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daft batty Sep 12th 2007 6:42 am

another crap haircut
 
What is it with hairdressers here? :curse:Why dont they understand that when I say I want my hair cut to shoulder length and layered it means just that?? It doesnt mean shoulder length when my shoulders are all hunched up by my ears!!:curse: Its the second time I have paid for a haircut since I have been here, last time was in October and they cut it far too short then. So this time I thought I wont say "take an inch off" as hairdressers inches are obviously much longer than anyone elses. I thought I'd cracked it by saying shoulder length. Pah, bastards. Do I have to wait till I go back to England on hols to get a decent cut????

Giggles2080 Sep 12th 2007 6:48 am

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Originally Posted by batty-x-ray (Post 5303617)
What is it with hairdressers here? :curse:Why dont they understand that when I say I want my hair cut to shoulder length and layered it means just that?? It doesnt mean shoulder length when my shoulders are all hunched up by my ears!!:curse: Its the second time I have paid for a haircut since I have been here, last time was in October and they cut it far too short then. So this time I thought I wont say "take an inch off" as hairdressers inches are obviously much longer than anyone elses. I thought I'd cracked it by saying shoulder length. Pah, bastards. Do I have to wait till I go back to England on hols to get a decent cut????

I know what you mean! I have been to about 6 different hairdressers since I have been here (4 years) and I thought I had found the perfect one! I went back to her about 4 times before she HACKED off my hair!! I had let it grow quite long and told her I wanted about 5 inches taken off...no more!!! She took off about 10, so from being half way down my back it was above my shoulders!!!!!!! :blink:

TruBrit Sep 12th 2007 6:56 am

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Originally Posted by batty-x-ray (Post 5303617)
What is it with hairdressers here? :curse:Why dont they understand that when I say I want my hair cut to shoulder length and layered it means just that?? It doesnt mean shoulder length when my shoulders are all hunched up by my ears!!:curse: Its the second time I have paid for a haircut since I have been here, last time was in October and they cut it far too short then. So this time I thought I wont say "take an inch off" as hairdressers inches are obviously much longer than anyone elses. I thought I'd cracked it by saying shoulder length. Pah, bastards. Do I have to wait till I go back to England on hols to get a decent cut????

i had to poke my nose in when i saw the title of this thread coz we have the same problem here. some of the peeps haircuts esp the mens i see walking around, well, i'm sure i could do better with a pair of scissors and a pudding basin tbh :sneaky: :D

luckily 3 yrs ago a great scottish hairdresser and his partner moved over from aberdeen and opened up not too far from us...he is inundated with brits and locals.

good luck and hope you find someone soon :)

kate white Sep 12th 2007 7:03 am

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Originally Posted by batty-x-ray (Post 5303617)
What is it with hairdressers here? :curse:Why dont they understand that when I say I want my hair cut to shoulder length and layered it means just that?? It doesnt mean shoulder length when my shoulders are all hunched up by my ears!!:curse: Its the second time I have paid for a haircut since I have been here, last time was in October and they cut it far too short then. So this time I thought I wont say "take an inch off" as hairdressers inches are obviously much longer than anyone elses. I thought I'd cracked it by saying shoulder length. Pah, bastards. Do I have to wait till I go back to England on hols to get a decent cut????

WOW dont hold back girl let her have it:rofl:just a pitty you dont have posh's dosh you could send for someone to come give you a good hair cut;)lets hope you find a good hairdresser yet:thumbsup:

Calgal Sep 12th 2007 7:08 am

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Originally Posted by batty-x-ray (Post 5303617)
What is it with hairdressers here? Do I have to wait till I go back to England on hols to get a decent cut????

Ohhhhh Batty - you have my sympathy! I have NEVER had my hair cut in Canada - too scared to after seeing what they do to my Husband and kids....lol (it's long, and I have my daughter trim it for me - straight line is easy enough and she'll do it where I tell her to).

