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Old Jul 25th 2014 | 12:15 pm
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Pffft its lucky she wasn't charged and facing criminal prosecution for violating this important piece of legislation that is protecting Canada and its citizens

So answer this

Had the BSO overlooked this and let in the item and for some reason it was later discovered would you as a BSO accept disciplinary action that could have resulted in say a suspension and loss of 3 days pay for using common sense as most of you seem to think?
Again was it CBSAs own legislation or acting on behalf of another Govt Agency piece of legislation.
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Old Jul 25th 2014 | 12:38 pm
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Here we go, a thread about CBSA becoming about FL and his job. Was waiting for that to happen

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Old Jul 25th 2014 | 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Gozit
Here we go, a thread about CBSA becoming about FL and his job. Was waiting for it.
Maybe when you grow up and get a job one day you might be faced with making a decision. So would you be prepared to lose a $1000 of pay because you think the legislation or policy is stupid?
Easy to criticize from the outside and not having to make these decisions so come on how many of you would willingly give up that $1000?



Yeah I thought not. BTW the union would lose if they challenged the 3 day suspension with loss of pay.
 
Old Jul 25th 2014 | 12:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
Maybe when you grow up and get a job one day you might be faced with making a decision. So would you be prepared to lose a $1000 of pay because you think the legislation or policy is stupid?
Easy to criticize from the outside and not having to make these decisions so come on how many of you would willingly give up that $1000?



Yeah I thought not. BTW the union would lose if they challenged the 3 day suspension with loss of pay.
Besides the point, but no I wouldn't. What I would do, if I was the Canada arts agency or whatever its called, is phone up my buddies at CBSA and say what the hell?

Why would the arts agency not have INFORMED CBSA that the piece of art was coming into the country? Obviously if a federal department ordered it, it WILL be OK. So not letting it in the country is really just stupid. The BSO that denied it according to the rules was just doing his job, you are correct. But why would an order to allow it in the country not be passed down from a higher department?
 
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Then what you need is a rat line because when something stupid like this leaks out it makes the border services look bad all the way up the chain of command. Call the boss and say we're burning books here, you have to stop it or we'll all be in trouble. Our taxes pay for this and we don't want to hear the Speer defence that you're just following orders. Tories hate the arts, always have - artists embarrass assholes so it's an uphill fight.
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Here's a chance to improve the system and publicity should accomplish this.
 
Old Jul 25th 2014 | 1:09 pm
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Originally Posted by caretaker
Then what you need is a rat line because when something stupid like this leaks out it makes the border services look bad all the way up the chain of command. Call the boss and say we're burning books here, you have to stop it or we'll all be in trouble. Our taxes pay for this and we don't want to hear the Speer defence that you're just following orders. Tories hate the arts, always have - artists embarrass assholes so it's an uphill fight.
The bouncer in the old Plains threw the wrong person out and when I pointed it out -
Bouncer: I don't make the rules, I just enforce them.
Me: Well that shows a real lack of initiative.
Here's a chance to improve the system and publicity should accomplish this.
If I was the BSO I would be speaking with my boss about it as well. Not just sitting there and blindly enforcing rules.
 
Old Jul 25th 2014 | 1:12 pm
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Originally Posted by caretaker
Then what you need is a rat line because when something stupid like this leaks out it makes the border services look bad all the way up the chain of command. Call the boss and say we're burning books here, you have to stop it or we'll all be in trouble. Our taxes pay for this and we don't want to hear the Speer defence that you're just following orders. Tories hate the arts, always have - artists embarrass assholes so it's an uphill fight.
The bouncer in the old Plains threw the wrong person out and when I pointed it out -
Bouncer: I don't make the rules, I just enforce them.
Me: Well that shows a real lack of initiative.
Here's a chance to improve the system and publicity should accomplish this.
I dont disagree. I believe the Ottawa Citizen or possibly the National Post just did a 8 day series of whistleblowers stories from federal govt employees.
An extract from a story I just read about one whistleblower

Brian McAdam wanted to do the right thing and he expected that his government would stand behind him.
However, when he revealed widespread corruption in Canadian government offices in Hong Kong and what he says was infiltration of every level of Canadian government by Chinese criminal forces in Canada, the opposite happened.
Rather than being rewarded for his efforts to expose the corruption within the Canadian Foreign Service, McAdam says he was treated like a pariah, pressured into leaving his job, and then slandered.
In other words, he was hung out to dry while the bad guys whistled all the way to the bank. And in this case the bad guys were the triads (Chinese mafia), the Chinese Communist regime, which McAdam says is linked to the triads, and even some Canadian officials.
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