sold at Walmart - its not much good!
And whoever commented about Iams is correct. Years ago Iams used to be good dog food, but when they started selling it at Walmart, they changed the ingredients so it would be cheaper, and its rubbish just like the Purina.
So far as I am aware corn meal or anything with corn in it has absolutely no nutrional value. Its just there because cheap.
You can bet your bottom dollar if dog food is sold at Walmart - its not much good!
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My son is getting a Goldendoodle puppy. I nearly talked him into a Portuguese Water Dog pup - a lady in Moose Jaw has four of them - but he balked at paying $1,900.
Anyway, I always believe that "expensive" dog food is cheaper because you feed less and get less "end" product! However, something in the back of my mind tells me that bigger dogs need different food than smaller dogs because you don't want their bones to grow too quickly - something like that.
I was feeding my little dogs Nutrisource:
http://www.nutrisourcedogfood.com/
But I just switched to Natural Balance to see if will help "hot spots" in one of my dogs.
http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/dog...s/LambDog.html
BTW I looked at the ingredients of Purina Puppy chow and, as I expected the ingredients are garbage. The first listed ingredient is "corn meal"! and the second "chicken bi-products" which I assume might include the feathers!! Yet people feed this garbage to their puppies and probably wonder why the dog is fat and they get great mounds of poop on their lawn!!
So, all you big dog experts - what do you suggest?
Anyway, I always believe that "expensive" dog food is cheaper because you feed less and get less "end" product! However, something in the back of my mind tells me that bigger dogs need different food than smaller dogs because you don't want their bones to grow too quickly - something like that.
I was feeding my little dogs Nutrisource:
http://www.nutrisourcedogfood.com/
But I just switched to Natural Balance to see if will help "hot spots" in one of my dogs.
http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/dog...s/LambDog.html
BTW I looked at the ingredients of Purina Puppy chow and, as I expected the ingredients are garbage. The first listed ingredient is "corn meal"! and the second "chicken bi-products" which I assume might include the feathers!! Yet people feed this garbage to their puppies and probably wonder why the dog is fat and they get great mounds of poop on their lawn!!
So, all you big dog experts - what do you suggest?
Over here, Pedigree Chum is meant to be the best. But look at the ingredients - they list caramel and sugar is bad for dogs' teeth... Plus all the fillers etc etc.
The price has, in my experience, naff all to do with the quality. Expensive foods still list the main meat ingredient at anything from 4 to 25%... If I'm feeding my dog Chicken with Liver, I don't want to feed him a gazillion other things with a bit of beak chucked in at the end!
Best thing and often the cheapest, is to cook for your dog yourself. It's fun, rewarding and at least you know what's in it!
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I couldn't comment on food available in Canada but...
Over here, Pedigree Chum is meant to be the best. But look at the ingredients - they list caramel and sugar is bad for dogs' teeth... Plus all the fillers etc etc.
The price has, in my experience, naff all to do with the quality. Expensive foods still list the main meat ingredient at anything from 4 to 25%... If I'm feeding my dog Chicken with Liver, I don't want to feed him a gazillion other things with a bit of beak chucked in at the end!
Best thing and often the cheapest, is to cook for your dog yourself. It's fun, rewarding and at least you know what's in it!
Over here, Pedigree Chum is meant to be the best. But look at the ingredients - they list caramel and sugar is bad for dogs' teeth... Plus all the fillers etc etc.
The price has, in my experience, naff all to do with the quality. Expensive foods still list the main meat ingredient at anything from 4 to 25%... If I'm feeding my dog Chicken with Liver, I don't want to feed him a gazillion other things with a bit of beak chucked in at the end!
Best thing and often the cheapest, is to cook for your dog yourself. It's fun, rewarding and at least you know what's in it!
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I feed mine Solid Gold WolfKing, and when he goes to the kennels he gets a handful of orijen puppy food in with his dinner as he loves that and it encourages him to eat while his away. I also these days as orijen adult food is a bit like chocolate for him pop a handful of that in his dinner once a day - that way he doesn't seem to fussed about what else is in his bowl. I suppose as he gets older he will go to whatever senior solid gold there is and if that doesn't work we'll find soemthing else. We also buy from a locally owned pet food place, every 12 bags you buy, you get one free.
Good quality food means you spend less in the long run and the poops are much much smaller
Check out the handy dandy link for more info!
www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/
Good quality food means you spend less in the long run and the poops are much much smaller
Check out the handy dandy link for more info!
www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/
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I feed my mini-daschund Orijen, one of the only foods he will actually eat.
Tried raw diets but he turned his nose up to it, he is by far the pickiest dog I have ever seen when it comes to food.
Cheap pet food is like cheap human food, the ingridients will never be as good as the more exspensive stuff.
Generally anything sold in grocery or mass retailers will be of lower quality, and vets normally dont sell much better food, look at Science Diet and the ingridients are not that grand, vets dont learn a whole lot in school on nutrition and generally get bribed, I mean receive funding by the big names to sell certain foods.
