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Mrs Miggins Jul 12th 2008 5:22 pm

Bratz dolls. Hookers or harmless?
 
Hooker in a box or just harmless dolls for little girls?:huh:

http://www.thetoyreview.com/wiki/Bratz_Dolls

:confused:
Any views on these ?

Mrs M x

Butch Cassidy Jul 12th 2008 5:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Mrs Miggins (Post 6565634)
Hooker in a box or just harmless dolls for little girls?:huh:

http://www.thetoyreview.com/wiki/Bratz_Dolls

:confused:
Any views on these ?

Mrs M x

Hookers follow an age old profession
these dolls and purely hos:eek:

AmyDavid Jul 12th 2008 11:21 pm

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I think they are freakishly revolting and my two daughters will not be playing with them. :)

Cookie Jul 13th 2008 1:28 am

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I remember there used to be a Trailer Trash Barbie. Can't find it online now so probably a collectors edition by now $$$$$$

However, I did come across this website during my search. For all you rednecks out there (for big kids only).......................... http://www.redneckwarehouse.com/ :rofl:

HopefullyWanted Jul 13th 2008 6:57 am

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Um, dare I admit that my daughter had a Bratz doll for her 4th birthday.

sinope Jul 13th 2008 7:17 am

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Originally Posted by AmyDavid (Post 6566143)
I think they are freakishly revolting and my two daughters will not be playing with them. :)

Same here. Brazt are definitely hookers and sleazy, ugly hookers at that. They seem to be designed to normalise young girls wearing mini skirts, midi-tops and make-up.

Alberta_Rose Jul 13th 2008 9:17 am

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Originally Posted by sinope (Post 6567176)
Same here. Brazt are definitely hookers and sleazy, ugly hookers at that. They seem to be designed to normalise young girls wearing mini skirts, midi-tops and make-up.

Is it any coincidence that the google ad at the side of that link is

Gorgeous Ukrainian Girls
12,000+ Ukrainian Girls Pictures 800+ Videos. Must See!
[website link removed]


:eek:

ellsie Jul 13th 2008 10:05 am

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Hookers for sure. I refused to buy these for my eldest daughters several years ago and the youngest will be no different. Cheap and tacky. :thumbdown:

moondevil Jul 14th 2008 1:34 am

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My daughter has them and she is no hooker :curse:

Hers are very tastful, has a car, horse, even a very large wood dolls house that may i say i bought from canada some years ago.

I was do i, dont i some years back, but she loves them, probably like we loved barbie at that age, plus if you buy the man the boys can play as well.

Michelle my kids are from 10 down to 3 and they are all good kids.

Barbie was classed as tarty when i was growing up :thumbsup:
now the bratz are getting the press :unsure:

Mrs Miggins Jul 14th 2008 4:19 am

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I haven't placed my view, I was just asking the question moon devil!:)

But you appear in the minority on this so far, it's interesting though isn't it, that throughout generations there have been toys made for little girls that some people really dislike due to their connotations of being sexual etc. I was just wondering........

Mrs M x

moondevil Jul 14th 2008 4:38 am

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Originally Posted by Mrs Miggins (Post 6570025)
I haven't placed my view, I was just asking the question moon devil!:)

But you appear in the minority on this so far, it's interesting though isn't it, that throughout generations there have been toys made for little girls that some people really dislike due to their connotations of being sexual etc. I was just wondering........

Mrs M x

:) no probs, as long as you over see which ones she buys i can't see a problem with girls having them :thumbsup:
At least now they have a nose, when they first come out they didn't :rofl::rofl:
Harmless fun for the girls, like the barbie but better.
Bring the kids to mine when we move over and you will see, i love the doll's and my 10yr old still plays with them, although when they are school my little one can be found doing there hair and undressing them :eek::eek:

i love being the minority:lol:;)

Cassie 10000 Jul 14th 2008 4:45 am

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I would have to agree Mrs Miggins, they are very strange looking things. Not as nice as Barbie, but they are by the same company arn't they?

iaink Jul 14th 2008 4:58 am

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Its a toy aint it?


I remember playing "war" as a kid, but Ive mostly avoided becoming a psycho as an adult.

Kids play what and how they want to play, regardless of the toy itself. Frankly I'm surprised kids want anything that ugly, but the other influences around them will make far more difference in the long run.

I seem to have resisted the dodgy crew cut and stubbly beard "action man" look, (not to mention the chiseled abs and pecs) so perhaps the effect of toys on kids is overstated?

