Corona / Vax UK
#16
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As the UK policy is to give the first dose to as many as poss because it only gives a tiny bit extra protection to have both (so most of the 2million won't get called for their second dose for ages), it's not really worth looking at the figure for those who've had both doses. It probably won't increase much in the next couple of months anyway, it's the first doses that are the key figure for the UK.
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Re: Corona / Vax UK
No, the just under 2million is those who've had the first dose. It's 2.5million if you include those who've had both doses.
As the UK policy is to give the first dose to as many as poss because it only gives a tiny bit extra protection to have both (so most of the 2million won't get called for their second dose for ages), it's not really worth looking at the figure for those who've had both doses. It probably won't increase much in the next couple of months anyway, it's the first doses that are the key figure for the UK.
As the UK policy is to give the first dose to as many as poss because it only gives a tiny bit extra protection to have both (so most of the 2million won't get called for their second dose for ages), it's not really worth looking at the figure for those who've had both doses. It probably won't increase much in the next couple of months anyway, it's the first doses that are the key figure for the UK.
#18
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No, the just under 2million is those who've had the first dose. It's 2.33million if you include those who've had both doses.
As the UK policy is to give the first dose to as many as poss because it only gives a tiny bit extra protection to have both (so most of the 2million won't get called for their second dose for ages), it's not really worth looking at the figure for those who've had both doses. It probably won't increase much in the next couple of months anyway, it's the first doses that are the key figure for the UK.
As the UK policy is to give the first dose to as many as poss because it only gives a tiny bit extra protection to have both (so most of the 2million won't get called for their second dose for ages), it's not really worth looking at the figure for those who've had both doses. It probably won't increase much in the next couple of months anyway, it's the first doses that are the key figure for the UK.
#19
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Yes, but given the data from the trials supports it, and the MHRA approved it with a second dose up to 12 weeks later, I can see why they've made that decision. Far better to get 30mill vaccinated with a slightly lower efficiency rate , than 15m with a slightly better rate, particularly as once the first dose takes effect even in the small percentage that get it they have it much more mildly. It does seem to make sense to me……as you say, if it works!
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Listening to the BBC and sounds like the UK is well ahead in vaccines compared to US and Canada.
#23
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There is quite a bit of data on it lasting well beyond the 4 weeks from the trials, which actually had a gap of 4-26 weeks between doses. I've not seen what Dr Fauci has said, but the MHRA have approved it for use with the gap.
#25
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Yes, I'm not disagreeing the gap strategy, just noting that there's still some differing opinions; it does seem better to get the the vaccine out there ASAP.
#26
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Unfortunately it's one of those things where a crystal ball would be very helpful! I guess all the government can do is make the most educated decision with the data they've got to try and get as many people protected as quickly as possible. That decision could turn out to be the wrong one in time, but I really hope not.
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Yes, but given the data from the trials supports it, and the MHRA approved it with a second dose up to 12 weeks later, I can see why they've made that decision. Far better to get 30mill vaccinated with a slightly lower efficiency rate , than 15m with a slightly better rate, particularly as once the first dose takes effect even in the small percentage that get it they have it much more mildly. It does seem to make sense to me……as you say, if it works!
#29
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Father 86 got a text on Dec 22nd - respond by 3pm to get a spot at a vax clinic. Silly old bugger doesn't look at his phone that often so didn't respond until 1pm by which time it was too late as all spots were filled. Turns out this was a one off clinic at a local hospital and he now has to wait for the GP surgery to schedule their own clinics. He's heard nothing yet. Living in semi-rural Norfolk he and my mum are hopefully fairly well shielded but my sisters and I will breath a little easier when he gets it. And hopefully without the need to travel to a vaccine supercentre - Stevenage being the nearest which is a 4 hr round trip.
#30
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This says that in the trials 'because of logistical constraints, the interval between dose 1 and dose 2 ranged from 4 to 26 weeks'. It also says 'Exploratory analyses showed that increased immunogenicity was associated with a longer dose interval (see Immunogenicity Table 3). Efficacy is currently demonstrated with more certainty for dose intervals from 8 to 12 weeks. Data for intervals longer than 12 weeks are limited.', which to my layperson's reading, says that they did test a longer dose interval in the trials than 4 weeks.
I may well be reading it wrong though, but the news has also said the longer interval has been approved with data to back up the decision, so I really hope that's true.