banning latin ... is nothing sacred?
Nov 7th 2008, 8:22 pm
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Re: banning latin ... is nothing sacred?
Close, but no cigar:
moment < momentum, motion, thus cause of motion, thus importance
minute < minutus minute (very small), thus a small period of time
rural < rus, countryside
transport < trans, across + portare, to carry
dignitary < dignitas, dignity
computer < computare, ultimately com, with + putare, to think
research < ultimately re, again + circare, go around
derivation < derivare, to lead off
There are probably more. By no means a trivial task, using no words of Latin origin.
moment < momentum, motion, thus cause of motion, thus importance
minute < minutus minute (very small), thus a small period of time
rural < rus, countryside
transport < trans, across + portare, to carry
dignitary < dignitas, dignity
computer < computare, ultimately com, with + putare, to think
research < ultimately re, again + circare, go around
derivation < derivare, to lead off
There are probably more. By no means a trivial task, using no words of Latin origin.
Nov 7th 2008, 8:30 pm
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Re: banning latin ... is nothing sacred?
I've been trying, amongst other tasks this afternoon. It's a lot harder than it looks. Swearing is probably a good way to go, as is animal stuff like what Novo dun. Livestock is Anglo-Saxon, the same creature cooked and prepared is usually Norman French from Latin roots, because the peasants reared and prepared the food for the nobility... hence cow -> beef, sheep -> mutton, swine -> pork, deer -> venison, etc.
Nov 7th 2008, 8:47 pm
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Re: banning latin ... is nothing sacred?
Will this do?
The old man walked up the nearby hill, dropped his bucket down the well and drew some water. He washed his body, his hair and his clothes - shirt, socks, shoes, underpants and trousers - then put his anorak back on and trudged slowly towards his nearby house. Once he got there, he saw his wife in the field, gathering their sheep and goats for the night, to keep them safe in the shed. He kissed his woman and followed her into the back room, where they readied a meal, then they sat down and ate it with a big jug of beer. After that they both went to sleep.
The old man walked up the nearby hill, dropped his bucket down the well and drew some water. He washed his body, his hair and his clothes - shirt, socks, shoes, underpants and trousers - then put his anorak back on and trudged slowly towards his nearby house. Once he got there, he saw his wife in the field, gathering their sheep and goats for the night, to keep them safe in the shed. He kissed his woman and followed her into the back room, where they readied a meal, then they sat down and ate it with a big jug of beer. After that they both went to sleep.
Nov 7th 2008, 9:47 pm
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Re: banning latin ... is nothing sacred?
Will this do?
The old man walked up the nearby hill, dropped his bucket down the well and drew some water. He washed his body, his hair and his clothes - shirt, socks, shoes, underpants and trousers - then put his anorak back on and trudged slowly towards his nearby house. Once he got there, he saw his wife in the field, gathering their sheep and goats for the night, to keep them safe in the shed. He kissed his woman and followed her into the back room, where they readied a meal, then they sat down and ate it with a big jug of beer. After that they both went to sleep.
The old man walked up the nearby hill, dropped his bucket down the well and drew some water. He washed his body, his hair and his clothes - shirt, socks, shoes, underpants and trousers - then put his anorak back on and trudged slowly towards his nearby house. Once he got there, he saw his wife in the field, gathering their sheep and goats for the night, to keep them safe in the shed. He kissed his woman and followed her into the back room, where they readied a meal, then they sat down and ate it with a big jug of beer. After that they both went to sleep.
Nov 7th 2008, 10:09 pm
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Re: banning latin ... is nothing sacred?
having consulted wiki and I quote:
The origin of irregardless is not known for certain, but the consensus among references is that it is a blend of irrespective and regardless, both of which are commonly accepted standard English words. By blending these words, an illogical word is created. "Since the prefix ir- means 'not' (as it does with irrespective), and the suffix -less means 'without,' irregardless is a double negative."[1]
The origin of irregardless is not known for certain, but the consensus among references is that it is a blend of irrespective and regardless, both of which are commonly accepted standard English words. By blending these words, an illogical word is created. "Since the prefix ir- means 'not' (as it does with irrespective), and the suffix -less means 'without,' irregardless is a double negative."[1]
Nov 8th 2008, 12:13 am
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Re: banning latin ... is nothing sacred?
