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luvmykids Dec 8th 2009 3:30 am

Car insurance
 
We got our car insurance through a broker here back in July. We gave copies of our no claims etc and got a deal through AXA. Suddenly at the end of September we were told that our no claims did not count in Canada as we had out of North America driving experience, so we have to pay full premium :eek:

Our broker said he'd try and find someone else who could insure us, but has since come back and said he can't find anyone.

We are in New Brunswick, is this just a provincial issue or a Canada wide one? What companies have you got insurance from and have they honored your no claims? We have coming on to ten years so we are reluctant to let it slip away!

Any recommendation of a good insurance company would be good as we are paying over $150 per month in car insurance at the moment.

Thanks :)

iaink Dec 8th 2009 4:01 am

Re: Car insurance
 
$150 a month is not the worst cost I've seen.

Back when it was still important to me Pilot Insurance were prepared to take my UK record into account. They operate through independent brokers. Not sure if they are only operating in Ontario or not.

dbd33 Dec 8th 2009 4:16 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8156538)
$150 a month is not the worst cost I've seen.

Seems like a bargain, even if it's per car.

Atlantic Xpat Dec 8th 2009 4:29 am

Re: Car insurance
 
Try Johnson Insurance. I think they cover NB.

I renewed our insurance today. With 5 years claim free history in Canada (but unfortunately a claim in the UK in the year I left) it will cost us $2100 to insure a car, a truck and an ATV for the year. $150 a month would be lovely in comparison!

dbd33 Dec 8th 2009 5:16 am

Re: Car insurance
 
The Beetle is $3,000/year with a $5,000 deductible for collision and no windshield coverage.

Atlantic Xpat Dec 8th 2009 5:43 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8156765)
The Beetle is $3,000/year with a $5,000 deductible for collision and no windshield coverage.

Ouch! The recent interface with a truck load of rebar sounds like an expensive proposition in that case?

dbd33 Dec 8th 2009 5:48 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 8156818)
Ouch! The recent interface with a truck load of rebar sounds like an expensive proposition in that case?

Ah, that happened on the last day of the term. The $3,000 was the renewal premium not taking the collision into account.

Crashes are always expensive, having worked with Canadian insurance companies for decades the last thing I'd expect is for one to settle a claim without making the policyholder suffer; either they stick the insured with the repair bill or with legal fees for making them pay for the repair. The estimate for the Beetle repair is $12,000 but $3,000 in parts and $800 in labour is for the soft top; I expect I'll just duct tape over the hole.

iaink Dec 8th 2009 5:58 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8156824)
The estimate for the Beetle repair is $12,000 but $3,000 in parts and $800 in labour is for the soft top; I expect I'll just duct tape over the hole.

You could just drive it with the roof down for the winter to prove some macho point...

sheadboy Dec 8th 2009 5:59 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 8156608)
Try Johnson Insurance. I think they cover NB.

I renewed our insurance today. With 5 years claim free history in Canada (but unfortunately a claim in the UK in the year I left) it will cost us $2100 to insure a car, a truck and an ATV for the year. $150 a month would be lovely in comparison!

I too used johnson and they took into account my UK history. they were cheaper than most. I think I ended up paying just over $100 per month...a good $30 cheaper than the other guys.

ClanickP Dec 8th 2009 6:04 am

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Do they do winter tyres and chains for bicycles?:D

dbd33 Dec 8th 2009 6:05 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8156842)
You could just drive it with the roof down for the winter to prove some macho point...

Proving one's macho point in a Beetle is always challenging.

iaink Dec 8th 2009 6:06 am

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Originally Posted by ClanickP (Post 8156854)
Do they do winter tyres and chains for bicycles?:D

You can get studded tires....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3066/...2b7096f996.jpg


Why you would want to I dont know...

R I C H Dec 8th 2009 7:22 am

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8156861)
You can get studded tires....

Why you would want to I dont know...

A colleague uses those (she can't drive due to health reasons), and she manages to commute right through the winter without problem.

jericho Dec 8th 2009 7:50 am

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I pay $150 a month, and receive some credit for my UK experience...and I'm an insurance broker, and get staff discount!

You aint gettin' ripped off with $150 a month, trust me!

bzriddell Dec 8th 2009 9:21 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by luvmykids (Post 8156438)
We got our car insurance through a broker here back in July. We gave copies of our no claims etc and got a deal through AXA. Suddenly at the end of September we were told that our no claims did not count in Canada as we had out of North America driving experience, so we have to pay full premium :eek:

Our broker said he'd try and find someone else who could insure us, but has since come back and said he can't find anyone.

We are in New Brunswick, is this just a provincial issue or a Canada wide one? What companies have you got insurance from and have they honored your no claims? We have coming on to ten years so we are reluctant to let it slip away!

Any recommendation of a good insurance company would be good as we are paying over $150 per month in car insurance at the moment.

Thanks :)

Try Canadian Direct they will take into account UK driving record

Auld Yin Dec 8th 2009 1:54 pm

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8156765)
The Beetle is $3,000/year with a $5,000 deductible for collision and no windshield coverage.