We worried about the effect of "stick thin impossible figure barbie" on our daughters perception of what women should look like, but its ultimately pointless to resist, and thankfully they seem to have enough sense to be able to make a distinction between a toy and the real world, unlike some of the people here it seems.

Cookie Jul 14th 2008 7:03 am

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I remember years ago a friend's son running around playing cops and robbers with a gun fashioned out of 2 crusts of toast.

I wonder if he became a baddie or a chef ;)

Mrs Miggins Jul 14th 2008 7:47 am

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Well what message do the cabbage patch kids send our youngsters?:rofl:

I don't know, it's hard to know where it all stops and starts. A friend of mine is Jehovah Witness. She never allowed her kids to have guns. So instead the boys made guns out of their fingers and still shot each other.

Mrs M x

bazzz Jul 14th 2008 8:05 am

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 6570118)
We worried about the effect of "stick thin impossible figure barbie" on our daughters perception of what women should look like

Why? It's not such an unhealthy aspiration. In the developed world number of deaths due to not eating enough are minute compared to the deathtoll from gluttony.

Looking at kids today, it's pretty clear that they're not gettin enough thin role models.

iaink Jul 14th 2008 8:08 am

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Originally Posted by bazzz (Post 6570733)
Why? It's not such an unhealthy aspiration. In the developed world number of deaths due to not eating enough are minute compared to the deathtoll from gluttony.

Bazzz, once again you clearly have no grasp of the real issue.

If a Barbie was scaled up to full size proportions she would be 5 feet, 9 inches, (1.75 m) measuring 36-18-33. According to research by the University Central Hospital in Helsinki, Finland, she would lack the requisite 17 to 22 percent of body fat required to menstruate, and her wrists would not be large enough for her bones to fit.

A good and health example to strive for. NOT.

Looking at kids today, it's pretty clear that they're not gettin enough thin role models.
Its not a shortage of thin role models (have you looked in a magazine recently?) Its a shortage of exercise and healthy eating options, and I dont think we can really hold any toy responsible for that, unless its the playstation?

nikki dreaming Jul 14th 2008 8:18 am

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Originally Posted by bazzz (Post 6570733)
Why? It's not such an unhealthy aspiration. In the developed world number of deaths due to not eating enough are minute compared to the deathtoll from gluttony.

Looking at kids today, it's pretty clear that they're not gettin enough thin role models.

Agree with you re the likely figures, however as parents you are much more in control of the amount of food your child may eat to excess or the type of diet they lead, than dealing with a child who wont eat due to their warped perception of how they "think " they should look.

bazzz Jul 14th 2008 8:20 am

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Originally Posted by nikki dreaming (Post 6570775)
Agree with you re the likely figures, however as parents you are much more in control of the amount of food your child may eat to excess or the type of diet they lead, than dealing with a child who wont eat due to their warped perception of how they "think " they should look.

I agree. Shoddy parenting is the main cause of obesity. How best to implement a system of pre-conception screening to filter out the idiots who want to breed?

iaink Jul 14th 2008 8:23 am

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Originally Posted by bazzz (Post 6570784)
I agree. Shoddy parenting is the main cause of obesity. How best to implement a system of pre-conception screening to filter out the idiots who want to breed?

Im curious how a parent is to control what a child eats at school, (where they spend most of their waking time), if there is only a selection of unhealthy junk to choose from?

Do you actually have kids?

We have the opposite problem, its virtually impossible to get out oldest kid to eat anything, heathy or not, although thats the result of other circumstances that predate Barbie in her life.

There are aparantly lots of studies linking Barbie with the way girls view there bodies (mostly as too fat), but I think perhaps its harsh to pin all the blame for that on the toy. It is just a toy after all, just as the Bratz are.

bazzz Jul 14th 2008 8:25 am

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 6570797)
Im curious how a parent is to control what a child eats at school, (where they spend most of their waking time), if there is only a selection of unhealthy junk to choose from?

Do you actually have kids?

Do they have to eat what's available at school? Can't you give them a packed lunch?

