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Former Lancastrian Jan 17th 2012 12:50 pm

Re: Costa Cruise Ship
 
I know its a tragic story but the devil inside of me cant help but think of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSdxqIBfEAw

Apologies if offence caused.

MillieF Jan 17th 2012 6:54 pm

Re: Costa Cruise Ship
 

Originally Posted by Lorna at Vicenza (Post 9848749)
I hope I'm getting you wrongly, but it's not how many Britons might have died, but how many people in total
f.

Sorry, if I was unclear Lorna, I was merely commenting on how parochial reportage can be - the bigger picture of loss gets fogged by the nationalities of the poor souls involved. I agree in spades as to what a bloody rotter this Italian Captain was. This accident is incredible, you sort of sadly expect this sort of stuff from overladen craft in some bits of the world, but not from a pleasure boat off the fragrant Tuscan coast.

DaveLovesDee Jan 18th 2012 12:30 am

Re: Costa Cruise Ship
 

Originally Posted by fletcher m (Post 9848744)
What about he swipe card doors on the cabins, once the power was lost ,they couldn't get out. What a nightmare!

I've never seen a swipe card needed for exiting a hotel room or cruise ship cabin. Swipe cards are only used for entry to rooms in my experience. My experience is also that in the event of a power failure, the locks open automatically.


Originally Posted by GC44 (Post 9848958)
I can understand the uproar about the capitano but what about the sonar operator doing a Stevie Wonder impression or the navigator?

What sonar operator? Military and research vessels often have sonar, but cruise ships do not. I believe you're referring to the depth finder which measures how much depth is between the keel and the bottom directly underneath the vessel. This is monitored from the bridge with the rest of the navigation instruments, and doesn't tell you how close any rocks are around you.

dormy Jan 18th 2012 4:05 am

Re: Costa Cruise Ship
 

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 9850027)
I've never seen a swipe card needed for exiting a hotel room or cruise ship cabin. Swipe cards are only used for entry to rooms in my experience. My experience is also that in the event of a power failure, the locks open automatically.

Each door has its own battery power pack and is individually operated, there is no connection with any central power system, so this is a mute point

Lorna at Vicenza Jan 18th 2012 4:35 am

Re: Costa Cruise Ship
 

Originally Posted by MillieF (Post 9849495)
Sorry, if I was unclear Lorna, I was merely commenting on how parochial reportage can be - the bigger picture of loss gets fogged by the nationalities of the poor souls involved. I agree in spades as to what a bloody rotter this Italian Captain was. This accident is incredible, you sort of sadly expect this sort of stuff from overladen craft in some bits of the world, but not from a pleasure boat off the fragrant Tuscan coast.

Ahhh - sorry. I was following the story in the Italian papers so didn't know that the English press might have bigged up the fact that Brits were on board.

Aviator Jan 18th 2012 8:50 am

Re: Costa Cruise Ship
 
BBC news, the Captain says he was not trying to get into a life raft he fell into it :rofl: He was supervising events from a distance!

magnumpi Jan 18th 2012 9:33 am

Re: Costa Cruise Ship
 

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 9850978)
BBC news, the Captain says he was not trying to get into a life raft he fell into it :rofl: He was supervising events from a distance!

Ha Ha yeh just heard on the news, he slipped and "fell offa da boot" "Do dappa day dappa dee" :huh: That's my best Italiano typed accent.

macadian Jan 18th 2012 9:34 am

Re: Costa Cruise Ship
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 9851082)
Ha Ha yeh just heard on the news, he slipped and "fell offa da boot" "Do dappa day dappa dee" :huh: That's my best Italiano typed accent.

Along with his 1st Officer.....lol

Bali2010 Jan 18th 2012 10:55 am

Re: Costa Cruise Ship
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 9851082)
Ha Ha yeh just heard on the news, he slipped and "fell offa da boot" "Do dappa day dappa dee" :huh: That's my best Italiano typed accent.

Did he trip over the small children & elderly who were waiting politely?:ohmy:

GC44 Jan 18th 2012 11:32 am

Re: Costa Cruise Ship
 
What sonar operator? Military and research vessels often have sonar, but cruise ships do not. I believe you're referring to the depth finder which measures how much depth is between the keel and the bottom directly underneath the vessel. This is monitored from the bridge with the rest of the navigation instruments, and doesn't tell you how close any rocks are around you.[/QUOTE]

And I suppose you would have me believe that there is no "cat of 9 tails" or "powder monkey" on board! Not much chance of the captain being "keel hauled" then?

Flogger Jan 18th 2012 11:43 am

Re: Costa Cruise Ship
 

Originally Posted by Bali2010 (Post 9848837)
that could be enough to stop me ever going on a cruise, right there - but is it really true? - my hotel has swipe cards but only to unlock from the outside - simple lever to unlock from inside. Same risk in fire surely.

Installing access control doors all day long ,I would say no, not true in the slightest.

DaveLovesDee Jan 18th 2012 7:25 pm

Re: Costa Cruise Ship
 

Originally Posted by dormy (Post 9850388)
Each door has its own battery power pack and is individually operated, there is no connection with any central power system, so this is a mute point

Individual power packs for each door would incur a lot of unnecessary weight and complexity when you consider how many doors there are on a ship that size. The swipe reader would be hard-wired into the ship's electrical system.

I've never installed a separate battery pack for each reader in any installation I've done. The only additional wiring is to the master controller/computer usually.

dormy Jan 19th 2012 5:49 am

Re: Costa Cruise Ship
 

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 9851742)
Individual power packs for each door would incur a lot of unnecessary weight and complexity when you consider how many doors there are on a ship that size. The swipe reader would be hard-wired into the ship's electrical system.

I've never installed a separate battery pack for each reader in any installation I've done. The only additional wiring is to the master controller/computer usually.

Strange, having worked the cruise ships for several years, we were always changing batteries on swipe locks, maybe they were trying to keep us busy, who knows, but it was a few years ago now.

DaveLovesDee Jan 19th 2012 8:10 pm

Re: Costa Cruise Ship
 

Originally Posted by dormy (Post 9852729)
Strange, having worked the cruise ships for several years, we were always changing batteries on swipe locks, maybe they were trying to keep us busy, who knows, but it was a few years ago now.

I can only comment on what I've seen, as can you. As you've had to change these batteries, they must have been fitted, though I'm not sure why they're needed. Neiter do I see why one would need a swipe card to exit a room. :confused:

London Mike Jan 19th 2012 10:05 pm

Re: Costa Cruise Ship
 

Originally Posted by fletcher m (Post 9848736)
if you did 20 football field from the shore at Morecambe, you would still be only in 4ft of water...you need to look at your charts. A bit too generalist!

Please explain why a cruise ship would ever enter the waters of Morecambe...?


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