Originally Posted by LorraineG (Post 6999610)

Which is a crying shame and in my opinion plays with victims lives and these tradegies crop time and time again

Absolutely.
I work with some people who are passionate about preventing another 'baby p', and they work very hard to ensure they follow best practice. Unfortuntely their efforts are often hampered by a lack of resources. With regard to training in schools, they have to target their efforts at schools in special measures that have a high staff turnover as they do not have enough money to cover all schools. We have almost 600 schools in our borough, a lot of staff to train and keep up to date and it is a crying shame that lack of appropriate training in this vital area comes down to money.

I do agree with some of the other posts in that it is very important to raise awareness. The more people that are informed, the less likely a situation is 'missed', 'overlooked' or 'ignored'. One can only hope that this time lessons really will be learned from the death of this poor, poor child and the government wakes up to the fact that it needs to throw some serious money at the whole area of social work and review the legislation that so often ties their hands.

Originally Posted by Eve N (Post 7000909)

Sorry if this has been said didnt read through ALL of the replies.

Though banned by the judge
the mothers,partner and logders names have been posted all
over the net apparently.

Good or Bad ?

Originally Posted by Rainey69 (Post 7001543)

Not sure on that one......on one hand it could be a case of name and shame......after doing this to a 17 month old baby and not being charged with murder :confused:, only because the jury couldn't decide who dealt the final blow, why should they be protected by the law? The law didn't really protect Baby P, but i do understand how difficult it was for the professionals who were involved. On the other it could spark a serious vendetta......2 wrongs don't make a right but some would take it on themselves to dish out their own brand of justice. I do think it's a very difficult one to answer being that the case really is sickening and will bring out raw emmotion in people.

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 7002064)

The vendetta part is a very real possibity. I see there is a facebook site saying the social workers should be sacked. It's very worrying where all this will lead.

Originally Posted by dingbat (Post 7002345)

I look forward to the flurry of applications to become CP social workers in the UK. There will no doubt be a line up of people who think they can do better. 99% of them will leave skid marks out of the car park the first time they get verbally or physically attacked, stuck with a needle, have their cars wrecked, their own kids targeted at school and their private lives invaded. All for at least 25% less than the average wage for degree qualified professionals in other fields. This thread really should be closed, it serves no real purpose.

Originally Posted by dingbat (Post 7002345)

I look forward to the flurry of applications to become CP social workers in the UK. There will no doubt be a line up of people who think they can do better. 99% of them will leave skid marks out of the car park the first time they get verbally or physically attacked, stuck with a needle, have their cars wrecked, their own kids targeted at school and their private lives invaded. All for at least 25% less than the average wage for degree qualified professionals in other fields. This thread really should be closed, it serves no real purpose.

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 7005301)

eh :confused:

At the risk of sounding blasé a vibrator without batteries serves no real purpose - but this thread has gotten people talking about real issues, agreeing, disagreeing, and questioning - we are in The Maple Leaf where the majority of threads don't actually make a great deal of sense, but this one has.

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 7005457)

Does it really though? Most people seem still to be on a witch hunt against social workers, health workers, "them" and few seem to want to accept that sometimes shit happens. When something terrible like this happens, you can't say it's one person's fault, its an accumulation of actions, system failure. But somewhere at the root of it all is us, people, that we stick our heads in the sand and blame others and not take action ourselves. By action I don't mean some polluting balloons in a empty political gesture.

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 7005589)

I suppose my point is to disagree with Dingbat that this thread serves no real purpose. For heavens sake you look at some of the threads we partake in lol. At least with this one there are real feelings and opinions being put across.

The issue I am addressing is not the one that thinks the thread can do anything about the BabyP scenario - more so that why should the thread be stopped just BECAUSE it can't do anything. Thats just silly ;)

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 7005636)

Yes, I see what you mean about the subject matter, it is rather more serious than most of the stuff we join in on here, but is that a "real" purpose?

Maybe it will make someone somewhere take action when they think something is wrong.

It's worth remembering that while Baby P was failed here, many children aren't.

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 7005589)

I suppose my point is to disagree with Dingbat that this thread serves no real purpose. For heavens sake you look at some of the threads we partake in lol. At least with this one there are real feelings and opinions being put across.

Originally Posted by moondevil (Post 7008823)

what are you trying to say mandi....that my naughty room thread wasn't good, or the pub thread was no good....

(only joking...we need to discuss anything on here, is that not why its an open forum ;))