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Former Lancastrian Mar 21st 2016 9:43 am

Boaty McBoatface.
 
This is sometimes why I am proud to be British and should serve as a warning to others who think its a good idea to ask the public to name certain things.


Boaty McBoatface leads public vote to name new £200m research vessel | News | The Independent


I can just imagine the looks of disgust at a number of posh British establishments on hearing this news. there will be splutterings in their G & T's and port and sherry or whatever fancy drink they choose. Why was this allowed to happen and whoever is responsible should be flogged with a cat o nine tails or sent to Botany Bay.


This is 2016 and there is this thing called the Internet. Now if you ask the public to get involved to suggest names for whatever it is you are thinking of naming then expect the serious to the totally out in left field names suggested and as demonstrated in this story you might not like the end result.
Now we know the establishment wont let the vessel be named this even if it does have the most votes and as the article states


Anchored in the terms and conditions, the website states ‘the final name will be selected by NERC.’


So if they were going to select a name then why leave yourselves open to ridicule by allowing the public to suggest names knowing that it could go viral in this case.


Yes its just the Brits being silly, irreverent or whatever you describe them as but it shows we do still have a sense of humour and with the internet we can call on all of our friends and their friends and their friends friends to vote for a particular name causing the establishment to go into melt down or suffer from some piss taking across the world as there should never have been a decision to let the public suggest a name.


Sure let the kids suggest names for new Police puppies or horses etc but think about other projects you don't want them suggesting names for.


Manchester City many years ago suggested renaming one of the stands at the end of the ground after one of their most famous players Colin Bell.
Urban legend has it that thousands of Manchester United fans voted for it to be called the Bell End. They eventually decided to name one of the side stands after him.

Stinkypup Mar 21st 2016 9:50 am

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I think that that is a brilliant name for a boat. We had a poll to rename our medical clinic and in the end got a reasonable name. I am thanking our lucky stars that Oink wasn't part of the process:cool:

bats Mar 21st 2016 11:46 am

Re: Boaty McBoatface.
 
It's wonderful. I do hope the ask HM to do the launching thing.

bc2015 Mar 21st 2016 12:14 pm

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There's pretty much no chance of the name being actually selected, however one of the scientists said on twitter that they would call it by that name


dbd33 Mar 21st 2016 12:30 pm

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I believe it to be true that, when Nunavut was created, there was a poll to determine what the residents of the rest of the NWT wanted "their bit" to be called. The winning selection was "Bob" so they're stuck with North-West Territories.

caretaker Mar 21st 2016 1:53 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11902114)
I believe it to be true that, when Nunavut was created, there was a poll to determine what the residents of the rest of the NWT wanted "their bit" to be called. The winning selection was "Bob" so they're stuck with North-West Territories.

I did not know that, and now I do (Bob was actually 2nd place). You could learn something new every day.


BristolUK Mar 21st 2016 11:13 pm

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1 Attachment(s)
From the David Squires cartoon in today's Guardian regarding the new England football kit.

Teaandtoday5 Mar 22nd 2016 4:27 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11902454)
From the David Squires cartoon in today's Guardian regarding the new England football kit.

You don't see enough of the banana splits nowadays :thumbup:

BristolUK Mar 22nd 2016 8:08 am

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Originally Posted by Teaandtoday5 (Post 11902692)
You don't see enough of the banana splits nowadays :thumbup:

Or Parsley :)

jk94441 Mar 22nd 2016 9:53 am

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I'm a big fan of Boaty McBoatface. They should go with it and be damned the people who say it is too silly. Just look at all the press attention they have gotten already - people are going to be interested to read a blog 'adventures of Boaty McBoatface' on the latest science they are up to. And in schools kids can see where Boaty is on the map and what research they are currently doing. They have inadvertently created a masterful piece of public outreach and they should embrace it!