I hate kids, so I certainly hope there aren't any lurking in the background waiting to give me a nasty shock.

iaink Jul 14th 2008 8:28 am

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Originally Posted by bazzz (Post 6570805)

I hate kids,

I'd never have guessed:rolleyes: No wonder you are such an expert on parenting...


cant you give them a packed lunch
No, not always, and you cant ensure that they would eat it, even if you did...

ann m Jul 14th 2008 8:30 am

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Iain, don't bite .... bazzz makes it more than clear that those who breed are not only mad for doing so, but on the whole irresponsible and 'thrust' their wee loves on anyone and everyone. I expect his mother loved him when he was little .... maybe, but I wonder how "shoddy" her parenting skills were to produce the persona that is bazzz ;)

bazzz - I love you really - your scathing wit and sarcasm are offered equally to all, without favour and forethought :wub: ps, can you babysit on Saturday?

bazzz Jul 14th 2008 8:32 am

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Originally Posted by ann m (Post 6570826)
ps, can you babysit on Saturday?

Sure. Will you pay for my coke and whores?

moondevil Jul 14th 2008 8:32 am

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Originally Posted by bazzz (Post 6570805)
Do they have to eat what's available at school? Can't you give them a packed lunch?

I hate kids, so I certainly hope there aren't any lurking in the background waiting to give me a nasty shock.

you shock :ohmy:

Don't you think that would be the other way around.

:rofl::rofl:

Mrs Miggins Jul 14th 2008 4:19 pm

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Originally Posted by bazzz (Post 6570805)
Do they have to eat what's available at school? Can't you give them a packed lunch?

I hate kids, so I certainly hope there aren't any lurking in the background waiting to give me a nasty shock.



Bazz you have to have a sex with a woman to have kids.;) So I'm pretty sure you are safe from any nasty shocks, self love just doesn't count.

Mrs M x

sinope Jul 14th 2008 7:06 pm

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 6570118)
Its a toy aint it?


I remember playing "war" as a kid, but Ive mostly avoided becoming a psycho as an adult.

Kids play what and how they want to play, regardless of the toy itself. Frankly I'm surprised kids want anything that ugly, but the other influences around them will make far more difference in the long run.

I seem to have resisted the dodgy crew cut and stubbly beard "action man" look, (not to mention the chiseled abs and pecs) so perhaps the effect of toys on kids is overstated?

We worried about the effect of "stick thin impossible figure barbie" on our daughters perception of what women should look like, but its ultimately pointless to resist, and thankfully they seem to have enough sense to be able to make a distinction between a toy and the real world, unlike some of the people here it seems.


I think that buying Brazt dolls for a young girl is as appropriate as dressing her in Playboy clothes and I think that the pressures are immense on young girls to be sexy at a very early age. Why else do we have anorexic 8 year olds?

You might be interested in this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...self-harm.html

moondevil Jul 14th 2008 8:16 pm

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Originally Posted by sinope (Post 6572248)
I think that buying Brazt dolls for a young girl is as appropriate as dressing her in Playboy clothes and I think that the pressures are immense on young girls to be sexy at a very early age. Why else do we have anorexic 8 year olds?

You might be interested in this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...self-harm.html

This is down to parent choice, i let my child play with them, they are a toy
Like we had barbie growing up, did i turn out as a barbie :confused:

:rofl::rofl::rofl: - no

To much is put on kids to grow up, its a toy and the end of the day the clothes that your kids wear are bought by the parent, there is mini tarty clothes out there, but thankfully my daughter is wise enough to wear decent clothes ;)
There is thongs for 10yrs olds, bras, mini mini skirts etc etc
although my daughter has played bratz for a couple of years now she knows that this is a TOY and not real life.

Would you let your daughter play with a doll and pram ????
But surely if you allow her to do this then you are accepting her to be a single mum ;)

Kids will be kids :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Cassie 10000 Jul 14th 2008 8:27 pm

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I don't have kids of my own yet but I am sure most girls are playing with these guys.

You can't walk anywhere in England without seeing something related to High School Musical

sinope Jul 14th 2008 10:06 pm

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Originally Posted by moondevil (Post 6572377)
This is down to parent choice, i let my child play with them, they are a toy
Like we had barbie growing up, did i turn out as a barbie :confused:

:rofl::rofl::rofl: - no

To much is put on kids to grow up, its a toy and the end of the day the clothes that your kids wear are bought by the parent, there is mini tarty clothes out there, but thankfully my daughter is wise enough to wear decent clothes ;)
There is thongs for 10yrs olds, bras, mini mini skirts etc etc
although my daughter has played bratz for a couple of years now she knows that this is a TOY and not real life.

