Originally Posted by rohmanns (Post 9035416)

SSHHH !!!

Dont tell everyone :eek:

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9035467)

No cause for worry, most British people have some morality about them so what's offered in Wal-Mart is irrelevant.

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 9035879)

As sold in Valumart, so no need to join the 'people of Walmart'

Originally Posted by Trophy (Post 9037075)

So what is so immoral about buying bacon in Walmart?

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9035467)

No cause for worry, most British people have some morality about them so what's offered in Wal-Mart is irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 9037222)

I for one am looking forward to the Walmart near us being turned into a super Walmart, a bit of competition for the local supermarkets and fresh veg - non bendy carrots, non wrinkly apples etc will be really good. No I don't wear jammies when I go there, I just object to paying $7.98 for Marmite (for example) when Walmart sells it for $3.77.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9037741)

Don't you care that this Marmite, produced by the bleeding fingers of child labourers, will be sold to you by a behemoth notorious for the exploitation of its workforce, the crushing of independent retailers and a tendency to cause towns to be reduced to a depressingly similar pattern of car-driven suburban development with he core of the town being turned over to homeless drug addicts?

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9037150)

Not especially bacon. Anything. Do you go there in pyjamas?

Originally Posted by Trophy (Post 9037850)

Is it obligatory to wear pyjamas to buy bacon then? Goddamn crazy Canadians.

Originally Posted by Trophy (Post 9037849)

WOW, is it really that bad in Guelph?

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9037887)

It's not bacon related but Walmart related, even then it's not obligatory, merely customary, to have one's flabby body parts erupting from one's pyjamas. Perhaps this is to exhibit the wisdom of rule three for tatooes; nowhere that's going to sag.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 9037941)

Is this a class thing?

Originally Posted by Trophy (Post 9037081)

Not all of us have a Valumart, that's why we're letting those with a Walmart know they can buy it there.

So from your comment I take it you're one of the "people of Valumart" then?

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9037741)

Don't you care that this Marmite, produced by the bleeding fingers of child labourers, will be sold to you by a behemoth notorious for the exploitation of its workforce, the crushing of independent retailers and a tendency to cause towns to be reduced to a depressingly similar pattern of car-driven suburban development with he core of the town being turned over to homeless drug addicts?

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 9038123)

No, not really, if it wasn't Walmart it would be some other chain. Walmart isn't always cheaper than other stores either. If you are concerned about independent retailers that much you would never set foot in a chainstore. Other chains also get their goods from the same people that supply/make goods for Walmart.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9038128)

Why then do you think Walmart has such a poor reputation compared to, say, Target?

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 9038146)

I'm sure the locals that are against Walmart because it's a USA company wouldn't shop Target either.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9038176)

Are there such people? I'd have thought most enemies of Walmart were Americans in America.

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 9038191)

There are a few people I have met that will only shop in Canadian owned companies.

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 9038123)

No, not really, if it wasn't Walmart it would be some other chain. Walmart isn't always cheaper than other stores either. If you are concerned about independent retailers that much you would never set foot in a chainstore. Other chains also get their goods from the same people that supply/make goods for Walmart.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9038198)

Weird. Where do they buy coffee?

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 9038206)

Have a read of this for info on Walmart

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Wal-Mart

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 9038191)

There are a few people I have met that will only shop in Canadian owned companies.

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 9038191)

There are a few people I have met that will only shop in Canadian owned companies.

Originally Posted by Trophy (Post 9038624)

So what is basically being said is that you need to be low income, overweight with/without tattoos and wear pyjamas to shop in Walmart????

I'm surprised nobody mentioned inbreeding as well, or does that come later in the argument?

I am not of low income, have no tattoos and don't own a pair of pyjamas, though I am slightly overweight. I am quite happy to shop in Walmart, just as I shopped in Asda in the UK.

Most of the drivel in the article linked by Fled shows that most of the issues were raised by NIMBYs, Union Reps and those after a quick buck through compensation if they could get it.

I wonder do they sell step ladders big enough to allow those of you who seem to dislike Wallyworld so much, to get down from your high horses.

