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Old Oct 30th 2009, 10:07 pm
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just wondered if anyone knew the answer to this? I want to print part of a Kipling poem in an advert I am putting in a magazine. Am I allowed to do this? Is it in the public domain?
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Originally Posted by Louisecooke
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just wondered "if" anyone knew the answer to this? I want to print part of a Kipling poem in an advert I am putting in a magazine. Am I allowed to do this? Is it in the public domain?

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Bit of a grey area."Quotes" are sometimes ok, covered by fair usage I think, but if it's for an ad - hard to say.

Give this lot a quick email -

The Kipling Society,
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thanks for that, it's actually for an obit, not really an ad as such, so hopefully will be OK. And no it wasn't 'If'
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Originally Posted by Louisecooke
thanks for that, it's actually for an obit, not really an ad as such, so hopefully will be OK. And no it wasn't 'If'
If it's just appearing the once and you credit Kipling then I can't see anyone suing over it.
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If it's just appearing the once and you credit Kipling then I can't see anyone suing over it.
Especially as it's clearly not for any commercial gain.
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Originally Posted by Louisecooke
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just wondered if anyone knew the answer to this? I want to print part of a Kipling poem in an advert I am putting in a magazine. Am I allowed to do this? Is it in the public domain?
When did he die? I can't be bothered to look that up, copyright only survives for a certain period after the deceased death. That's the reason that Shakespeare and all those dead composers are everywhere.
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I read 'Kipling ... advert' quickly and thought this would be a thread about the apple pies. Way to disappoint me.

Wikipedia says that Kipling died in 1936. And everything on Wikipedia is true.

Copyright varies from one place to another, so an accurate answer will depend on where you intend to publish.

In Canada, copyright is life plus 50 years, so Kipling's copyrights expired at the end of 1986. In the UK, Kipling's copyrights might have been revived by the 1995 Regulations, but would in any event have expired again at the end of 2006.

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Thank you everyone, I guess I am safe then
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I received a lovely pen and ink Christmas card one year with a man with a log on his shoulder in front of a fire. The next year I scanned it in and added our company name down the log - we do flooring and I thought it could look like a roll of carpet. I even sent it back to the woman who sent it to me (without realising) only for her to call me and tell me that I had broken copyright laws! It was an original drawing of her fathers who was a well known artist who had exhibited at the Royal Academy etc. Fortunately she thought it was hilarious and said that her father would of loved it!

Did I feel stupid or what
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In the UK, copyright was 80 years after the death of the author. However, if you are quoting for non-commercial purposes and citing the source (and it's not going to be on every billboard in town) then you should be covered.
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In the UK, copyright was 80 years after the death of the author. However, if you are quoting for non-commercial purposes and citing the source (and it's not going to be on every billboard in town) then you should be covered.
That's interesting to know - although I don't think he had been dead as long as that. Would of been fine if I hadn't sent it to her - she said she dinned out on the story so I think I was very lucky!
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The easy way to figure out if something is in copyright or not is to ask, was it published and author died before Steamboat Willy was made, or after. If before then it's fine, if after then it's in copyright. Copyright laws always get revised when Steamboat Willy is due to become copyright free.
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before Steamboat Willy was made, or after.
I understand what you are saying but who was Steamboat Willy! And why are all copyright cases measured against him? (your answer needs to be less than 500 words 12 point and not include pictures...)
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I understand what you are saying but who was Steamboat Willy! And why are all copyright cases measured against him? (your answer needs to be less than 500 words 12 point and not include pictures...)
Steam Boat Willy was the first Disney cartoon released starring Mickey Mouse. Disney don't want to lose the copyright.

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