Fresh deboned salmon, salmon meal, herring meal, russet potato, fresh deboned lake whitefish, sweet potato, peas, salmon oil (preserved with vitamin E), fresh deboned walleye, fresh deboned herring, sun-cured alfalfa, fresh deboned flounder, fresh deboned lake trout, dehydrated organic kelp, pumpkin, carrots, spinach, turnip greens, apples, cranberries, saskatoon berries, black currants, choline chloride, psyllium, licorice root, angelica root, fenugreek, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, chamomile flowers, dandelion, summer savory, rosemary, sea salt, vitamin supplements (vitamin A, vitamin D3, vitamin E, niacin, vitamin C, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, vitamin B5, vitamin B6, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12), mineral supplements (zinc proteinate, iron proteinate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, selenium), dried Lactobacillus acidophilus product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product.
Now Science diet:
Lamb Meal, Brewers Rice, Rice Flour, Ground Whole Grain Wheat, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Corn Gluten Meal, Cracked Pearled Barley, Pork Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Dried Beet Pulp, Soybean Oil, Chicken Liver Flavor, Flaxseed, Potassium Chloride, Iodized Salt, vitamins (L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, Taurine, minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid, Beta-Carotene, Rosemary Extract.
Which sounds better? Of course most vets will try to convince you SD is better, but just looking at whats its made from shows otherwise.
Meat by-products are ground and cleaned slaughtered meat carcass parts such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs, bones, heads, and intestines (and a small amount of feathers in the case of chicken meat).
Meat Meal: The rendered product from mammal tissues, exclusive of blood, hair, hoof, horn, hide trimmings, manure, stomach and rumen contents except in such amounts as may occur unavoidably in good processing practices.
What this definition doesn't state is that "4D animals" (diseased, dying, decayed, and dead animals) can still be legally used in meat meal. In this case "good processing practices" is an oxymoron.
Tried raw diets but he turned his nose up to it, he is by far the pickiest dog I have ever seen when it comes to food.
Cheap pet food is like cheap human food, the ingridients will never be as good as the more exspensive stuff.
Generally anything sold in grocery or mass retailers will be of lower quality, and vets normally dont sell much better food, look at Science Diet and the ingridients are not that grand, vets dont learn a whole lot in school on nutrition and generally get bribed, I mean receive funding by the big names to sell certain foods.
Fresh deboned salmon, salmon meal, herring meal, russet potato, fresh deboned lake whitefish, sweet potato, peas, salmon oil (preserved with vitamin E), fresh deboned walleye, fresh deboned herring, sun-cured alfalfa, fresh deboned flounder, fresh deboned lake trout, dehydrated organic kelp, pumpkin, carrots, spinach, turnip greens, apples, cranberries, saskatoon berries, black currants, choline chloride, psyllium, licorice root, angelica root, fenugreek, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, chamomile flowers, dandelion, summer savory, rosemary, sea salt, vitamin supplements (vitamin A, vitamin D3, vitamin E, niacin, vitamin C, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, vitamin B5, vitamin B6, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12), mineral supplements (zinc proteinate, iron proteinate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, selenium), dried Lactobacillus acidophilus product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product.
Now Science diet:
Lamb Meal, Brewers Rice, Rice Flour, Ground Whole Grain Wheat, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Corn Gluten Meal, Cracked Pearled Barley, Pork Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Dried Beet Pulp, Soybean Oil, Chicken Liver Flavor, Flaxseed, Potassium Chloride, Iodized Salt, vitamins (L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, Taurine, minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid, Beta-Carotene, Rosemary Extract.
Which sounds better? Of course most vets will try to convince you SD is better, but just looking at whats its made from shows otherwise.
Meat by-products are ground and cleaned slaughtered meat carcass parts such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs, bones, heads, and intestines (and a small amount of feathers in the case of chicken meat).
Meat Meal: The rendered product from mammal tissues, exclusive of blood, hair, hoof, horn, hide trimmings, manure, stomach and rumen contents except in such amounts as may occur unavoidably in good processing practices.
What this definition doesn't state is that "4D animals" (diseased, dying, decayed, and dead animals) can still be legally used in meat meal. In this case "good processing practices" is an oxymoron.
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The guy at the pet store told me that Orijen is the best food that they sell.
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I suppose that is along the same lines as those Little pocket human snack things are marketed as "the Lean Ones" when they contain 1,200 calories each!! So far as I am aware anybody can market their food as anything they like -- it doesn't have to be true! Its up to the customer to read the label on the side.
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Hiya
Thanks for the Barf link, I have nightmare problems with my Labrador bitch and her allergies, ear infections and itchiness. So I have managed to find a stockist here in the UK and ordered her some food.
Fingers crossed it will sort her out
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Thanks for the Barf link, I have nightmare problems with my Labrador bitch and her allergies, ear infections and itchiness. So I have managed to find a stockist here in the UK and ordered her some food.
Fingers crossed it will sort her out
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Stef
Mine are on this - or RAW as it seems to be reffered to here - heres a link - piece of cake - v small white poos - v v v healthy dogs!!
http://www.barfworld.com/
http://www.barfworld.com/
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I thought I would just give it a try. She is currently on Pedigree weight control, but has an apple, carrot, raw egg yolk and if we have a joint with a bone...I cook it off....will now give it to her raw in future and see the butcher to ask if I can have a marrow bone now and then. I am at the point where anything is worth a try as the regular meds, apart from not being good for her in the long run, are costing me a fortune together with the special shampoo.
Thanks again
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Thanks again
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