Cheap git and proud of it, never pass a bargain by.

Originally Posted by Auld Yin (Post 9038636)

I made no such suggestion. I was suggesting that those who pontificate against Walmart need to examine their position. I am fully aware that it's not only low income people who do/should shop there and said so in my post. I shop there myself from time-to-time and I am anything but poor/low income. I was merely pointing out that persons of low income cannot afford Starbucks coffee @ $16 per pound a bar of soap from Body Shop or kid's clothes from The Gap and Walmart provides good shopping for such people along with non-such people.
I was railing against those who have a one-dimensional view of Walmart, that is an entity of the utmost evil and beyond redemption.

Originally Posted by Auld Yin (Post 9038595)

It's oh so very easy to pontificate about the evils of shopping in Walmart when one is in a high five/six figure family income bracket which I suspect is the fact with most people on this site. For seniors on fixed incomes/Government pensions, those on welfare, unemployed and disability payments and $15/hour income people it is an entirely different matter. For many such people survival is the name of the game. Getting to the next cheque is what's important to them not if the item they buy/need is made in China or Timbuktu.
There's no doubt some of the company's buying/merchandising/personnel policies are somewhat questionable but these are, IMO, overshadowed by the service and price it provides for lower income people and the many not-so-low who regularly shop there.
Its success speaks for itself. The statement "build it and they will come" speaks to its success.

Originally Posted by Trophy (Post 9038624)

So what is basically being said is that you need to be low income, overweight with/without tattoos and wear pyjamas to shop in Walmart????

I'm surprised nobody mentioned inbreeding as well, or does that come later in the argument?

I am not of income, have no tattoos and don't own a pair of pyjamas, though I am slightly overweight. I am quite happy to shop in Walmart, just as I shopped in Asda in the UK.

Most of the drivel in the article linked by Fled shows that most of the issues were raised by NIMBYs, Union Reps and those after a quick buck through compensation if they could get it.

I wonder do they sell step ladders big enough to allow those of you who seem to dislike Wallyworld so much, to get down from your high horses.

Cheap git and proud of it, never pass a bargain by.

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 9038675)

There are plenty who don't have that income on this site and $15 an hour is a lot of money in this area.



Was that link drivel? There are plenty of articles out there, that was just one of them. Walmart in the USA has definitely been fined more than once for flouting labour laws. The Government of Norway Pension Fund audit wasn't too happy about Walmart's employment practices.

We sometimes shop in No Frills which as I mentioned in an earlier post has a similar demographic to Walmart, as does Giant Tiger which is another cheap and yucky place I shop at so snobbery doesn't come into it.

I quite understand that when you are very poor you don't really have much scope for ethical shopping and when we first arrived we did buy some stuff in there. Now we earn more so that I don't have to watch every penny I chose to go elsewhere. We certainly don't earn the $$$ that Auld Yin mentions.

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 9038675)

There are plenty who don't have that income on this site and $15 an hour is a lot of money in this area.



Was that link drivel? There are plenty of articles out there, that was just one of them. Walmart in the USA has definitely been fined more than once for flouting labour laws. The Government of Norway Pension Fund audit wasn't too happy about Walmart's employment practices.

We sometimes shop in No Frills which as I mentioned in an earlier post has a similar demographic to Walmart, as does Giant Tiger which is another cheap and yucky place I shop at so snobbery doesn't come into it.

I quite understand that when you are very poor you don't really have much scope for ethical shopping and when we first arrived we did buy some stuff in there. Now we earn more so that I don't have to watch every penny I chose to go elsewhere. We certainly don't earn the $$$ that Auld Yin mentions.

Originally Posted by Auld Yin (Post 9038723)

Being fined for flouting labour laws is far from unique to Walmart. I fail to see what is so unethical in shopping there. It employs thousands of people, including seniors thereby providing dignity and income, rather than Government support schemes/handouts. They work in a clean, modern building with a well-lit parking lot. If one has issues with the ethics then, by all means, make a statement by not shopping there, but, IMO, it is not appropriate denigrate those who do.

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 9038748)

Quite, have I denigrated anyone for shopping there?