Would you let your daughter play with a doll and pram ????
But surely if you allow her to do this then you are accepting her to be a single mum ;)

Kids will be kids :thumbsup::thumbsup:


I think that Brazt dolls are part of the pressure put onto young girls to grow up too quickly; from role models like Jordan, to seeing pole dancing or becoming a WAG as a valid career choice, to only wearing pink, to playboy brand pencil cases, it is all about how you look and the brands that you have, which should be the least important things.

And actually I hate gender-specific toys so no, my daughter doesn't have a pram or a dolly (though it is nothing to do with whether she grows up to be a single mother), and I get no end of comments from people who think she is strange because her favourite colour is blue.

iaink Jul 15th 2008 12:59 am

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Jordan is a role model?

:eek::eek:

iaink Jul 15th 2008 1:07 am

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Originally Posted by sinope (Post 6572248)
I think that buying Brazt dolls for a young girl is as appropriate as dressing her in Playboy clothes and I think that the pressures are immense on young girls to be sexy at a very early age. Why else do we have anorexic 8 year olds?

You might be interested in this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...self-harm.html

Im not going to rush out and buy her one, but if all her friends have them, or she sees one in the store and says thats what she wants for her birthday, or she is given one as a gift, what are you supposed to do? I think people are reading way too much into this, and compared to the media bombardment to be thin, its really a drop in the bucket. Thats before you even get into the whole casual porn society argument.

She can dress her dolls however she wants to, I dont see any harm, but ultimately for the next many years we will have the last say in what she wears.

For the first 3 years we never inflicted gender related stuff on her, she was happy to have short hair and was into "Bob the Builder", but as soon as she hit nursery school that went out of the windows and she decided she would rather have long hair and be a princess and be pretty in pink. You cant dictate these things, sometimes shit just happens. Currently she queens it over about a dozen barbie princesses (plus one brat) and leads them on elaborate imagined adventures, shes even teaching them all to sing...:unsure:. You just cant micro manage every aspect of their lives.

All you can do is make them aware of the healthy choices, try and set a good example yourself, try and make them media savvy and free thinking (how do you do that with a 5 year old anyway) and trust them and hope for the best.

NovaGirl Jul 15th 2008 1:15 am

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 6573159)
Jordan is a role model?

:eek::eek:


Iaink you beat me to it!

:eek::ohmy: I am still back at Jordan being a role model:eek::huh:

NG x

The4BellsLondon Jul 15th 2008 1:20 am

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Originally Posted by NovaGirl (Post 6573203)
Iaink you beat me to it!

:eek::ohmy: I am still back at Jordan being a role model:eek::huh:

NG x

Oh actually I quite like Jordan - she gets some stick, bur she is bloody hard working!

NovaGirl Jul 15th 2008 1:24 am

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Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon (Post 6573215)
Oh actually I quite like Jordan - she gets some stick, bur she is bloody hard working!

Oh my memory:eek::blink:

Didn't she devalue her Aston Martin by having it painted PINK:eek:

NG xx

The4BellsLondon Jul 15th 2008 1:27 am

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Originally Posted by NovaGirl (Post 6573229)
Oh my memory:eek::blink:

Didn't she devalue her Aston Martin by having it painted PINK:eek:

NG xx

Probably - but then its her AM that she worked hard to buy !!

actually having said that I had A suzki vitara jeep that I had pink pigs put all over!!!

ok am I turning into Jordan ??? :eek:

iaink Jul 15th 2008 1:32 am

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Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon (Post 6573243)
Probably - but then its her AM that she worked hard to buy !!

Or was was it bought by one of her string of high profile wealthy boyfriends.... Apart from her tits, isnt that what she is really known for? Some role model.

The4BellsLondon Jul 15th 2008 1:33 am

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 6573255)
Or was was it bought by one of her string of high profile wealthy boyfriends....

Nah - she's only had 1 high profile bf - that dwight yorke chappy!

NovaGirl Jul 15th 2008 1:34 am

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Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon (Post 6573243)
Probably - but then its her AM that she worked hard to buy !!

actually having said that I had A suzki vitara jeep that I had pink pigs put all over!!!

ok am I turning into Jordan ??? :eek:


No!!!!!!!!!!! Stop:eek: Lets get a drink 4bells & change the subject:rofl:

NG xxx

The4BellsLondon Jul 15th 2008 1:38 am

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Originally Posted by NovaGirl (Post 6573268)
No!!!!!!!!!!! Stop:eek: Lets get a drink 4bells & change the subject:rofl:

NG xxx

ok - off to the Inn we go . . . .


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