Dear Boris
 

Dear Boris
I am not trying to be confrontational by writing this letter but is your shoe size bigger than your IQ?
I see you have just decided that US citizens/permanent residents of the US who have been fully vaccinated can now visit the UK without the need for quarantining on arrival in the UK.

Perhaps you are unaware that there are thousands of UK citizens who live, work and study in Canada and who are fully vaccinated but if they were to return to the UK then they would need to quarantine. It may have also escaped your attention that Canada has a larger percentage of residents fully vaccinated than the USA and I believe until yesterday than the UK itself. So what have we expats in Canada done wrong that you find the necessity that we need to quarantine if travelling back to the UK?

Signed very angry expats across all of Canada.

Re: Dear Boris
 

Take a Midol, mate. The US is a major trading partner with the UK Canada is not. No one is insulting Canada, it's just not the kind of place one would think of.

Re: Dear Boris
 

No Midol required for me. Luckily I have no desire to visit the UK in the near future but I bet you there are quite a few living in Canada want to go back to the UK. What has trade got to do with it? These are UK citizens living in Canada so it shows what the UK thinks of its citizens living abroad.

Re: Dear Boris
 

FL ................... Boris responds to pressure, so which country has been putting pressure on him this time?????

Re: Dear Boris
 

Presumably his masters at the Torygraph (cf D Cummings) we’re more interested in the US than Canada. Hopefully we’re not too far behind.

Re: Dear Boris
 

Maybe but he is, himself, an American by birth so he's bound to think first of the US.

Re: Dear Boris
 

Although he renounced his citizenship in 2016.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...eign-secretary

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...49faa8394d.jpg

Re: Dear Boris
 

Let us know what his reply is :lol:

Re: Dear Boris
 

Someone should also tell Boris that there is a small country called Australia which also contains many expats - though as we aren't ever likely to be able to ravel anyway, I don't suppose anyone cares.

Re: Dear Boris
 

It's a bit much to hope the government of the UK would care about people who walked out on the country. The sensible thing for that government to do is to focus on the people who can benefit the UK by generating tax revenue and other economic activity; immigrants not emigrants.

Re: Dear Boris
 

Re: Dear Boris
 

Erm... didn't we all leave the UK for various reasons? Why should the government of any given country care about people who are not resident there, citizens or not?

Re: Dear Boris
 

True, but:

1. Boris isn't going to read this thread so it's really just a bunch of expats venting. Go with it.
2. My mum is a lifelong tory voter but ain't going to vote for them again if I can't come over to for her 80th birthday in September.
3. See point 1. Again.

:-)

Re: Dear Boris
 

If a government doesn't care about its citizens (first duty of any government) why should it's citizens care for the government?

Re: Dear Boris
 

I cant remember when I joined this site but have been on long enough to see numerous Brits living in Canada post numerous threads about how backward Canada is (banking the main one) and the unavailability of Robinsons Squash, Walkers crisps etc etc. Some are funny yet these people came to Canada for a variety of reasons. Some have remained here for years but still complain about Canada.
So you posters who think Canada is not as good as the UK how do you now feel about your Government telling you that if you want to come back to the UK for a vacation etc then you will need to quarantine for 10 days?
Some of you are still paying voluntary NI contributions or just cant be arsed to take out Canadian citizenship as you still feel as you are a Brit and not Canadian.

Enjoy your extended stay in this Canadian gulag.

BTW no desire to travel or move back to the UK so I don't need any Midol or other medication.

Re: Dear Boris
 

I pay NI. How does that relate to health regulations in the UK?

Re: Dear Boris
 

It doesn't and where did I implicate it does? The reason I put that in was another poster inferred that these expats had left the UK or words they used walked out on the country. Those who are still paying NI contributions are contributing to the UK.

Re: Dear Boris
 

That's not a contribution to the UK. That's just an investment, if I buy shares in the Botswana Railroad Company that doesn't imply any connection with Botswana. People who have abandoned their country don't deserve particular consideration by that country.