I remember some good recommendations being made on this forum not so long back. People who knew good hairstylists and/or European ones. Tried a search?

Having said that, my daughter had a reasonable cut done at "Angles" in West Hills (Calgary) for any locals that may be interested. She listened to what she wanted and actually did it for her.

daft batty Sep 12th 2007 7:14 am

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Originally Posted by kate white (Post 5303677)
WOW dont hold back girl let her have it:rofl:just a pitty you dont have posh's dosh you could send for someone to come give you a good hair cut;)lets hope you find a good hairdresser yet:thumbsup:

I'm even more annoyed as the woman is the sister of a friend, so I couldnt make as much fuss as I would have liked. I just said "its shorter than I wanted"......................and looked sad, seriously pissed off. Still WTF I'm a middle aged fat woman and therefore invisible so no-one will notice anyway :mad:

OnlineCB Sep 12th 2007 7:17 am

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I had my first hair cut last night and small son told me I looked Canadian hahahahaaa OH had his done last week and they put a side part in - he has never had a parting and is "folliclly challenged" so it was even funnier.

OnlineCB Sep 12th 2007 7:19 am

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Originally Posted by batty-x-ray (Post 5303709)
I'm even more annoyed as the woman is the sister of a friend, so I couldnt make as much fuss as I would have liked. I just said "its shorter than I wanted"......................and looked sad, seriously pissed off. Still WTF I'm a middle aged fat woman and therefore invisible so no-one will notice anyway :mad:


OMG you are feeling v sorry for yourself!! She must have really done the job on you!

Can you perk it up with a headband or a bit of a new colour? There's nought to make you more upset than a bad haircut.

Um, guess she didn't get a tip :rofl:

Souvenir Sep 12th 2007 7:22 am

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Originally Posted by batty-x-ray (Post 5303709)
Still WTF I'm a middle aged fat woman and therefore invisible so no-one will notice anyway :mad:

<struggles to restrain himself>

daft batty Sep 12th 2007 8:00 am

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Originally Posted by Souvenir (Post 5303738)
<struggles to restrain himself>

restrain yourself from what Souv?? You're not a chubby chaser are you??? :rofl:

ann m Sep 12th 2007 8:08 am

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Originally Posted by Calgal (Post 5303694)
Having said that, my daughter had a reasonable cut done at "Angles" in West Hills (Calgary) for any locals that may be interested. She listened to what she wanted and actually did it for her.

I reported last week to having, miraculously, found someone that listened to me. That was Angles in Cochrane - ask for Eva. I was delighted.

I was absolutely dreading this, having read all the previous hairdressing threads. Nightmare inducing and not to be read just before bedtime. :eek:

Batty - you have my utmost sympathies - don't know what else to suggest - problem is, once you've had a bad experience, it doesn't exactly fill you with confidence to go back or go somewhere else to get it sorted out !! And if there is not much of it left, it's hard to re-style. Only blessing is that it will be 'hat' weather soon ! Not much help at work though ... big hug :)

snorkmaiden Sep 12th 2007 10:18 am

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Originally Posted by batty-x-ray (Post 5303617)
What is it with hairdressers here? :curse:Why dont they understand that when I say I want my hair cut to shoulder length and layered it means just that?? It doesnt mean shoulder length when my shoulders are all hunched up by my ears!!:curse: Its the second time I have paid for a haircut since I have been here, last time was in October and they cut it far too short then. So this time I thought I wont say "take an inch off" as hairdressers inches are obviously much longer than anyone elses. I thought I'd cracked it by saying shoulder length. Pah, bastards. Do I have to wait till I go back to England on hols to get a decent cut????

God I really sympathise, getting an awful haircut just makes you feel so crap.

I've not had my hair cut here yet and I am dreading it. My sister is a hairdresser in the UK, and as the hairdressers in Texas were also shocking, I would usually wait to have her do the re-style when she was visiting, and then let the hairdressers do a little trim every now and then, but she's not coming over now until next year and I really need my layers put back in.

