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Dorothy May 10th 2015 1:32 am

Re: Does Canada need to change their healthcare method?
 

Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 11641638)
Unfortunately I have colleagues in a number of different medical specialities including GPs who make me wonder why they work with patients as they too dislike most people who walk through the door! Maybe they should have been pathologists ...
I don't know any psychiatrists around here who work from home-usually I think work in a group together- I have to say I feel that this is probably wise- I wouldn't want any of my patients come knocking on my door at 3am!:lol:

I think the worst for not liking people are either surgeons or anaesthetists.

scrubbedexpat091 May 10th 2015 2:47 am

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Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 11641984)
I think the worst for not liking people are either surgeons or anaesthetists.

I tend to agree based on the few I have met, although the surgeon my wife had, was one of the nicest, friendliest people I have met.

The one I had for a colonoscopy while not a surgery he was a surgeon was miserable grump who could have at least waited until the medication kicked in. I was concious and watching the screen for the whole thing, wasn't until he was done the medication he gave kicked in and I went out like a light bulb.


If anything I now know what a polyp looks like.


Vets seem to always be nice, animal doctors.

Tirytory May 10th 2015 4:15 am

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Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 11641984)
I think the worst for not liking people are either surgeons or anaesthetists.

Now I don't want to generalize but a lot of the ones I have worked with appeared to show many traits of being bipolar or on the spectrum somewhere.. High functioning of course ;). Social skills often seem to be lacking!

Novocastrian May 10th 2015 6:38 am

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Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11642060)
Now I don't want to generalize but a lot of the ones I have worked with appeared to show many traits of being bipolar or on the spectrum somewhere.. High functioning of course ;). Social skills often seem to be lacking!

Ach, you've been watching too much Doc Martin.

bats May 10th 2015 6:42 am

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Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11642060)
Now I don't want to generalize but a lot of the ones I have worked with appeared to show many traits of being bipolar or on the spectrum somewhere.. High functioning of course ;). Social skills often seem to be lacking!

I sort of agree, the old school ones especially. These days not so much and especially when talking of anaesthetists. I've found them very kind both as a patient and worker. Especially helpful when you are a lipreading x-ray tech and everyone's faces are covered in masks. Now surgeons, certainly the old school ones were often arrogant, rude, and just downright nasty.

caretaker May 10th 2015 7:43 am

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The one I had for a colonoscopy while not a surgery he was a surgeon was miserable grump who could have at least waited until the medication kicked in. I was concious and watching the screen for the whole thing, wasn't until he was done the medication he gave kicked in and I went out like a light bulb.
If anything I now know what a polyp looks like.
Vets seem to always be nice, animal doctors.[/QUOTE]

You don't have to be unconsious for that; complacent is close enough. I watched both my colonoscopies and a gastroscope and I know what he snipped and was able to ask questions while he did it. The most unpleasant bit (except for the fasting in preperation :-() is the bitter freezing they spray in your throat for the gastroscope. I've met some nasty vets, experiences vary.
My gastro-intestinal surgeon is an Englishman btw, seems very nice. I get treated to another gastroscope end of this month, oh boy!:lol:

scilly May 10th 2015 8:06 am

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Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11641956)
We went for lunch the other day with the children... My husband said literally every patient in there was registered with him.. It was a small eaterie but still. Thankfully the children were sweet and well behaved!

It also occurs in other professions as well.

OH taught for over 30 years at a university ...... we used to meet his ex-students all over Canada. We took the train across Canada in 1972 ....... one of the dining car attendants working for the summer said "Hello, Dr xxxxxx. Remember me?"

He's even come across doctors and dentists who had been in at least one of his courses before going on to medical or dental school :lol:

His sister taught in a small town (pop. 5,000), her students worked in every business in town. She found it a little cramping when she felt ready to go for a meal with another man after her husband had been dead for about 4 years. She once said, she was ready for some adult conversation over dinner but every place to eat was staffed by her students! Gossip would have spread before they even began eating!

scilly May 10th 2015 8:23 am

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I wasn't "put out" for either gastroscopies or colonoscopies ............. but they did give some sort of relaxant for the gastroscopies, and I went out like a light.

I too watched the camera for the coloscopy!


