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Re: Climate change and the Alberta Floods
Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10773305)
"A 2006 Provincial Flood Mitigation Report even recommended that the province forbid the selling of flood plains to developers. But the one-party state deep sixed the report for five years and did not make it public until 2012".
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Re: Climate change and the Alberta Floods
Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10773305)
There is a sad irony in this happening in the centre of the tar patch:
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Re: Climate change and the Alberta Floods
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10773392)
So, they got what they deserved, did they?
When I moved here it wasn't long after the last flood and the first thing I did was check the floodplain map. I doubt much will happen from a legal standpoint but maybe there will be a by-law that curtails redevelopment in the floodplain, or at least makes it clear that you get a notification that you can't get insurance and the govt. isn't going to bail you out if there is a flood. Although after this you would think most people would figure it out for themselves. Also I suspect something is going to be done about Glenmore Dam, seeing as this is the second time in eight years it has been over topped. I can't see it changing attitudes towards climate change though, there wouldn't be an Alberta without the oil and gas industry. |
Re: Climate change and the Alberta Floods
Originally Posted by Steve_
(Post 10774365)
I can't see it changing attitudes towards climate change though, there wouldn't be an Alberta without the oil and gas industry.
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Re: Climate change and the Alberta Floods
Originally Posted by Steve_
(Post 10774353)
Maybe so but they did follow the report recommendations, Environment Alberta has implemented them.
And this is the report: http://www.aema.alberta.ca/images/Ne...ion_Report.pdf Large municipalities with significant amounts of riverside development oppose this as it halts development in very high value areas. This development however is not safe, and the financial consequences will be borne by the provincial DRP. |
Re: Climate change and the Alberta Floods
Originally Posted by rwin
(Post 10774359)
Last time I was in Vancouver I didn't see a lot of people riding their bikes along the freeway.
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Re: Climate change and the Alberta Floods
Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10774436)
of course not, it's dangerous. We have bike paths for that :thumbup:
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Re: Climate change and the Alberta Floods
Originally Posted by rwin
(Post 10774519)
I think you know what I mean.
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Re: Climate change and the Alberta Floods
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10773392)
So, they got what they deserved, did they?
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Re: Climate change and the Alberta Floods
Originally Posted by gryphea
(Post 10774249)
I believe in man-made climate change. I also think that its tenuous to link this event to climate change. Why? Well for starters its happened before. Secondly I think the climate change predictions make for a drier alberta with reduced summer river flows.
Albertans are suffering big time; sure they deplete natural resources but I don't see BC as angels in all this; they are still developing fossil fuels (quintette just got a permit to take most of a mountain away) and devastate huge tracts of land with resource development, subsequent tailings etc. Sure some Albertans lived in a flood zone but that's like not having sympathy if a big quake struck Vancouver (which it will) |
Re: Climate change and the Alberta Floods
Some photos of the cleanup effort. You can tell by looking at these people that they aren't regular people. They deserve the flood because they live in Alberta:
http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/06/25...ain-re-opening |
Re: Climate change and the Alberta Floods
Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10774545)
According to talkback yesterday, that was the popular theme. You can't blame BCers for being angry.
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Re: Climate change and the Alberta Floods
Originally Posted by gryphea
(Post 10774249)
I believe in man-made climate change. I also think that its tenuous to link this event to climate change. Why? Well for starters its happened before. Secondly I think the climate change predictions make for a drier alberta with reduced summer river flows.
Albertans are suffering big time; sure they deplete natural resources but I don't see BC as angels in all this; they are still developing fossil fuels (quintette just got a permit to take most of a mountain away) and devastate huge tracts of land with resource development, subsequent tailings etc. Sure some Albertans lived in a flood zone but that's like not having sympathy if a big quake struck Vancouver (which it will) BC is happy to encourage hydraulic frackuring to exploit gas reserves with the consequential risk of earthquakes and water quality. And the mining that goes on in BC .......... Out of sight out of mind as far as the luvvies in Victoria are concerned. |
Re: Climate change and the Alberta Floods
ExKiwilass, overall, which do you believe causes the most environmental damage:
(1) the Albertan oilsands development, or (2) the North American over-consumerist lifestyle? |
Re: Climate change and the Alberta Floods
Originally Posted by jimf
(Post 10774592)
There's certainly nothing to suggest that the flooding taking place now is in any way unusual or connected to any anthopogenic climate change. The biggest floods in Calgary occured over 120 years ago.
BC is happy to encourage hydraulic frackuring to exploit gas reserves with the consequential risk of earthquakes and water quality. And the mining that goes on in BC .......... Out of sight out of mind as far as the luvvies in Victoria are concerned. |
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