Stinkypup Mar 22nd 2016 12:25 pm

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I quite like the Notthetitanic as a suggestion too

rivingtonpike Mar 22nd 2016 12:27 pm

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The Portsmouth to Waterloo train this morning had the name Trainy McTrainface on the elecronic board on the front driver's carriage.


http://www.standard.co.uk/news/trans...-a3209291.html

Former Lancastrian Apr 18th 2016 7:41 am

Re: Boaty McBoatface.
 
UPDATE :


As the polls finally closed for the naming of its new polar research ship, the NERC confirmed that the votes were overwhelmingly in favour of RRS Boaty McBoatface.


The top five suggestions are:
  1. RRS Boaty McBoatface – 124,109
  2. RRS Poppy-Mai – 34,371
  3. RRS Henry Worsley – 15,231
  4. RRS It’s bloody cold here – 10,679
  5. RRS David Attenborough – 10,284
Now we all know the establishment will not allow this boat to be named this even with it democratically being the chosen name. Bloody Tories are now acting like North Korea. You asked the public to vote and they did. Would you do this in a general election if you received the majority of votes?


Anyway its a bloody stupid name as its not a boat its a ship therefore it should have been named Shippy McShipface.

Bleepedy Bloops Apr 20th 2016 11:15 am

Re: Boaty McBoatface.
 
"Name of Vessel" has a nice ring to it.

:egyptian:

haggis88 Apr 20th 2016 1:39 pm

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https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram...56772352_n.jpg

BristolUK Apr 20th 2016 1:48 pm

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http://www.trbimg.com/img-56fea667/t...01/650/650x366

Shard Apr 20th 2016 5:59 pm

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I've been avoiding this story (in the media) as it sounded like something stupid. Have just been brought up to speed by reading this BE thread. Definitely an "only in Britain" situation. I suppose I am warming to the name. Perhaps, given the notoriety, could be used and the ship referred to as "Boaty" for short.

caretaker Apr 20th 2016 11:01 pm

Re: Boaty McBoatface.
 

Originally Posted by haggis88 (Post 11928169)

(Planey McPlaneface) Aer Bus?

dbd33 Apr 20th 2016 11:57 pm

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11928270)
Definitely an "only in Britain" situation.

It's not though. Refer Nunavut/Bob/NWT. The public collectively has a sense of humour while bureaucrats do not. People try to have a laugh, po-faced administrators struggle to keep up standards of pomposity.

Shard Apr 21st 2016 12:04 am

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Only in Britain and Bob?

Never understood why they didn't make the whole of NWT, Nunavut...

Bob must be a force to be reckoned with.

Zoe Bell Apr 21st 2016 12:06 am

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I think a real opportunity was wasted here. Generally the public don't give a flying monkey's about scientific research. People might have actually started paying attention to what Boaty McBoat face was actually doing

dbd33 Apr 21st 2016 12:20 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11928503)
Only in Britain and Bob?

Never understood why they didn't make the whole of NWT, Nunavut...

Bob must be a force to be reckoned with.

They didn't call it all Nunavut because the public voted to call it various other names, one of which was Bob. Government decided that Bob wasn't a good name for a chunk of tundra and so part of it is Nunavut and part of it is the NWT. The story is analogous to that of the boat (assuming it's not actually named Boaty McBoatface or It's Cold Here or some other name people voted for but isn't administratively appropriate) and so demonstrates that far from being specifically British, this is an every day tale of sham public consultation that could come from anywhere except Switzerland.

caretaker Apr 21st 2016 12:44 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11928521)
this is an every day tale of sham public consultation that could come from anywhere except Switzerland.

The Swiss may not have much of a sense of humour, but their flag is a big plus.

BristolUK Apr 21st 2016 12:53 am

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Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 11928539)
The Swiss may not have much of a sense of humour, but their flag is a big plus.

For about half a second I was just going to remind myself and then it came to me. :rofl::rofl:

paw339 Apr 21st 2016 3:18 am

Re: Boaty McBoatface.
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 11926194)
UPDATE :
Anyway its a bloody stupid name as its not a boat its a ship therefore it should have been named Shippy McShipface.