having consulted wiki and I quote:
The origin of irregardless is not known for certain, but the consensus among references is that it is a blend of irrespective and regardless, both of which are commonly accepted standard English words. By blending these words, an illogical word is created. "Since the prefix ir- means 'not' (as it does with irrespective), and the suffix -less means 'without,' irregardless is a double negative."[1]
The origin of irregardless is not known for certain, but the consensus among references is that it is a blend of irrespective and regardless, both of which are commonly accepted standard English words. By blending these words, an illogical word is created. "Since the prefix ir- means 'not' (as it does with irrespective), and the suffix -less means 'without,' irregardless is a double negative."[1]
Nov 8th 2008, 12:15 am
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Re: banning latin ... is nothing sacred?
Will this do?
The old man walked up the nearby hill, dropped his bucket down the well and drew some water. He washed his body, his hair and his clothes - shirt, socks, shoes, underpants and trousers - then put his anorak back on and trudged slowly towards his nearby house. Once he got there, he saw his wife in the field, gathering their sheep and goats for the night, to keep them safe in the shed. He kissed his woman and followed her into the back room, where they readied a meal, then they sat down and ate it with a big jug of beer. After that they both went to sleep.
The old man walked up the nearby hill, dropped his bucket down the well and drew some water. He washed his body, his hair and his clothes - shirt, socks, shoes, underpants and trousers - then put his anorak back on and trudged slowly towards his nearby house. Once he got there, he saw his wife in the field, gathering their sheep and goats for the night, to keep them safe in the shed. He kissed his woman and followed her into the back room, where they readied a meal, then they sat down and ate it with a big jug of beer. After that they both went to sleep.
Nov 8th 2008, 12:16 am
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Re: banning latin ... is nothing sacred?
What light through yonder window breaks. 'Tis dawn, and Juliet is the sun.
I'm not too sure of the Latin but it's something like 'Quod Est Demonstratum', roughly translating as far as I know into 'what is demonstrated'.
I'm not too sure of the Latin but it's something like 'Quod Est Demonstratum', roughly translating as far as I know into 'what is demonstrated'.
Nov 8th 2008, 12:19 am
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Re: banning latin ... is nothing sacred?
Will this do?
The old man walked up the nearby hill, dropped his bucket down the well and drew some water. He washed his body, his hair and his clothes - shirt, socks, shoes, underpants and trousers - then put his anorak back on and trudged slowly towards his nearby house. Once he got there, he saw his wife in the field, gathering their sheep and goats for the night, to keep them safe in the shed. He kissed his woman and followed her into the back room, where they readied a meal, then they sat down and ate it with a big jug of beer. After that they both went to sleep.
The old man walked up the nearby hill, dropped his bucket down the well and drew some water. He washed his body, his hair and his clothes - shirt, socks, shoes, underpants and trousers - then put his anorak back on and trudged slowly towards his nearby house. Once he got there, he saw his wife in the field, gathering their sheep and goats for the night, to keep them safe in the shed. He kissed his woman and followed her into the back room, where they readied a meal, then they sat down and ate it with a big jug of beer. After that they both went to sleep.
Unfortunately, the top prize is to help dbd33 with his daily greek.
Nov 8th 2008, 12:26 am
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Nov 8th 2008, 12:44 am
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Re: banning latin ... is nothing sacred?
If your interested in the roots of English I recommend "Mother Tongue" by Bill Bryson, written before he got into travel writing. Explains the whole progression in his amusing style.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_bryson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_bryson
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Nov 8th 2008, 12:58 am
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Re: banning latin ... is nothing sacred?
Are you sure pants isnt Latin? pantalons?
Novo, I was hoping you could treat us to an old english/norse combo in the form of a geordie bible story. That should avoid Latin. Those Romans got to Newcastle though, so maybe not.
Novo, I was hoping you could treat us to an old english/norse combo in the form of a geordie bible story. That should avoid Latin. Those Romans got to Newcastle though, so maybe not.