It's very scary. The hairdressers in Texas were sometimes so bad, I would actually let my hubby trim my layers rather than let them do it as he did a better job, and he is now wonderful at applying colour ;)

daft batty Sep 12th 2007 10:30 am

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OH has come home and says its quite nice......................

joelsa Sep 12th 2007 10:49 am

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Speaking from a purely professional point of view (I am a hairdresser:tounge_smile:). Find some pictures of styles you like, even one of yourself with a haircut you like. At least then she can see exactly the kind of thing you like, and hopefully you'll both be on the same the wavelength.

I hated my first haircut here and ended up cutting myself for a few months. I asked everyone who had a decent haircut where they went. I got the same reply a few times, a local salon. So booked an appointment and went in. I love my latest haircut, she did it really well, and i'm picky i hate to say.

I should open an Brit ex-pats salon shouldn't I? Only trouble is here in Alberta i have to get a licence, which means an exam.

Jo xx

Calgal Sep 12th 2007 10:55 am

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Originally Posted by joelsa (Post 5304343)
I should open an Brit ex-pats salon shouldn't I? Only trouble is here in Alberta i have to get a licence, which means an exam.

Jo xx

Yes you SHOULD!!!! PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE! Exam?! Bet you'd pass with EASE! :thumbsup:

(Can you come round and give mine a trim? ;) )

destinationnovascotia Sep 12th 2007 11:08 am

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I am so dreading finding a hairdresser when I come over. I have really short hair and need to get it precision cut about every 6 weeks. I had the same hairdresser for 20 years and she moved away. It too me a year to find a new one I liked in the UK. Heaven help me in Canada!

ann m Sep 12th 2007 11:09 am

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Originally Posted by batty-x-ray (Post 5304304)
OH has come home and says its quite nice......................

Now how much do you love him today?! Bless - it might even be true Batty, and not nearly as bad as you think.

joelsa - start studying !!! :D

kate white Sep 12th 2007 11:25 am

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Originally Posted by ann m (Post 5304393)
Now how much do you love him today?! Bless - it might even be true Batty, and not nearly as bad as you think.

joelsa - start studying !!! :D

ann has a point we do get use to our old ways (shut up souv) sometimes what we think is bad is not what others see:thumbsup:but Im an old fart what would I know:rofl:
kate

dingbat Sep 12th 2007 11:38 am

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Originally Posted by destinationnovascotia (Post 5304387)
I am so dreading finding a hairdresser when I come over. I have really short hair and need to get it precision cut about every 6 weeks. I had the same hairdresser for 20 years and she moved away. It too me a year to find a new one I liked in the UK. Heaven help me in Canada!

I had my hair cut in England in January. Fantastic job. Just had the style "re-done" at the best local salon. OMG. :curse: I could have done better with a few pints and flymo. Don't ever get it coloured here either. Various shades of Trailer Park Orange (a copyrighted shade in BC), is all you will get.

kate white Sep 12th 2007 11:54 am

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Originally Posted by dingbat (Post 5304453)
I had my hair cut in England in January. Fantastic job. Just had the style "re-done" at the best local salon. OMG. :curse: I could have done better with a few pints and flymo. Don't ever get it coloured here either. Various shades of Trailer Park Orange (a copyrighted shade in BC), is all you will get.

:rofl:shit I will stick to my bum bee tartan then next time Im over:eek:self help is better eh:rofl:

raine66 Sep 12th 2007 11:59 am

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Well I guess I have been very fortunate, I have only had one really bad haircut since I got here, and never went back again.

Since then I have found a really good stylist and colourist, had it done three times so far with them, and have been well pleased.

Hubby on the other hand has been very unfortunate, he has been scalped twice since getting here. Now he has really short hair a #2, so it is pretty hard to get this one wrong, but what can I say, except :eek: :o

I attach herewith photographic evidence for your enjoyment.



yes it was me that done that

ann m Sep 12th 2007 12:29 pm

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Originally Posted by dingbat (Post 5304453)
I could have done better with a few pints and flymo.