Does this reflect an accident/ticket prone driving history? I insure two relatively new, not inexpensive vehicles for $1,800 annually with a $500 deductible and windshield coverage. Previous posts by you suggest you speed excessively on a regular basis.

dbd33 Dec 8th 2009 11:30 pm

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by Auld Yin (Post 8157807)
Does this reflect an accident/ticket prone driving history? I insure two relatively new, not inexpensive vehicles for $1,800 annually with a $500 deductible and windshield coverage. Previous posts by you suggest you speed excessively on a regular basis.

I routinely drive at the speed expressed on the signs at the side of the road, using them as a guide to the appropriate mph at which to travel. Obviously, I don't consider this excessive. I did get a ticket once, yes. I also drive 40,000 miles a year, that has some bearing on the premiums.

Souvy Dec 8th 2009 11:41 pm

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I think things are different in QC (what a surprise). The insurance on our Tuscon is $93 a month. If, I recall, though, the road tax also contains an element of insurance.

Greenhill Dec 8th 2009 11:50 pm

Re: Car insurance
 
Consider fitting smaller wheels and tyres to the car (around 60% of the size of those currently installed).

Although this might increase the difficulty of the macho challenge, the illusion of breaking the speed limits (without actually breaking the speed limits) will be the reward.


Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8158980)
I routinely drive at the speed expressed on the signs at the side of the road, using them as a guide to the appropriate mph at which to travel. Obviously, I don't consider this excessive. I did get a ticket once, yes. I also drive 40,000 miles a year, that has some bearing on the premiums.


Greenhill Dec 8th 2009 11:56 pm

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I pay around $800 a year (fully comp with all the add-ons) on the SX4 here in NS. This is through Aviva insurance (available through most brokers).

dbd33 Dec 8th 2009 11:57 pm

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by Greenhill (Post 8159048)
Consider fitting smaller wheels and tyres to the car (around 60% of the size of those currently installed).

Although this might increase the difficulty of the macho challenge, the illusion of breaking the speed limits (without actually breaking the speed limits) will be the reward.

Oh, I assure you that tootling along in a Beetle at 80mph is not a macho thing, it's just cruising.

iaink Dec 9th 2009 1:39 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8159066)
Oh, I assure you that tootling along in a Beetle at 80mph is not a macho thing, it's just cruising.

Cruising in a Beetle? sorry...I think I just got totally the wrong mental image:rofl:

dbd33 Dec 9th 2009 1:54 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8159278)
Cruising in a Beetle? sorry...I think I just got totally the wrong mental image:rofl:

As have the many pedestrians I find myself chatting to along Church St.

iaink Dec 9th 2009 1:58 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8159322)
As have the many pedestrians I find myself chatting to along Church St.

Like that never happened in the Mustang...

dbd33 Dec 9th 2009 2:02 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8159332)
Like that never happened in the Mustang...

The Mustang attracted shouts of "Nice car, Buddy". Often from women. "And such women" as a passenger once dismissively observed.

People who speak to me through the window when the Beetle is stopped in traffic tend overwhelmingly to be not women or not quite women.

Auld Yin Dec 9th 2009 2:19 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8158980)
I routinely drive at the speed expressed on the signs at the side of the road, using them as a guide to the appropriate mph at which to travel. Obviously, I don't consider this excessive. I did get a ticket once, yes. I also drive 40,000 miles a year, that has some bearing on the premiums.

So you drive, whenever possible, at 64km in a 40km zone
80km in a 50km zone
129km in a 80km zone
160km in a 100km zone

If this be so, and for someone who I consider, from his scribblings, to have a well above average intellect you are incredibly irresponsible, verging on stupid. It's only by providence you haven't killed or severely maimed someone.

Even driving 40k miles per year for business would not, IMO, have such a bearing on your insurance costs.

Atlantic Xpat Dec 9th 2009 2:22 am

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Auld Yin, I'd invite you to reflect on the general tone of dbd33's posts and the hint of exaggeration that creeps in. Plus, the man is talking about the GTA. I've been there. It's impossible to drive at more than 40kmh for most of the time due to the traffic.;)

dbd33 Dec 9th 2009 2:24 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by Auld Yin (Post 8159371)
So you drive, whenever possible, at 64km in a 40km zone
80km in a 50km zone
129km in a 80km zone
160km in a 100km zone

If this be so, and for someone who I consider, from his scribblings, to have a well above average intellect you are incredibly irresponsible, verging on stupid. It's only by providence you haven't killed or severely maimed someone.

Even driving 40k miles per year for business would not, IMO, have such a bearing on your insurance costs.

No to 64 in a 40. 40 would be a school zone and I would drive slowly. Otherwise that's about right. I rarely drive on business.

