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I went to see my friends ex wife today as she is looking to change her mortgage (as a favour to him). I have to tell you I came away absolutely disgusted at what she gets.(this is really unprofessional I know but I thought I had to share it as it was making my blood boil)

She has 3 kids two to my mate and one to another guy.

20 hours per week teaching assistant Job £770 per month
Maintainance from my friend £385 per month
Other Childs Dad £250 per month
WORKING TAX CREDIT £250 A WEEK £1083 A MONTH
And another £150 or so child benefit.

Giving her a average weekly take home of over £600 a week.:curse::curse:

Fairness in the UK your having a f*****g laugh, and my friend is toiling after he pays her and the his own mortgage.To make matters worse she has a new car with a private plate, O and she gave him a lift the other night and asked if he liked her cruise control (you couldn't make this sh*t up).

O and she is livid cause her mortgage is rising £60 pm. Surely she must be telling lies to the government about her income her net disposable income is better than mine!!!!!!!!!!! (GREADY COW)

END OF LONG RANT:curse:


Danny

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She probably doesn't have to pay full council tax either!

One thing that winds me up, is when I'm in the Pharmacy and no one else seems to pay for their prescription:curse:

At our local high schools, most girls (not all) aim of a career is to have a baby! it takes the credit away from "proper" parents


That is why I like the Immigration procedure of Canada - they don't seem to let just anyone in, and everyone has to support themselves. (I am all for helping someone when they need it - but most abuse the system)

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How much does she have to pay for childcare?

Before you get on my case I'm not saying what she gets is right but child care is a factor especially in the summer months when you can look at paying over 100 pounds a week per child. Woirking tax credit doesn't go up for the summer months.

My husband before we moved was paying over 400 pounds a month for one child - he had a crap (pregnant)solicitor (CSA calculations on his earnings would have made it 250 pm).

Whereas my daughters biological got away without paying anything as he refused to aknowledge the child and the CSA dropped the case because of the previous abuse to me.

Whatever way you look at it, it just isn't fair.

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Doesn't sound like a massive amount of money to bring up three kids on. Anyway, if you want to be angry at someone, how about Philip Green?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Green#Tax_avoidance

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If she's working as a school assistant and depending on the age of the kids she probably doesn't need childcare (or maybe very little).

I totally agree why is it some people can get everything and others nothing.

Rosie

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She doesn't pay child care she starts at 9.30 finishes at 2.30 all the kids are at school.

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Depends how you look at it I think my beef is that only £770 is earned, but I think £600 a week is a decent amount remember its £ and not $.

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Either be very rich or very poor, don't be in between.

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Does he think he fathered kittens?


£385 per month is a pathetic, drop in the bucket, contribution to the cost of raising two children.

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You beat me to it. Kids cost money; you make them, you should pay for them. If she has found a way to raise two kids in comfort, good for her.:curse:

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£600/week is bloody good money, especially if it is take home. It's more than I get as an experienced nurse.

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She did seem well off when I misread the post and she had a private plane. Less so on second look.

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Seems the tax payer is contributing more to the support of thes kids than their fathers.

I find that more shocking than anything else.

They "should" be ashamed of themselves but I very much doubt that they are.

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Which bit do you object too?? you friend gets his kid cheap at £385 a month, if he paid what it really costs then maybe the taxpayer wouldnt have to pay

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Your obviously on the wind up!!! the guy clears £1400 takes his kids two days a week and the other guy in the equation does the same. I have two kids easily raised on less than £90 per week and I can assure you my kids
want for nothing.

This girl would need to earn £40k a year to earn this money on her own, maybe I just need to wake up and smell the coffee but I can't for the life of me see where She should get this much benefit.:confused:

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girl??? is she a child?

90 a week, does that include a portion towards, the house, the heating, the car etc etc??

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A womens point of view (no offence) he also gave her £15k towards buying her house as he wanted to aid his children, and the fact that she screwed about (hence the reason why they split up) he takes all three too the pictures or anything else on any kids night out (splits for half the xmas presents), on all three kids so that the other kid is not left out makes him generous and her a gready cow in my book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Apologies she is not a girl she,s a sponging arse! and why should he pay towards the Car????

I must not be getting it. My whole point is she is encouraged not to work because the government will pay her plenty as long as she works 16hours + a week.!!!:eek:

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But she is working, and has kids and is single. So you think she should work full time??

Basically we dont really know as we arent those people. You have heard it from one side. What annoyed me about your posts was that you seem to assume that she shouldnt have any money other than what she earns herself, and that she certainly shouldnt have any enjoyment out of it. Whatever makes you so bitter about it all??