:rofl::rofl: That good, huh ?

Various shades of Trailer Park Orange (a copyrighted shade in BC), is all you will get.

Oh, I don't know - there's a lot of Trailer Park Orange here in Alberta too. In fact, this is what I was dreading! I pointed to two women who were standing in the crowd watching the Labour Day parade in town, and whispered to my husband that if I came home the next day looking like that, just shoot me ! So far, my colour is OK - but I am watching carefully after every wash to see what it becomes. Just in case :rofl:

joelsa Sep 12th 2007 2:55 pm

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Originally Posted by ann m (Post 5304592)
Oh, I don't know - there's a lot of Trailer Park Orange here in Alberta too. In fact, this is what I was dreading! I pointed to two women who were standing in the crowd watching the Labour Day parade in town, and whispered to my husband that if I came home the next day looking like that, just shoot me ! So far, my colour is OK - but I am watching carefully after every wash to see what it becomes. Just in case :rofl:

Yeah I've noticed a lot of trailer park orange and various shades of BRASS also. ;)
Luckily i bought enough hair colour with me to see me through until i can go back to the uk and get some more. I can't buy professional strength peroxide here though, unless i have the licence, vicious circle. (Someone kindly offered to get me some, so i'm sorted.) But it kinda made me think the brass and orange toned highlights could may well be the work of an unlicensed "hairdresser".
I'll have to look into passing the exam, i think!

Jo xx

hot wasabi peas Sep 12th 2007 3:02 pm

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Originally Posted by raine66 (Post 5304502)
Hubby on the other hand has been very unfortunate, he has been scalped twice since getting here. Now he has really short hair a #2, so it is pretty hard to get this one wrong, but what can I say, except :eek: :o

I attach herewith photographic evidence for your enjoyment.



yes it was me that done that


:lol: Nice one raine!
I remember when you started a thread about that! :D

northernbird Sep 12th 2007 3:04 pm

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Originally Posted by ann m (Post 5304592)
Oh, I don't know - there's a lot of Trailer Park Orange here in Alberta too. In fact, this is what I was dreading! I pointed to two women who were standing in the crowd watching the Labour Day parade in town, and whispered to my husband that if I came home the next day looking like that, just shoot me ! So far, my colour is OK - but I am watching carefully after every wash to see what it becomes. Just in case :rofl:

when I used to live in Calgary I used to go to an Aveda approved salon and had no such problems with colour and I have always had blonde highlights which were far from brassy and orange.


http://www.divasalonspa.com/contactus.html

Calgal Sep 12th 2007 3:34 pm

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Ahhhh - all becomes clearer now - they list prices on the site:

Stylist

New Talent Cut = $45 (in other words crap?)
Stylist Cut = $55 (Not quite so crap?)
Senior Stylist Cut = $65 (Half decent?)
Master Stylist Cut = $75 (Decent?)
Educator Cut = $85 (No idea what this means - a DIY lesson maybe?..lol)

northernbird Sep 12th 2007 3:36 pm

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Originally Posted by Calgal (Post 5304999)
Ahhhh - all becomes clearer now - they list prices on the site:

Stylist

New Talent Cut = $45 (in other words crap?)
Stylist Cut = $55 (Not quite so crap?)
Senior Stylist Cut = $65 (Half decent?)
Master Stylist Cut = $75 (Decent?)
Educator Cut = $85 (No idea what this means - a DIY lesson maybe?..lol)

As I said, I had no problems in 4 years worth of haircuts.

Calgal Sep 12th 2007 3:40 pm

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 5305004)
As I said, I had no problems in 4 years worth of haircuts.

