Originally Posted by Novocastrian

I couldn't possibly comment on that.

Originally Posted by airbornesapper

Is this more to your liking:

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture...s/Liberals.png

Originally Posted by Novocastrian

How come? The fact is that the other half of this tactic is to spend millions of tax payer's dollars on mean spirited (but undoubtedly effective) attack ads aimed at the opposition parties and to promulgate simple lies about their policies and intentions.

I asked somewhat rhetorically up-thread how stupid are the Canadian electorate?

Harper's opinion on this is clear.

We'll see how right he is.

Originally Posted by Flogger

Perhaps they had just interviewed Airbornesapper.

Originally Posted by Auld Yin

I sincerely hope that taxpayers do not pay for the mean spirited attack ads except that donors to the party are probably taxpayers also. I,as a taxpayer, would certainly baulk at that one.

Originally Posted by Auld Yin

I sincerely hope that taxpayers do not pay for the mean spirited attack ads except that donors to the party are probably taxpayers also. I,as a taxpayer, would certainly baulk at that one.

Originally Posted by Flogger

Do they not all receive federal funds based on their share of the vote?

Originally Posted by Novocastrian

Baulk away. The attack ads since Christmas shouldn't have been paid for by the taxpayer, but the ones coming after the writ has been dropped certainly will be.

I emphasize shouldn't, because it's already clear after Election Canada's investigation into the "in and out" scandal that Harper has as little respect for the law as he does for parliament or the electorate.

Originally Posted by Auld Yin

I sincerely hope that taxpayers do not pay for the mean spirited attack ads except that donors to the party are probably taxpayers also. I,as a taxpayer, would certainly baulk at that one.

Originally Posted by Novocastrian

Baulk away. The attack ads since Christmas shouldn't have been paid for by the taxpayer, but the ones coming after the writ has been dropped certainly will be.

I emphasize shouldn't, because it's already clear after Election Canada's investigation into the "in and out" scandal that Harper has as little respect for the law as he does for parliament or the electorate.

Originally Posted by Auld Yin

So, do you have evidence of this or is this just your form of an attack ad? According to you the Conservatives (Harper) are using public taxpayer funds to finance such activities but the other parties are not permitted the same priveleges. Now that I don't believe.

Originally Posted by JonboyE

I, for one, don't think it is entirely co-incidental that the Government of Canada, sorry, The Harper Government, have recently been re-running the Canada's Action Plan commercials.

These are paid for out of the Government's information budget. Quite who they are meant to inform, given that Canada's Action Plan has finished, is a mystery.

Originally Posted by Oakvillian

Nor I. I think the implication is that the Liberal misappropriation of funds through the sponsorship scandal (where, although there were several hundred million dollars kicking around, the total unrecovered was in the order of $35 million) is somehow a greater evil than the deliberate and calculated lying to the House that Bev Oda was found in contempt for, and the deliberate and calculated witholding of information on key policies which the whole government was found in contempt for, and because of which the government fell today.

In case any Conservatives still labour under the misapprehension that this is not significant: this is the first and only time, anywhere in the world with a Westminster-style political system, ever in history, that a governing party has been found to have been in contempt of parliament. Not an individual MP, or even an individual minister, but the whole government. That is overwhelmingly serious and threatening to the entire system of democracy on which the government of this country depends. It is several orders of magnitude more damning of Harper and his approach to governance than any past misdemeanour of any government of any political stripe, ever.

Originally Posted by London Mike

It's significant that it happened in Canada first, but the fact that it only happened under Harper before it happened in the UK or US (e.g. UK and US over Iraq; Reagan - Iran Contra affair) doesn't make the Harper govt more rotten - just more stupid that they were easily rounded up.

Originally Posted by Steve_P

It would appear that Mr Duceppe is trying to remind Harper of just this fact.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1958049/