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Old Dec 15th 2015, 5:27 pm
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I saw a story on manufacturing about a candy company who was having financial issues, and bought by a private investment first, who closed the plant down for 1 year, modernized it and then opened it again and its profitable again, granted they went from 400 some employees to 12 employees which likely helps profits.
Yes. I've read of a number of US companies bringing manufacturing back from China, but they're bringing it back to factories which have almost no staff. I'm not exactly sure what magic wand Harper was supposed to wave to prevent companies from either moving their low-skilled work to China, or replacing the workers with machines. Build a new Iron Curtain, I guess, ban robots, and declare himself Great Leader For Life.

But, aside from some specialised and complex devices like modern electronic chips, most manufacturing will be local in twenty years. We won't be sending thousands of people to factories every day to build cars, we'll send a print job to the local 3D printing store, and drive it away when it's done.
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most manufacturing will be local in twenty years. We won't be sending thousands of people to factories every day to build cars, we'll send a print job to the local 3D printing store, and drive it away when it's done.
Any car? Even a 2CV Safari?
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Any car? Even a 2CV Safari?
Dunno. Is it out of copyright?
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Any car? Even a 2CV Safari?
Please put me down for a Ferrari 250 GTO.
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Yes. I've read of a number of US companies bringing manufacturing back from China, but they're bringing it back to factories which have almost no staff. I'm not exactly sure what magic wand Harper was supposed to wave to prevent companies from either moving their low-skilled work to China, or replacing the workers with machines. Build a new Iron Curtain, I guess, ban robots, and declare himself Great Leader For Life.

But, aside from some specialised and complex devices like modern electronic chips, most manufacturing will be local in twenty years. We won't be sending thousands of people to factories every day to build cars, we'll send a print job to the local 3D printing store, and drive it away when it's done.
I've noticed things in the dollar store that you'd expect to have been made in China with a Made in US label and US company address. Seems for some items dollar stores are finding better pricing sourcing from US made products for some things. Also some stuff made in Canada as well.

However the vast majority is still made in China though...
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An electric one of course?
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An electric one of course?
Sacrilege!

I haven't driven an electric vehicle since I last drove a forklift, and I can't imagine any circumstances under which I would want to drive an electric vehicle.
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Sacrilege!

I haven't driven an electric vehicle since I last drove a forklift, and I can't imagine any circumstances under which I would want to drive an electric vehicle.
I'd like to try one, maybe take it bracket racing.
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Sacrilege!

I haven't driven an electric vehicle since I last drove a forklift, and I can't imagine any circumstances under which I would want to drive an electric vehicle.
Not even a golf cart?
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Not even a golf cart?
I have never played golf, and don't anticipate doing so.
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I have never played golf, and don't anticipate doing so.
Then I can continue speaking with you.
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Sacrilege!

I haven't driven an electric vehicle since I last drove a forklift, and I can't imagine any circumstances under which I would want to drive an electric vehicle.
The Tesla's anyhow seem to have decent power, the few I have seen seem to fly up the road just as well as the gas powered cars, granted they don't have the same range though and have to take a pit stop to charge making their drive longer....
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The Tesla's anyhow seem to have decent power, the few I have seen seem to fly up the road just as well as the gas powered cars, granted they don't have the same range though and have to take a pit stop to charge making their drive longer....
A numskull near us has one, and it takes off like a scalded cat at traffic lights, but the idiot driving it won't do more than 25mph on an interstate cloverleaf on-ramp that I can take at 45mph in my dämn truck!
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Canadian dollar on track for 2nd-worst year ever - Business - CBC News

Increase in exports because of the low Loonie apparently has not materialized, but should at some point....

Merchandise trade to the US is down when compared to last year.

"So far this year, a boom in exports has failed to materialize. Merchandise trade exports to the U.S. are actually down from a year ago. That, too, is helping to keep the Canadian dollar low. But market watchers say exports should eventually turn higher."
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Canadian dollar on track for 2nd-worst year ever - Business - CBC News

Increase in exports because of the low Loonie apparently has not materialized, but should at some point....

Merchandise trade to the US is down when compared to last year.

"So far this year, a boom in exports has failed to materialize. Merchandise trade exports to the U.S. are actually down from a year ago. That, too, is helping to keep the Canadian dollar low. But market watchers say exports should eventually turn higher."
In the short-term a falling currency leads to a lower value of exports because the value of the products exported is lower e.g. the value of tar-sand oil falls from $60 to $25, with no increase in volume. Eventually the volume of exports rises, and the value (of more of the lower value items) rises. In practice the value of tar-sand oil will likely fall further as producers will close mines because production is not economic at the current market price for oil.

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