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Butch Cassidy Jun 19th 2009 7:00 am

Re: Coping with cats
 

Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 7681231)
trapped or safe? "Trapped" applies a negative value to the act of keeping the cat in.

Does a domestic cat have "right" to be outside?

Now a wild cat - a lynx or bobcat etc, absolutely they have a "right" to be in the wild, in that it is natural for them to be in nature. It is not natural for a domestic cat to be outdoors in Canada - it's not it's natural stomping ground, it has been introduced, and plays no part in the natural balance! They are fed, treated by the vet, have no nutrition need to hunt, and only do so for pleasure, and they kill innocent, nay naive little chicks and chickadees - feathered waifs, who have struggled to migrate, only to be met by this:

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/e...5/ugly-cat.jpg.

OK

let me throw these 'ideas' at you

Evolution

Natural selection

Survival of the fittest

Based on your belief that the domestic cat has 'no right' to be outside due to being an 'introduced' species, you as a white european have no more right to roam the streets (or prairies or mountains) of a country to which you were 'introduced'.

iaink Jun 19th 2009 7:15 am

Re: Coping with cats
 

Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 7681231)
trapped or safe? "Trapped" applies a negative value to the act of keeping the cat in.

My brother had one of those cheesy Athena posters when I was a kid.


"A ship in harbour is safe, but that is not what ships are for"


I prefer to give my cats the option of a full and happy life doing cat things inside and out, even if that risks interaction with cars, dogs and intollerant neighbours and a potentially shorter life span as a result. I suppose I could keep them safe and sound inside to live out a confined life to the ripe old age of 20+, but that doesnt seem fair to them, given their particular personalities.

Atlantic Xpat Jun 19th 2009 7:22 am

Re: Coping with cats
 
I'm very much of the school of thought that it is crueller to keep a cat indoors all the time - clawed or declawed. Ours roam the night as silent killers. Yet the birds still chirp, the voles still vole, rabbits still hop and the minor amount of predation that occurs does not seem to be tipping the whole ecosystem out of balance.

triumphguy Jun 19th 2009 8:01 am

Re: Coping with cats
 
It's not just me! (Sorry for the long quote: but I don't think many people read links:)

HInterland Whos Who says:

<Edited to comply with rule 7...please read the link.>
http://www.hww.ca/hww2.asp?id=151


And the Audubon society says:


Cats Indoors!

http://www.goldengateaudubon.org/htm...atsindoors.htm

Some other links:
http://http://www.abcbirds.org/abcpr.../predation.pdf

http://veggierevolution.blogspot.com...dation-of.html

fledermaus Jun 19th 2009 8:05 am

Re: Coping with cats
 

Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 7681231)
trapped or safe? "Trapped" applies a negative value to the act of keeping the cat in.

Does a domestic cat have "right" to be outside?

Now a wild cat - a lynx or bobcat etc, absolutely they have a "right" to be in the wild, in that it is natural for them to be in nature. It is not natural for a domestic cat to be outdoors in Canada - it's not it's natural stomping ground, it has been introduced, and plays no part in the natural balance! They are fed, treated by the vet, have no nutrition need to hunt, and only do so for pleasure, and they kill innocent, nay naive little chicks and chickadees - feathered waifs, who have struggled to migrate, only to be met by this:

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/e...5/ugly-cat.jpg.

The bathos is wonderful. :rofl: And now who is anthropomorphing, innocent and naive, :lol:

My cats prefer chipmunks as a snack. They eat what they catch, apart from the intestines and the head. Picky creatures.

Flogger Jun 19th 2009 12:24 pm

Re: Coping with cats
 
My dog has slaughted the odd rat and pigeon.Unsure whether to inprison,or just blast with neighbours shotgun.
Triumph Guy what would you suggest?

Thinking though.On the plus side,he does chase cats.So would that balance things out.Give him a second chance,like?

triumphguy Jun 19th 2009 1:58 pm

Re: Coping with cats
 
As long as he chases cats he's fine with me!;) Besides, not many dogs kill song birds. Pigeons are an introduced pest anyway!

BTW which frakken bright sparks from Europe thought it was a cool idea to bring in Sparrows, Starlings, Pigeons, and dandelions!!!!

triumphguy Jun 19th 2009 2:00 pm

Re: Coping with cats
 

Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy (Post 7681242)
OK
you as a white european have no more right to roam the streets (or prairies or mountains) of a country to which you were 'introduced'.

What makes you assume I'm white?:confused:

Novocastrian Jun 19th 2009 2:07 pm

Re: Coping with cats
 

Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 7682022)
What makes you assume I'm white?:confused:

You drive a motorbike, of course.

triumphguy Jun 19th 2009 2:08 pm

Re: Coping with cats
 
Good catch! I was hoping to see if Butch has a PC pucker reaction.:)

Novocastrian Jun 19th 2009 2:14 pm

Re: Coping with cats
 

Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 7682035)
Good catch! I was hoping to see if Butch has a PC pucker reaction.:)

Just lucky. I'm sure there are several black or brown Triumph riders on here who are also fanatical about outdoor cats.

triumphguy Jun 19th 2009 2:17 pm

Re: Coping with cats
 
fanatical in terms of keeping, shooting, breeding or ...blink:

Novocastrian Jun 19th 2009 2:25 pm

Re: Coping with cats
 

Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 7682047)
fanatical in terms of keeping, shooting, breeding or ...blink:

blink, I should think.

dbd33 Jun 19th 2009 3:34 pm

Re: Coping with cats
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 7682032)
You drive a motorbike, of course.

Today on the 4OHsomething I was enjoying the sun at a better than 100mph when a bike undertook me, splitting the lane. "My word" I thought, you can't do that here. Perched on the bike was a woman with the hair of Lady Gaga, only really attached, as it streamed behind the bike. Just as I was noticing her lack of helmet I looked at the driver, he was in shorts, it took me a moment to get beyond the ballsiness of bare legs at 120mph between Canadian drivers but then I clocked the legs being brown. So, if it's a Ducatti, it might be multicultural.

Butch Cassidy Jun 19th 2009 3:52 pm

Re: Coping with cats
 

Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 7682022)
What makes you assume I'm white?:confused:

No assumption, I've seen photos. :p


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