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Bali2010 Jan 19th 2010 7:34 am

Re: Chav Britain: Another reason to move to Canada
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 8263458)
Alan2005 and Oink... the Margo & Jerry Leadbetter of BE. :rofl:

:lol:

so who are the Tom & Barbara of BE?

jimmydean Jan 19th 2010 7:43 am

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Worryingly whilst trawling the online newspaper of the place I intend moving to:

maybe not a chav but ..........

http://www.trurodaily.com/index.cfm?sid=319454&sc=518

iaink Jan 19th 2010 7:51 am

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Originally Posted by jimmydean (Post 8263595)
Worryingly whilst trawling the online newspaper of the place I intend moving to:

maybe not a chav but ..........

http://www.trurodaily.com/index.cfm?sid=319454&sc=518

Surely only a real concern if you are a cat:sneaky::eek: There are nutters the world over.


Regarding the original Sun report of the kid with the cigarette...yes, OK, its stupid, but it wasnt lit, its just a picture!

Ive got pictures of at least one of my kids as a baby on the couch with the remote control and an empty beer bottle....obviously the kid didnt drink it, its just a funny picture to torment them with when they are teenagers.

Why the fuss? I'd be more concerned about the nanny mindset meddling in other peoples business than about the chavyness of it all.

msi64 Jan 19th 2010 7:55 am

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Originally Posted by Auld Yin (Post 8263550)
A country that still gives you free health care, will give you a pension in your old age. Gives you freedom and Democracy for all.

It may be free for those welfare spongers who have never paid taxes, but for the majority of hard working Brits who pay taxes, it certainly is not free.

We pay a portion to NHS AND pensions but its still virtually free. yes we have chavs now, we have also had Skinheads/football hooligans/Rockers all of them the scourge of society. Life will fall apart because of these people according to the SUN/MAIL/MIRROR (Choose your rag)
If these papers are to believed its all BB and underage sex, jordan and the latest beckham pics.

Are you going to take your pension from this country then??? of course you are because you deserve it. Take a look at how people lose thier homes and go bankrupt in the US because they get cancer and cant pay hospital bills. or the homeless that freeze to death in Chicago and other places.

Yes the benefit system is messed up, but can you really blame people for milking a system thats useless??? Its at either end of the scale, Fat cats who take million pound bonuses whislt others struggle.
Britain has problems like every where else and I dont think we are any worse, if anything its a damn sight better.

Alan2005 Jan 19th 2010 8:01 am

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Originally Posted by msi64 (Post 8263623)
We pay a portion to NHS AND pensions but its still virtually free. yes we have chavs now, we have also had Skinheads/football hooligans/Rockers all of them the scourge of society. Life will fall apart because of these people according to the SUN/MAIL/MIRROR (Choose your rag)
If these papers are to believed its all BB and underage sex, jordan and the latest beckham pics.

Are you going to take your pension from this country then??? of course you are because you deserve it. Take a look at how people lose thier homes and go bankrupt in the US because they get cancer and cant pay hospital bills. or the homeless that freeze to death in Chicago and other places.

Yes the benefit system is messed up, but can you really blame people for milking a system thats useless??? Its at either end of the scale, Fat cats who take million pound bonuses whislt others struggle.
Britain has problems like every where else and I dont think we are any worse, if anything its a damn sight better.

Virtually free? No the money comes from hard working british families who are being constantly squeezed so that chavs and benefits scroungers can buy fags, scratch cards and sky tv. It's this kind of disgraceful situation that led me leave the crap-hole that the UK has become.

msi64 Jan 19th 2010 8:06 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8263633)
Virtually free? No the money comes from hard working british families who are being constantly squeezed so that chavs and benefits scroungers can buy fags, scratch cards and sky tv. It's this kind of disgraceful situation that led me leave the crap-hole that the UK has become.

Are you still paying into the system???? If not I guess you will let the tax office know that you dont need all your pension. And of course you wouldnt come back to the UK to use the NHS at anytime will you.
Well done for leaving this crap hole. some of us will keep peddling for now.

And I have no problems with people emigrating, Im going to do it myself, but at least stand up for the country that you come from.

Auld Yin Jan 19th 2010 8:21 am

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Originally Posted by msi64 (Post 8263651)
Are you still paying into the system???? If not I guess you will let the tax office know that you dont need all your pension. And of course you wouldnt come back to the UK to use the NHS at anytime will you.
Well done for leaving this crap hole. some of us will keep peddling for now.