:thumbsup:

Gordon Barlow Apr 21st 2016 4:00 am

Re: Boaty McBoatface.
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 11926194)
Anyway its a bloody stupid name as its not a boat its a ship therefore it should have been named Shippy McShipface.

To anyone who's not a sailor, everything on the water is a boat, unless it's a duck.

haggis88 Apr 21st 2016 5:11 am

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Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow (Post 11928677)
unless it's a duck.

Quacky McQuackface

Shard Apr 21st 2016 5:13 pm

Re: Boaty McBoatface.
 

Originally Posted by haggis88 (Post 11928737)
Quacky McQuackface

Phucky Mc...

BEVS Apr 21st 2016 5:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow (Post 11928677)
....unless it's a duck.

Floaty McFloatyFaces

Former Lancastrian Apr 27th 2016 10:27 pm

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So the name Boaty McBoatface has now been registered in Hansard.
During a Parliamentary Committee Business Chief a top civil servant named Martin Donnelly was asked by South Norfolk MP Richard Bacon which name had won the poll.
The simple sounding question was met with a baffling response by the Permanent Secretary for Business, Innovation and Skills, who did not want to say the silly name.
The Tory MP pressed him again: 'Can you state for the record which name won the contest?

But again he had to rephrase the question to 'which name won the won the poll', before he got the answer he was looking for.
Martin Donnelly finally caved in after being asked four times and said: 'I believe Boaty McBoatface won the poll.'
Mr Bacon responded: 'I just wanted you to say that on record. And you did,' to laughter in the room.

The marketing alone would be astronomical. T shirts, mugs, key rings, puzzles and a whole load of Boaty McBoatface could be licensed and monies raised used in the research for the NERC. Kids at school could get engaged and perhaps show more interest as to why Arctic research is done.

I think by not naming it Boaty they are sort of missing the boat on this one.

caretaker Apr 28th 2016 12:50 am

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If they haven't got a trademark registered we could scoop them ourselves, how hard is it to find out? A little crowdfunding (probably pennies each), flip it to somebody rich and we could have the Mother of Meet-Ups.

Bleepedy Bloops May 1st 2016 10:04 am

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Even "Boaty" would have been a good PR move...

Former Lancastrian May 5th 2016 10:15 pm

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Woo Hoo a result now how is this going to spun?

Is it a case that the NERC and Govt caved in, came to some sort of compromise or the name does grow on you after a while?

Boaty McBoatface will explore the polar seas as a yellow submarine on board a £200m research ship named after Sir David Attenborough.
Science Minister Jo Johnson announced today that the humorous name - which became the runaway favourite in a public poll to christen the ship - would adorn a remote-control sub-sea that will explore the waters of the Atlantic.
But the research ship itself, where Boaty will be housed, will be named Royal Research Ship Sir David Attenborough, in tribute to the legendary explorer in the year of his 90th birthday.

mikelincs May 5th 2016 10:30 pm

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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/u...d-attenborough

Pizzawheel May 6th 2016 3:27 am

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So Boaty lives on but McBoatface?

paw339 May 6th 2016 4:41 am

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'Boaty McBoatface' polar ship named after Attenborough - BBC News

dave_j May 6th 2016 6:46 am

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This was a farce waiting to lose it's trousers.
Asking people to name a boat was like voting for anarchy, ok until it actually happens.
At least they picked the right Attenborough.

Former Lancastrian May 7th 2016 1:22 am

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Nice to see the British producing an Arctic research vessel. Kind of embarrassing for Canada which actually has an Arctic but no new Arctic vessels in sight.

BTW half inched this comment from a CBC article.

caretaker May 7th 2016 1:45 am

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 11942008)
Nice to see the British producing an Arctic research vessel. Kind of embarrassing for Canada which actually has an Arctic but no new Arctic vessels .

When it's old and worn out, we can buy it.

Former Lancastrian May 7th 2016 1:52 am

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Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 11942021)
When it's old and worn out, we can buy it.

You are talking about the ship and not Sir David aren't you?


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