I've been lucky ..... I've only had two really bad doctors in all the years we've been over here

Both were specialists.

The first was the pediatrician called in for my unexpected caesarean ......... he was real old school. Women are stupid, do not understand, do not need to be told anything. He told my husband what he'd done, why the baby was in Intensive Care for 24 hours, etc. But not me!

He found out the next day just how mistaken he was!

I'm sorry ............ but I don't keep quiet under those circumstances!

I refused to take the baby back to him after we were released .......... told my GP why, and he agreed with me.


The second was just last year. I was referred to a retinologist for check-up ........... something that happens regularly as I have some strange structure at the back of my eye. This one was the partner of the guy I had seen the year before.

First, I was told the appointment was at the Eye Care Clinic, but when I got there, Dr xxxx was "at his other office". Luckily only 2 blocks away, but still ......

It was a real conveyor belt operation he was running. The waiting room was full, about 25-30 people. People would be called into the back, then return in 1 or 2 minutes. Then called again, return in 2-3 minutes and leave.

Yes ............. he saw each patient only for that last 2-3 minutes!

Add a wet fish hand shake to it.

He said he wanted another exam done, with a dye that would show under the retina. It would turn my skin and eyeballs yellow for 3 - 4 days. The appointment was made at a desk near the examination room. I later cancelled those appointments ......... my sis-i-law died, and my daughter went into hospital in NS the very same day and wanted us over there for when she was released.

I did not re-make the appointments for the exam and follow-up, nor will I go back to that doctor.

I had not one iota of feeling of trust in him



I've had more bad nurses than doctors!!

caretaker May 10th 2015 8:30 am

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Originally Posted by scilly (Post 11642197)
I've had more bad nurses than doctors!!

I've had a couple as well, when I was younger. ;)

Novocastrian May 10th 2015 8:35 am

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Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 11642202)
I've had a couple as well, when I was younger. ;)

:lol: Only a couple? Oh, I see; you mean at the same time.

caretaker May 10th 2015 8:44 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11642206)
:lol: Only a couple? Oh, I see; you mean at the same time.

No need to make a beautiful thing smutty Novo. :lol:
https://youtu.be/7aY7SPeR9no

Novocastrian May 10th 2015 9:24 am

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Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 11642221)
No need to make a beautiful thing smutty Novo. :lol:
https://youtu.be/7aY7SPeR9no

Well, goodness me!! I never thought I'd see the words Novo and smutty in the same sentence.

Oh, no!

Purge your evil eye my comrade.

Dorothy May 10th 2015 11:24 am

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Originally Posted by scilly (Post 11642197)
The second was just last year. I was referred to a retinologist

Ophthalmologist, not retinologist. Ophthalmologist with a subspecialty in retinal diseases (I was an ophthalmic technician for 20 odd years)


Originally Posted by scilly (Post 11642197)
It was a real conveyor belt operation he was running. The waiting room was full, about 25-30 people. People would be called into the back, then return in 1 or 2 minutes. Then called again, return in 2-3 minutes and leave.

Yes ............. he saw each patient only for that last 2-3 minutes!

Yes, 2-3 minutes each. The first room would likely have been his assistant/technician who did a history and vision check and possibly a pressure check then dilated your pupils. You would have had to wait 20-30 minutes for the mydriacyl to take affect before he could see you again. No sense in you sitting in his exam room for 30 minutes waiting for the drops to work, is there? What would you have liked for the doctor to be doing while you waited?

And I think you are being very silly for not returing for the fluorescein angiogram. You go on about "preventative medicine" yet because you don't like waiting for a doctor you forego a very important diagnostic tool that could save your eyesight. :unsure:

Stinkypup May 10th 2015 11:30 am

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I was soooo tempted to comment on the retinologist comment but sat on my hands to prevent me- at least it came from someone who is properly in the know!:lol:

Dorothy May 10th 2015 11:37 am

Re: Does Canada need to change their healthcare method?
 

Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 11642323)
I was soooo tempted to comment on the retinologist comment but sat on my hands to prevent me- at least it came from someone who is properly in the know!:lol:

I used to scream at the TV when House was on "DIAGNOSTICIAN?! WTF is a diagnostician?" :lol: My ex would pat me on the head and say "you're going to give yourself a stroke"


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