And I have no problems with people emigrating, Im going to do it myself, but at least stand up for the country that you come from.

Are you just being obtuse here? You claimed that the NHS and Government Pensions are free. THEY ARE NOT FREE!!!!! They are paid for out of taxes of some kind. Your other comments have nothing to do with refuting this.

Butch Cassidy Jan 19th 2010 8:25 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8263303)
If its not one thing, it's another. Britain as country is morally imploding these days. The extent and blatancy of chav behavior in Britain is simply appalling.

So, in an effort to help fellow Brits who may be dithering about leaving the UK, post your chav stories here and it might help those to make up their minds. Depending on the response, we might make this a wiki article.

Chav baby smokes

Menal crooliy init, a meen if ya gona gif im a fag a lees lied it

msi64 Jan 19th 2010 8:32 am

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Originally Posted by Auld Yin (Post 8263700)
Are you just being obtuse here? You claimed that the NHS and Government Pensions are free. THEY ARE NOT FREE!!!!! They are paid for out of taxes of some kind. Your other comments have nothing to do with refuting this.

What you pay in NI wouldnt cover your health bills if you had cancer or a long term illness, thats what Im trying to get over to you!!!

You get more out of it than you pay in, its that simple.
Its free because you dont pay to go see the doctor or make pay to go see the Emergency room. You dont pay for the plaster if your leg gets broken, or cancer drugs when your in the hospital or morphine if your in an RTA.

This isnt being obtuse its just Im a realist rather than being a worrymonger all the time.

Alan2005 Jan 19th 2010 8:40 am

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Originally Posted by msi64 (Post 8263734)
What you pay in NI wouldnt cover your health bills if you had cancer or a long term illness, thats what Im trying to get over to you!!!

You get more out of it than you pay in, its that simple.
Its free because you dont pay to go see the doctor or make pay to go see the Emergency room. You dont pay for the plaster if your leg gets broken, or cancer drugs when your in the hospital or morphine if your in an RTA.

This isnt being obtuse its just Im a realist rather than being a worrymonger all the time.

It's funded by taxation. I for one got sick of my taxes funding healthcare for some chav on a 60 a day habit who never paid into the system. It's an outrage, and again one of the reasons I left.

msi64 Jan 19th 2010 8:44 am

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Exactly what Im talking about, its seeing the bad side. there is a lot of good in the UK but you just want to see the down side of it all!!!!

And its partly funded by Taxation!!

bodgerx Jan 19th 2010 8:47 am

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8263356)
According to the canadian council on social development the cost of raising a child to age one is $10k, and the total to age 16 is about $166k...

No wonder I'm brassic. $6k would be a drop in the bucket at best.

Must be different here in the UK. We reckon we have made a profit on our first child to year one if you add up all the tax re-bates.

micknev Jan 19th 2010 8:54 am

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Originally Posted by msi64 (Post 8263772)
Exactly what Im talking about, its seeing the bad side. there is a lot of good in the UK but you just want to see the down side of it all!!!!

And its partly funded by Taxation!!

What good is in this hole called,Engerland?
Its a spent country,last decent person out please switch the lights out,and securely lock the door keeping the scum in ...........

canadian_critic Jan 19th 2010 9:03 am

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Come on guys. Many of the examples here are taken out of The Sun newspaper. Since when did The Sun epitomize British life. The Sunday Sport is a different story, but The Sun? I know this thread is a little stacked to knock Britain from it's title although look at mine! But I have fond memories of Britain and while I agree there is widespread degradation in society, I think it's wider spread than people think.

Here in Vancouver it's not as bad in some ways. But I live in one of the nicer and pricier parts and there's always trainers hanging from overhead cables and graffiti on people's garage door including my own. Canada doesn't yet have such a label for it, but it's in the mail. Thankfully it's Canada post so they still have some time. Look at gang warfare in recent years. An American was citing gang and gun crimes in Britain to me once as a retort to my comments about same in US. But i'm getting it on my doorstep here. Never like that in Britain but then it was all fields then.

fledermaus Jan 19th 2010 9:11 am

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I can't quite decide who is being serious here and who isn't.

Hey ho.

The photo could have earned $10,000 on Funniest Videos if it had been an American or Canadian baby, doncha think??

Neil52 Jan 19th 2010 9:20 am

Re: Chav Britain: Another reason to move to Canada
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8263303)
If its not one thing, it's another. Britain as country is morally imploding these days. The extent and blatancy of chav behavior in Britain is simply appalling.

So, in an effort to help fellow Brits who may be dithering about leaving the UK, post your chav stories here and it might help those to make up their minds. Depending on the response, we might make this a wiki article.

Chav baby smokes

Canadian youths welcoming passing boats :lol:


Youths today are the same all over the world I am afraid, just as many Bogans in Australia as in the UK in my time in both Countries and i have heard Canada is no better with its youth.

http://208.106.181.133/_media/imgs/a...da-protest.jpg

Almost Canadian Jan 19th 2010 9:23 am

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Originally Posted by msi64 (Post 8263734)
What you pay in NI wouldnt cover your health bills if you had cancer or a long term illness, thats what Im trying to get over to you!!!

You get more out of it than you pay in, its that simple.
Its free because you dont pay to go see the doctor or make pay to go see the Emergency room. You dont pay for the plaster if your leg gets broken, or cancer drugs when your in the hospital or morphine if your in an RTA.

This isnt being obtuse its just Im a realist rather than being a worrymonger all the time.

So unless the UK is being funded by corporations (who said they were all bad), exactly how are they being funded?

I accept the Blair and his ilk totally screwed up the financial legacy that the previous government provided them with and the deficit will be felt for the next generation or 12, but, when the government ran relatively balanced budgets, how were such items paid for?

Lord Vader Jan 19th 2010 9:25 am

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Sounds like the shallow end of the gene pool is prospering in the UK. Better off to embrace them and invite them in "for a cuppa".

Alan2005 Jan 19th 2010 9:33 am

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Originally Posted by micknev (Post 8263797)
What good is in this hole called,Engerland?
Its a spent country,last decent person out please switch the lights out,and securely lock the door keeping the scum in ...........

I couldn't agree more. The place is infested with scrunchy wearing kappa slappers and rat boy criminals who when they get caught get sent on spanish holidays rather than doing hard time. It's scandalous, and one of the reasons why I left.

Novocastrian Jan 19th 2010 10:04 am

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Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 8263855)
I can't quite decide who is being serious here and who isn't.

Hey ho.

I can tell without any difficulty at all. :rofl:

Neil52 Jan 19th 2010 10:13 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8263935)
I couldn't agree more. The place is infested with scrunchy wearing kappa slappers and rat boy criminals

Are we talking Oz Canada or UK now.:huh: I have live in Oz and it is just as bad as the UK, Cannot speak for Canada though .

spartacus Jan 19th 2010 10:15 am

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Sterilisation's too good for 'em!

Sally Redux Jan 19th 2010 10:17 am

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Originally Posted by Neil52 (Post 8264043)
Are we talking Oz Canada or UK now.:huh: I have live in Oz and it is just as bad as the UK, Cannot speak for Canada though .

Oh no, where can a person move to and say, "Last one out turn off the lights" then??

Devil Girl Jan 19th 2010 10:21 am

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Originally Posted by simonfiction (Post 8263401)
Couldn't agree more with this. I remember reading once about all the articles that the Daily Mail print that turn out to be complete lies, it was pretty incredible and these were the sort of articles that ruin lives. I never trust any red tops or the Daily Mail for news. It's complete sensationalism. The front page headlines are normally selected from - a) Maddy b) Princess Di or c) Immigrants, followed by a photo of a middle classed missing white blonde girl to make you feel warm and fuzzy and something to relate to, next to a picture of crazy looking, evil bearded Muslim to make sure you couldn't feel any more worlds apart.

:rofl: that is so very true. My mum and dad buy the Daily hate mail and they get taken in by their sensationalist journalism :o

Lord Vader Jan 19th 2010 10:25 am

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Setting the Chav's aside for a moment, what does everyone think about my favorite ex pat? Well, he is in the Uk now but lived in Canada for a few years. http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell

Alan2005 Jan 19th 2010 10:45 am

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Originally Posted by Lord Vader (Post 8264085)
Setting the Chav's aside for a moment, what does everyone think about my favorite ex pat? Well, he is in the Uk now but lived in Canada for a few years. http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell

I listened to his anti-religious rant. He's just an intolerant atheist bigot who will burn in hell when the time comes. The sort that would feel right at home in the UK right now. It's a profanation and one of the reasons I left.

fledermaus Jan 19th 2010 10:49 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8264022)
I can tell without any difficulty at all. :rofl:

You is much smarter than wot I is tho, even though you still ave to go to skuull every day and I is done wiv it.