What makes you think I haven't killed or maimed people?

dbd33 Dec 9th 2009 2:25 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 8159378)
Auld Yin, I'd invite you to reflect on the general tone of dbd33's posts and the hint of exaggeration that creeps in. Plus, the man is talking about the GTA. I've been there. It's impossible to drive at more than 40kmh for most of the time due to the traffic.;)

Well, yes, on the 400 series highways I average 11mph. It's only on rural roads, typically with a 50mph limit, that one can commonly let loose.

iaink Dec 9th 2009 2:28 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by Auld Yin (Post 8159371)
<50km in a 40km zone
60-70km in a 50km zone
100km in a 80km zone
120-125km in a 100km zone


Adjusted to reflect what I consider safe around here to avoid a ticket;). Obviously poor visibility / slick roads will have a moderating effect.

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 8159378)
Auld Yin, I'd invite you to reflect on the general tone of dbd33's posts and the hint of exaggeration that creeps in. Plus, the man is talking about the GTA. I've been there. It's impossible to drive at more than 40kmh for most of the time due to the traffic.;)

:lol:;)

Souvy Dec 9th 2009 2:49 am

Re: Car insurance
 
Talking of insurance, I reckon the claims guys are going to be quite busy today. The first storm of the season and it's a right bastard. Heavy snow coupled with high winds. Nice.

dbd33 Dec 9th 2009 2:50 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 8159443)
Talking of insurance, I reckon the claims guys are going to be quite busy today. The first storm of the season and it's a right bastard. Heavy snow coupled with high winds. Nice.

I made note of the weather and tried not to crash.

Souvy Dec 9th 2009 3:07 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8159446)
I made note of the weather and tried not to crash.

Most wise. You can rest assured that many people around here will have forgotten what snow is. There will be some bent Civics before the day is out.

It really is vile out there.

luvmykids Dec 9th 2009 3:18 am

Re: Car insurance
 
Thanks for the info, will try Johnsons and Aviva. Our payment per month with Axa prior to them deciding our no claims didn't count was only $75 per month. I didn't realize $150 was cheap! Not like Tesco's insurance here then! :rofl::thumbsup:

spankysparkle Dec 9th 2009 3:41 am

Re: Car insurance
 
apologies if i'm hi-jacking the thread, but it is related so i thought I'll ask.
How will the premiums be calculated in our case?:

Lets just say in Canada (Alberta?) I have a car and Mr Fluff has a car:
I have no claims in UK with no points lost (2005-2007) and 1 claim in 2007 in Germany with no points lost (2007 - 2010). Before that we were in SA so I'll ignore that. How will my premiums be calculated?

Mr Fluff has not owned a car since 2000, but has always been an insured driver with my insurance. No claims under his belt, no points lost. So how will they calculate his premiums?

I'm already preparing for the worst and having to pay the full premiums with no discounts.

anyone have any ideas?

iaink Dec 9th 2009 3:45 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by spankysparkle (Post 8159586)
So how will they calculate his premiums?

Expensively, with lots of zeros I suspect:(

spankysparkle Dec 9th 2009 4:02 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8159596)
Expensively, with lots of zeros I suspect:(

oh gods i knew it, i knew it! we're all doomed!!

Butch Cassidy Dec 9th 2009 4:06 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by spankysparkle (Post 8159630)
oh gods i knew it, i knew it! we're all doomed!!

Theres always christchurch. :p

AlexInBC Dec 9th 2009 4:41 am

Re: Car insurance
 

Originally Posted by spankysparkle (Post 8159586)
apologies if i'm hi-jacking the thread, but it is related so i thought I'll ask.
How will the premiums be calculated in our case?:

Lets just say in Canada (Alberta?) I have a car and Mr Fluff has a car:
I have no claims in UK with no points lost (2005-2007) and 1 claim in 2007 in Germany with no points lost (2007 - 2010). Before that we were in SA so I'll ignore that. How will my premiums be calculated?

Mr Fluff has not owned a car since 2000, but has always been an insured driver with my insurance. No claims under his belt, no points lost. So how will they calculate his premiums?

I'm already preparing for the worst and having to pay the full premiums with no discounts.

anyone have any ideas?

Your "no claims" in the UK is sadly irrelevant as the claim in Germany cancels it out. They're specific about needing to know how long you've been claim free, not what percentage your "no claims bonus" is at, as so many people have their "no claims" protected now (in the UK at least!) If you were to seek Canadian car insurance in 2010 you'd be able to claim to have had 2 years with no accidents or claims (assuming you don't have any more in the meantime!) which will probably give you a tiny discount. Unfortunately your husband will start from scratch as having been a named driver doesn't count.

spankysparkle Dec 9th 2009 5:47 am

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Originally Posted by AlexInBC (Post 8159736)
Your "no claims" in the UK is sadly irrelevant as the claim in Germany cancels it out. They're specific about needing to know how long you've been claim free, not what percentage your "no claims bonus" is at, as so many people have their "no claims" protected now (in the UK at least!) If you were to seek Canadian car insurance in 2010 you'd be able to claim to have had 2 years with no accidents or claims (assuming you don't have any more in the meantime!) which will probably give you a tiny discount. Unfortunately your husband will start from scratch as having been a named driver doesn't count.

thanks AlexIn BC, that's what I expected...

Butch! but you're not in Chch!!


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