Best City in the World
 

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The locals were very excited that Calgary was in the top 10. At least it keeps them happy:p

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FFS, the locals will be unbearable now. I think I'll skip the news later.

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Wow! Calgary at Number 5? I really don't know how to respond to that :lol:

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I'm not surprised by all the Canadian and Australian cities near the top. However, Manchester the best city in the UK? :eek:

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Me too. No doubt they'll have a two hour special on at noon, six and eleven.

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Having grown up on the outskirts of Manchester, I'm with you in being surprised.....for every 1 of these types of vistas

http://goo.gl/maps/C25I

there are many more of these

http://goo.gl/maps/Jwb3

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So Canada has 3 of the top 5 cities to live in, in the world??!! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

I wonder what the people who produced this 'survey' would come up with if you asked them the 5 best foods in the world?

1. Ham sandwich on white bread
2. Cheese sandwich on white bread
3. Tuna sandwich on white bread
4. Egg sandwich on white bread, and in 5th place, for the edgy...
5. Spicy tuna sandwich on wholemeal bread.

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The people who set the criteria for this must some of the most boring ever. I wouldn't want to go one of their parties. :thumbdown:

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:lol:

Gotta love those spicy tuna on wholewheat.

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Calgary is a fair enough place but 5th in the world is risible putting it mildly. I suspect the same can be said of most of the other "top ten".

If there was a top trumps game for "World Cities" I couldn't really see Vancouver as the Maclaren F1 equivalent.

If they can do this set maybe a "World Cities" set is a possibility..........

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Nation...402109&sr=1-14

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Wow Calgary no.5 and London no.53??? wtf...now if it was dullest places to live in the world it would be about right :thumbup:

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Oh gawd, City TV is going to go to town with this one ... literally. Still, rather be near the top of the heap than the bottom however the **** it's measured.

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It was measured across 5 criteria:

• Stability
• Healthcare
• Culture and environment
• Education
• Infrastructure

Vancouver got 98 out of 100, suggesting that it's only a mere 2 points away from being a perfect city. Given that Alan said he couldn't get home at night on public transport after a night on the lash, that must be where they lost ground.

Also, given the reason that rankings are published by The Economist, ("The survey is used by companies across the globe to calculate allowances for expatriate employees.", the higher up the list you are, the lesser the salary uplift you need to go there. So Vancouver's property prices obviously don't count against it at all.

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I see.
"Stability"? Vancouver's in an earthquake zone isn't it? Not very stable. And it rains all the frickin time too. Weather and environment aren't in the same bracket?
Good job sporting prowess didn't feature as a criteria at all - Toronto would have plummeted.

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There's only two cities on that list that even play proper sports.

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'corse it does. :rolleyes:

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Sorry, but it's sport not sports. Just a bugbear of mine ;)
Please don't say Calgary or anywhere based in Oz.

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The rankings are so close, it makes me wonder why the positions change so little year on year. I mean Vancouver scores 98% and 10th place Auckland scores 95.7%. No-one is going to notice a 2.3% difference in ratings.

It makes me smile the leap that people make from what the survey is about to what you see in the headlines. The survey basically ranks 140 cities across 5 areas to determine hardship allowances for expats. Vancouver ranks as the city with the 'least hardships'. The headlines you see are best city in the world/best place on earth etc.

Whilst in a survey like this, I can see why Vancouver would do well, I'm still staggered that it rates highly in terms of culture !! Mind you it didn't seem to hurt Calgary either. Perhaps that is explanation enough.

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I was using it in the plural sense as in football and cricket.

1. sport (noun/singular): Johhny loves sport.
2. sports (noun/plural): Johnny plays two sports; football and tennis.
3. sports (adjective): Johhny reads the sports news every day.

Vancouver top city to live
 

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Hoping to go Vancouver if I get accepted on IEC!
London No53 in that list lol

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I merged your post into the existing thread...

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Sorry for double post :o kind of got over excited and didnt look :p

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Still dont believe London is 53?..people who do these surveys must be the same that compile the worlds top 100 sexiest women list surely.

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Would you please start that thread? (With pics natch).

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These types of studies tend to be very subjective and amount to rather narrow qualitative measures and no one will agree what makes a city the best, it is simply too subjective. Moreover, smaller prosperous cities tend to do better in these studies due to the narrow factors considered, so the rankings should be taken with a pinch of salt and do nothing to indicate how likable a place may be, regardless of its livability but are more of a ‘what they are getting right’ sort of a study. I liked the climate better in Miami when I lived there and the archetecture better in Edinbrugh when I lived there but Vancouver is much more livable in my view...