Re: Dear Boris
 

DILLIGAF? So I am assuming that you like myself have now abandoned the UK and even though still classed as UK citizens we don't deserve any consideration? I will bear that in mind the next time you complain about stuff in Canada like no culture, architectural designs and how soul less the suburbs in Canada are say compared to Tower Hamlets.

Re: Dear Boris
 

Of course. It's not fair to walk out of a society, cease to contribute, and expect consideration from that society.

Re: Dear Boris
 

Good to know. How about collecting pensions? Are these considered a contribution or an investment?

Re: Dear Boris
 

Neither. Taking money is the opposite of a contribution. I suppose claiming a pension is like turning up in the life of someone you were married to a couple of decades ago and claiming alimony from them.

Re: Dear Boris
 

That would be my ex then.

Re: Dear Boris
 

Even if, through no fault of our own, we are still subject to the whims of the British government?

Re: Dear Boris
 

Aww diddums...

Maybe this'll cheer you up.. :p

Re: Dear Boris
 

How is it the case that people who used to live in the UK are more subject to the whims of the British government than people who never lived there?

Re: Dear Boris
 

Government being in a muddle and applying inconsistent and illogical policies is just government being government. If the policies are inconsistent, illogical, vindictive and cruel then that's just government being Conservative government. No discrimination against people living in Canada is implied.

Re: Dear Boris
 

Definitely. I did think mine was funny though! :p

Re: Dear Boris
 

Yeah, I smiled wryly.

Re: Dear Boris
 

But its ok to expect the govt to care about those who emigrated to the US and Europe?

Speaking as an expat who is paying NI, and but for COVID would now be wrapping things up and returning to the UK permanently,

Re: Dear Boris
 

My commiserations....

Re: Dear Boris
 

No, if people choose to leave then there's no reason for them to be a matter of interest to the government, regardless of where they went. I suppose there's a case that people who went to Europe didn't really leave, they were still in the EU, and they've been especially shafted. I sympathize with that but this government has maltreated so many people that it's difficult to know which victims most deserve support.

Re: Dear Boris
 

Oh poo. Did you bring your return forward then? I thought you were hanging on , a bit stuffed, until Oz Super or something.

We would have been back for a recce & a perm. return mid last year but for Covid. Now I cannot see us financially being able to do that.

True enough. I cannot understand why anyone would think the present UK Govt OK so in that respect we feel glad to have not found ourselves in that pea souper .

Re: Dear Boris
 

:) Fair enough. Canada will likely be added to the green list soon anyway so I don't see what the fuss is about.

Boris, however, seems to be someone who wanted to become Prime Minister, rather than be Prime Minister, given the way he "governs". He seems bored and put upon with it all. He may be reading these forums to see where he can go. Can you imagine his first post?

Re: Dear Boris
 

My partner and I are considering moving to Canada. We have one child and another on the way. I also have other children but I don't know how many.

I'd like to move away from the UK because some fool has been mucking everything up for everyone here.

I'm sure Canada is a good place to raise my kids, though not all of them of course since I don't know where they are, so just these two.

I have some experience of North America so Canada wouldn't come as a complete surprise but I'm looking for suggestions as to where to live. Money is no object but I wouldn't mind a nice job. I've heard there may be a position coming up soon that would be very suitable for me. What is the Sussex Drive neighbourhood like?

Re: Dear Boris
 

Iqaluit, Nunavut is apparently nice this time of year:p

Re: Dear Boris
 

Oh dear, FL. I think it's quite endearing that you think that the UK government ought to give a monkey's about UK citizens that don't live in the UK anymore. It's almost like you've forgotten about Brexit.

Re: Dear Boris
 

Isn't Brexit a demonstration that the UK government also doesn't give a monkey's about UK citizens that do live in the UK?

Re: Dear Boris
 

Indeed it is.

How can Johnson possibly spare any time on such weighty matters as the vaccination status of Brits in Canada when he spends his evenings fretting about the price of wallpaper and impregnating ladies.

Re: Dear Boris
 

That would depend on your personal point of view, I'm sure many people believe that Brexit demonstrates that the UK Govt cares a lot more about UK citizens than filling the fat pockets of euro mp's etc. :p :rofl: