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Guardian too. :(

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Not sure how to feel about this.

On the one hand people are commenting that he was an overpaid loutish footballer who despite numerous attempts keeps going back to the bottle so stuff him

then on the other

the guy is a human being with a problem and needs help.

Despite this if you don't fully accept you have a problem (which I don't reckon he does or any one of the numerous 'save Gazza' attempts would have worked).

I hope he doesn't die, is all I can deduce from this - and not because he isn't on my list.

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I don't remember the details but didn't this all start after he beat his wife up?

I wonder if he's ever considered emigrating. I'm sure if he's away from all his geordie mates, the British press and public then he might have a good chance of self-destruction in privacy (I mean where we don't have to take part in the spectacle of his decline).... or not.

If I were him, I'd move to a nice little island somewhere hot and try to forget the past.

Re: Celebrity Croakers Thread 2013
 

RIP Reg Presley. Died today from cancer.

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Would like to drop Zsa Zsa for Muhammed Ali. Rumour is he will be up for a rematch with Henry Cooper any time soon!

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Are deathbed substitutions allowed?

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I don't think they should be. It's a bit cheeky innit.

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Why would Stuart Hall consider taking his own life if he's innocent?

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I suspect because, as posts on this board shows, innocence has little to do with how people view one's guilt. Just ask Michael Jackson or O.J. Simpson.

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Stuart Hall isn't (or wasn't if he's topped himself) black.

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Are you suggesting that people decided upon their guilt depending upon racial issues?

If you are, that's the first time I have heard such an argument used in relation to Jackson. I believed most viewed his innocence or guilt upon their view of the Bashir interview or blamed his acquittal upon his status as a celebrity

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Then you've certainly heard the argument as regards Simpson. You're doubtless aware that, at the time of his trial, black Americans mostly thought him not guilty while Americans thought him guilty. I imagine that's even more the case now.

I do think that when it comes to celebrity crime, perception of guilt is hugely influenced by the race of the accused.

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For OJ his colour probably had something to do with it. For Jackson, I doubt it. The assumption of guilt on being accused of being a peado crosses race boundaries.

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In a way, I suppose I'm glad Hall is not on my list. If he does cop it this year, sure, seems like an easy 16 points. But they'd be tarnished points; suicidal nonce points.

I really don't think I'd be very happy if my score had been subsidised by points of this nature.

Just a thought: can we get double points for correctly guessing where the celeb goes (based on circumstances of death)? Heaven, hell, revenant, reincarnated?