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you are so right

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Do his kids not go in the car? Does he run them to school, take them to after school activities, fetch their shoppping etc?

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He obviously thinks she should run an old rust bucket death trap. They way to a mans heart is through his motor. She will have known it would wind him up hence comments on the cruise control!

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What makes me bitter about is that most of my friends and clients work twice as many hours, as this WOMAN have children and take home the same cash!!!!!!!!! and get heehaw from the goverment.

I paid over 10k tax last and got nothing? where is the justice in that or should I give up and take the piss just like her (typed in anger):curse:

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Well maybe you pay taxes to live in a heathy educated society, maybe that is what you get for your money.

I dont have children and I dont begrudge paying taxes to fund education and healthcare etc as I hope that my reward will be a better society for me to live in.

Child benefit, does everyone get that- whether they "need " it or not, thats a hand out too. do you get that or would you hand it back and say no, not me i will support myself?? Do you pay less tax if you have children?? Or hand it back??

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She lives about 2 mins from the school, must be great to be female where the guy the relationship gets shafted when he f**ks up and when she f**ks up he gets shafted again (apologies for the expletives).

Sorry girls but I can't see where you can defend this WOMAN she mucks up they fall out she makes half his earnings and takes home twice as much due to the fact that she is a single parent (thru choice).:confused:

Danny

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Batty

Everybody gets Child benefit, although we do not get tax credits because we earn over a certain amount which in the Uk you get punished for.

I just think we all get the same chance in life sorry!!! so why should people get bailed out from the government especially ones playing the system::( Another reason for seeking new shores I guess.

Danny

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Look BOY, people should be responsible for their actions, especially when their actions result in children.

I am not sure whether you are sour and bitter about the benefits system or, more likely women .

BTW professionally you should direct this woman to a colleague, you are way too involved.

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Absent parents should help to fully support their kids. What annoys me is the inequity. Some single parents get everything, others vary little

I got £30 a week for 2 kids, had to take out a bigger mortgage to buy by ex's half of the house. He worked full time and I part time. I just wans't ruthless enough.

There should be just a standard process so everyone gets a fair deal, not let it depend on the willingness of the absent parent or the tenacity of the parent with the kids.

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So why arent you bitter about someone earning say £100,000 and getting child benefit when they obviously dont need this handout, and this woman getting benefits, apart from that she has more than your mate?

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First of all I am no boy I am 35 years of age(well nearly:D although that is maybe not a good thing) my wife works for womens aid and I am the first to stick up for women who get a rough deal, but you would be right that I am a bit psssed at the UK benefits system and I have already referred the case to my partner.

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[QUOTE=batty-x-ray;5286807]So why arent you bitter about someone earning say £100,000 and getting child benefit when they obviously dont need this handout, and this woman getting benefits, apart from that she has more than your mate?[/QUOTE

Because they went out and earned it probably working 60 and 70 hours per week to make that cash. jees are you a man hater or a feminist

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I am not winding you up. I have created some children and funded them decently despite being estranged. I don't like to see other men f u c k and run. To my mind this chap is making a feeble contribution.

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[QUOTE=mclauchlan35;5286835 jees are you a ... a feminist[/QUOTE]

You say that like it's a bad thing.

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I think we are going to have have to agree to disagree here DBD although I am curious If the guy earns`£1400 net his mortgage on his modest two bed flat is £450 £73k mortgage (due to the uk housing market) £130 council tax £120 travel (on the bus he cant afford a car) £200 loan for debt reasons house insurance gas and electricity another £130, before maintainance how much do you think he should pay (just curious)

Batty is probably right by the way I am a little close to the case:blink: I'M boiling blood again just thinking about the poor guy and her with her private plate and cruise contriol and out every weekend thanks to her additional benefits.

Danny

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I applauded you for doing your best by your children but I'm sure even you had to eat?

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But that's the thing. If you create children you have to pay for them. If you choose to leave the mother you have to continue to support them and, if you want to eat, you have to earn more. Had he not left the family would have received £1400 from him, if he wants to leave and buy a flat he should generate the money for that on top of paying a sensible portion of the £1400. 350 isn't a sensible portion, especially considering he's paying 450 for a flat that benefits only himself.

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And how old are these "girls"???

I rest my case Mr 34 and three quarters

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DBD
He left her because she was Shagging somebody else (which she blamed on him as he was`working all the time), he also let her stay in the house that he owned whilst continuing to pay the bills for 6 months. and you can,t buy sh*t here for under £70k (1 bedroom) so unless he stays with his parents he has no option not to pay that.

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:rofl:
Its a term of phrase, you should be flattered getting referred to as a girl at your age:rofl:

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Corrr! I knew this would turn nasty - I think the mods should close it down?