On the world stage Vancouver has done nothing to shape the world like dynamic cities such as London, Rome or New York and I struggle calling it world class yet. But as truly great such cities are, how truly livable are they? While they hit the mark on general vibrancy, culture, economy and world influence, where do they stand on day to day livability (depending on how one defines it of course)? How accessible are green spaces, what is the crime like, how about over-crowding, the commute......etc

Mercer and the Economist tend to focus on such tangibles as education, stability, healthcare, air quality, etc while Monocle (Vancouver was number 16 the last time) focuses more on factors that amount to quality of life, access to parks, restaurants, sport facilities, etc. Larger power houses like London and New York tend to not make the grade in these studies as they are typically heavily balanced towards certain factors and don't hit a broader range of factors. London might be great for history and culture, but where are the uncrowded green spaces and parks, and opportunities to pursue outdoor activities.

While Vancouver falls off the mark in some areas, it sure is livable and offers a very high standard of livability overall. Like it or love it, it is livable.

Let the snide comments begin....

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Rains all the time.....well at least you get 10 out of 10 for being original...yawn....(did you know that TO gets more rain during the summer than Vancouver;)

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It's snowing where I am. It's a winter wonderland in my back garden.

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feels cold enough to snow here, but none as of yet...or rain for that matter.

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Hyde Park, Green Park, St. James' Park, Kensington Gardens, Hampstead Heath, Hackney Marshes, Primrose Hill, are the first few green spaces that spring to mind. In this regard London is way better than Toronto, though probably not Vancouver due to it raining all the time there.

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Wimbledon Common, Clapham Common, Wandsworth Common, Richmond Park, countless local parks... London is one of the 'greenest' major cities in the world in terms of parkland.

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Epping Forest. And it's year round green space. Most of Canada's city parks are covered in snow for half the year, you dare not venture into them for fear of tripping over some homeless person who's frozen to the ground.

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suprised it took you so long to come along.......with your usual snide comments. I actually said 'uncrowded parks' and was trying to make a point about llivability not debate green spaces. But of course you are too jaded and completley incapable of offering anything that is constructive....

Where are the beaches then? and are these green spaces as 'accessible' from downtown as they are here and what about those big moutains and lakes 20 mins from downtown? Happen you should have read my comments. As for it raining all the time........BOLLOCKS

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What would you say is the average bum density, human and canine in Toronto's Riverdale Park vs. London's Primrose Hill? I suggest that we've no way of knowing and that your use of "uncrowded" is ill considered.

I read your argument for liveablility, whatever that is, as depending on the amount of green space and was about to pack for Dublin (I trust you'll accept that it rains there. A lot. That's why it's green).

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Bloody cops, if they can't get after you for one thing, they'll pick another.

Now it's beaches, back to the earlier paragraph, the argument now goes:

"On the world stage Vancouver has done nothing to shape the world like dynamic cities such as London, Rome or New York and I struggle calling it world class yet. But as truly great such cities are, how truly livable are they? While they hit the mark on general vibrancy, culture, economy and world influence, where do they stand on day to day livability (depending on how one defines it of course)? How accessible are the beaches"

The beaches? In the grand scheme of things, who cares? A beach is nice but you have to be very close before it's practical to walk your dog on it each morning. For most people it might as well be down at Brighton.

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like my mother says, ignore those that have nowt worth saying......

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i give up .....Vancouver/Canada is crap, London is the only place worth living in and you are right about everything.......

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Try to be a bit more balanced. The thrust of my argument here is that London offers more green space and so more opportunity for outdoor activities than do most Canadian cities. This is doubly the case if one takes into account access, by public transit, to that green space. I don't know that Vancouver is crap and didn't say so, there's no need to get all teary and defensive about your current place of residence.

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Then why don't you say it that way <snip>. The study is not just Canadain cities and the point I was trying to make was the surveys are of of limited value as they focus on a narrow range of factors and some cities will invariably do well. If livablity is reduced to infrastucture, air qualiilty, commute times etc, places like London etc will not fair well. Accessible green spaces/beaches was used to make a point. And beaches are extremely accessible to the city core here, which is one of its unique features as is the outdoors in general. To some, my self included, that makes the place very livable. To those who crave larger cities with more culture/history will disagree.

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The top cities in the world, as ranked by a dry old body like The Economist, will be rather different to the top cities in the world as ranked by a body like Time Out.

When people research places to live, The Economist, I suggest, rarely figures. If you're happy in Vancouver, fine... don't get excited because the Economist validates that.