Oink Jan 19th 2010 11:01 am

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Here we go again. :thumbdown:

Teenage A Level student murdered

Mistress Miggins Jan 19th 2010 11:34 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8264141)
I listened to his anti-religious rant. He's just an intolerant atheist bigot who will burn in hell when the time comes. The sort that would feel right at home in the UK right now. It's a profanation and one of the reasons I left.

Burn in hell when the time comes, wow, you are just really fueling the fire with that mouthful there, pardon the pun. My goodness.

By the way, I had a Canadian girl today doing an ecomap in one of the tutorials I was giving. It's basically a family tree. She was just wondering how to portray the fact that her grandfather married his own sister. Yep, go figure. So lets not assume that behaviour outside the social constructs of what is acceptable in the UK doesn't arise here.

Burn in hell my arse.

An alarmed,

Mrs M x

Auld Yin Jan 19th 2010 11:41 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8264178)
Here we go again. :thumbdown:

Teenage A Level student murdered

I'm sorry, but what's this murder got to do with chavs? From what I read there is no indication, as yet, that chav behaviour is involved. It's a sad, disturbing situation but the murderer could well be a 45 year old man with a wife and family.

Oink Jan 19th 2010 11:53 am

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Originally Posted by Auld Yin (Post 8264273)
I'm sorry, but what's this murder got to do with chavs? From what I read there is no indication, as yet, that chav behaviour is involved. It's a sad, disturbing situation but the murderer could well be a 45 year old man with a wife and family.

It might not be chav related but its just another indication of how bad things have gotten. It really sad because the UK of my childhood was nice, but everyone just seems out for themselves and very quick to take offense and attack.

Mistress Miggins Jan 19th 2010 12:14 pm

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I get your point fully, but do think that things can be pretty rough here too. This is such an old theme for a thread, Canada has it's issues. The UK seems to have experienced a steady decline that's highly publicised due to the 24 hour news culture we live in, how long this decline has been going on for would be hard to say. I believe it would certainly appear that more innocent people appearing to be going about their business are meeting horrible ends in the UK and am aware of two youth based riots in my previous home town that have happened in the last six months in public places with large groups of kids trying attack each other. Ipswich was certainly never that bad when I was a kid.

I think it's all horribly depressing wherever you look at. But I just concentrate on our little community here in Lethbridge and overall, yes it's much better crime wise than my UK hometown. Although the olympic torch barer (?) that was at work yesterday, was as pissed as a royal fart lol! :eek:

Mrs M x

Jingsamichty Jan 19th 2010 12:17 pm

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Was Kes a chav?

Novocastrian Jan 19th 2010 12:21 pm

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Originally Posted by Mistress Miggins (Post 8264364)
This is such an old theme for a thread,

Mrs M x

Has it occurred to you Mrs M., that that is exactly why Oink started it.

He's obviously bored today but has inadvertently raised the question as to whether Daily Mail journos are really disaffected intellectuals raised on a diet of postmodernism and econometrics?

Oink Jan 19th 2010 12:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 8264367)
Was Kes a chav?

They weren't invented in those days.

Jingsamichty Jan 19th 2010 12:25 pm

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8264380)
They weren't invented in those days.

But they were happy.

Butch Cassidy Jan 19th 2010 12:33 pm

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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 8264386)
But they were happy.

an' poower

simonfiction Jan 19th 2010 12:35 pm

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This whole thread just makes me think of this song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1NyWbhCxZE

bsmith Jan 19th 2010 1:12 pm

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Originally Posted by simonfiction (Post 8264424)
This whole thread just makes me think of this song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1NyWbhCxZE

...for anyone who fancies a bit of live campfire punkrock:

Frank Turner - 26th January @ The Horseshoe Tavern, Toronto, ON, Canada (free solo show)
Frank Turner - 27th January @ The Dakota Tavern, Toronto, ON, Canada
Frank Turner - 28th January @ Chez Baptiste Sur Masson, Montreal, QC, Canada


canglish Jan 19th 2010 1:26 pm

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Just read this thread...just further cements my decision to move out to Canada! Especially since I was born and raised in chav central...Basildon!! :thumbup:


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