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Old Apr 12th 2007, 11:55 am
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Default Barrage balloons compatibility question.

Hi, we're bringing over 2 rather large barrage balloons dating from 1944. They are flatpack at the moment but fully inflated will be about 19 metres long and about 8 metres in diameter. My worry is, will they be compatible with Canadian air? I understand that Canadian air is at a higher pressure than the UK (100 kPa UK, 167 kPa Can) this can cause the balloons to 'flip' in certain circumstances. Should I maybe sell them on Ebay and buy 2 new ones one when I get over there? Are there any outlets such as gas stations who supply large amounts of helium? And what would this cost?

I mainly require them for preventing low level bombing raids by the U.S. Airforce on my home.

Thanks in anticipation.
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Hi, we're bringing over 2 rather large barrage balloons dating from 1944. They are flatpack at the moment but fully inflated will be about 19 metres long and about 8 metres in diameter. My worry is, will they be compatible with Canadian air? I understand that Canadian air is at a higher pressure than the UK (100 kPa UK, 167 kPa Can) this can cause the ballons to 'flip' in certain circumstances. Should I maybe sell them on Ebay and buy 2 new ones one when I get over there? Are there any outlets such as gas stations who supply large amounts of helium? And what would this cost?

I mainly require them for preventing low level bombing raids by the U.S. Airforce on my home.

Thanks in anticipation.
Don't worry Steve, i don't expect the US airforce knows where Ottawa is anyway.
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Default Re: Barrage balloons compatibility question.

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Hi, we're bringing over 2 rather large barrage balloons dating from 1944. They are flatpack at the moment but fully inflated will be about 19 metres long and about 8 metres in diameter. My worry is, will they be compatible with Canadian air? I understand that Canadian air is at a higher pressure than the UK (100 kPa UK, 167 kPa Can) this can cause the ballons to 'flip' in certain circumstances. Should I maybe sell them on Ebay and buy 2 new ones one when I get over there? Are there any outlets such as gas stations who supply large amounts of helium? And what would this cost?

I mainly require them for preventing low level bombing raids by the U.S. Airforce on my home.

Thanks in anticipation.

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Steve, Not only are they a poorer quality, you also have the flipping 'Canadian barrage balloon tax' on top of all that.
I really miss the UK balloon scene, blimps flying over the green hills as the morris dancers do their stuff outside a Shakespear pub ahh the memories.
Their Canadian counterparts are of course twice the price, only come in orange and are incredibly noisy. You will of course have to find a 5th job to finance the hobby and probablly have to can it as we have no holiday over here
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Don't worry Steve, i don't expect the US airforce knows where Ottawa is anyway.
Good point print, save me some money not putting them up
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It's a little early to be hitting the sauce, isn't it?
It's lunchtime! The only sauce I've been on is the HP kind.
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Steve, Not only are they a poorer quality, you also have the flipping 'Canadian barrage balloon tax' on top of all that.
I really miss the UK balloon scene, blimps flying over the green hills as the morris dancers do their stuff outside a Shakespear pub ahh the memories.
Their Canadian counterparts are of course twice the price, only come in orange and are incredibly noisy. You will of course have to find a 5th job to finance the hobby and probablly have to can it as we have no holiday over here
Oh bugger. May have to keep them grounded then.

Managed to repair one blimp last year with Halfords bike repair kits, bought the whole store's stock in one go. The people in the Q behind me were not best pleased.

What!! How many weeks do you get annual leave!!!
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Don't worry Steve, i don't expect the US airforce knows where Ottawa is anyway.
If the USAF is ever told to bomb Ottawa, I'd hate to be a resident of Illinois or Kansas.
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Oh bugger. May have to keep them grounded then.

Managed to repair one blimp last year with Halfords bike repair kits, bought the whole store's stock in one go. The people in the Q behind me were not best pleased.

What!! How many weeks do you get annual leave!!!
Oh Halfords, how I miss Halfords. The friendly well informed staff, quality bikes etc. You just don't get that sort of service in Canada.
Well annual means every month doesn't it? In that case I get 0. In England I got 50 blah blah
http://www.calgaryballoonclub.org/
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Oh Halfords, how I miss Halfords. The friendly well informed staff, quality bikes etc. You just don't get that sort of service in Canada.
Well annual means every month doesn't it? In that case I get 0. In England I got 50 blah blah
http://www.calgaryballoonclub.org/
Does Canada have a similar store/shop?

So I need to be in Calgary then.
Check out this site, turn the sound up
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Check out this site, turn the sound up
http://www.bbrclub.org/

And there was me thinking that balloons were supposed to be quiet
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And there was me thinking that balloons were supposed to be quiet
Hope you didn't get into trouble. You ARE at work aren't you?
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Originally Posted by Bleech
I really miss the UK balloon scene, blimps flying over the green hills as the morris dancers do their stuff outside a Shakespear pub ahh the memories.

We have morris dancers here in Ontario and there are several sides in upstate NY; they're a weird bunch though, some are women. Typical really, they export a tradition and make a cock of it, like buying London Bridge and sticking it in the desert all the time thinking you was getting Tower Bridge.

No shortage of blimps here either, I gave up trying to do the kid's maths homework after a question that went roughly "Tommy Hilfiger's blimp is currently moored over Toronto Island, if it has a hole of size x ...... how long before it deflates" (originally in French, of course, le trou dans Tommy, etc. etc.)

All in all, cheaper to leave your blimps and get new, pig's bladders though, pig's bladders with history, them you wanna bring.
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Originally Posted by Bleech
Oh Halfords, how I miss Halfords. The friendly well informed staff, quality bikes etc. You just don't get that sort of service in Canada.
Well annual means every month doesn't it? In that case I get 0. In England I got 50 blah blah
http://www.calgaryballoonclub.org/
I was in Halfords at the weekend trying to buy a refil for a car wash gizmo my OH bought me. The nice spotty faced youth said oh we only sell the unit we don't sell the refills.
You couldn't make it up i tell ya.
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