LOL I was only kidding ;)

Serously - did you have to pay the top price to get those results, or did it not matter which level you went with?

northernbird Sep 12th 2007 3:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Calgal (Post 5305011)
LOL I was only kidding ;)

Serously - did you have to pay the top price to get those results, or did it not matter which level you went with?

I never ever go for the most junior, you are asking for bother as they are more than likely newly qualified and looking for practice. I used to pay around $50 4 years ago so I would imagine I had the Senior Stylist, it is the level I go for here in Australia and the level I would go for in UK too.

hot wasabi peas Sep 12th 2007 3:44 pm

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Originally Posted by Calgal (Post 5304999)
Ahhhh - all becomes clearer now - they list prices on the site:

Stylist

New Talent Cut = $45 (in other words crap?)
Stylist Cut = $55 (Not quite so crap?)
Senior Stylist Cut = $65 (Half decent?)
Master Stylist Cut = $75 (Decent?)
Educator Cut = $85 (No idea what this means - a DIY lesson maybe?..lol)

Egads, yes people. When you make an appointment always ask for a senior/master stylist! Or you just get fobbed-off on the newbee with no clients.

I had some very good cuts and highlights at Josef Saleba salon - in Calgary, 7th St just off 17th Ave, SW.

Edna Bucket Sep 12th 2007 3:47 pm

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ooooh don't you lot get me started. I am so finicky about my hair and have had dozens of crap haircuts. I got so sick of paying $40-$50 for a cut I hated that today I went and got it cut at the esthetic training college. I only paid $12 and although it isn't the best haircut ever at least I don't feel as though I have been robbed of my money.

Calgal Sep 12th 2007 3:52 pm

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Originally Posted by Edna Bucket (Post 5305020)
and have had dozens of crap haircuts.

Oooooh if you're pic is anything to go by - I'm not surprised you're upset, Edna dear! I would be, too! :rofl:

dingbat Sep 12th 2007 3:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Calgal (Post 5304999)
Ahhhh - all becomes clearer now - they list prices on the site:

Stylist

New Talent Cut = $45 (in other words crap?)
Stylist Cut = $55 (Not quite so crap?)
Senior Stylist Cut = $65 (Half decent?)
Master Stylist Cut = $75 (Decent?)
Educator Cut = $85 (No idea what this means - a DIY lesson maybe?..lol)


The Hair Butcherette I went to has these fancy certificates all round her chair space attesting variously to her "Senior Status" and "Advanced" status (her alarmingly advanced levels of fake and bake excepted) and her "Colourist Diploma(s)". She gets to charge the top rate, as a Senior Hair Butcherette. I took a picture in of my haircut from the same magazine that I originally picked it out from in the UK. I went from very long to shoulder length in the UK, but was so pleased with the cut, very easy to maintain after hauling around Crystal Gayle locks for years. The Hair Butcherette of Chilliwack's final offering was a cross between James May and Joan Collins.

Edna Bucket Sep 12th 2007 4:01 pm

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Originally Posted by Calgal (Post 5305029)
Oooooh if you're pic is anything to go by - I'm not surprised you're upset, Edna dear! I would be, too! :rofl:

Yeah I'm suing the sunbed operator too! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Calgal Sep 12th 2007 4:03 pm

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Originally Posted by dingbat (Post 5305034)
The Hair Butcherette I went to has these fancy certificates all round her chair space attesting variously to her "Senior Status" and "Advanced" status (her alarmingly advanced levels of fake and bake excepted) and her "Colourist Diploma(s)". She gets to charge the top rate, as a Senior Hair Butcherette. I took a picture in of my haircut from the same magazine that I originally picked it out from in the UK. I went from very long to shoulder length in the UK, but was so pleased with the cut, very easy to maintain after hauling around Crystal Gayle locks for years. The Hair Butcherette of Chilliwack's final offering was a cross between James May and Joan Collins.


LOL dingbat, you do make me :rofl:

You can add your opinion here if you like (I just found it by accident whilst trying to find a web site for HWP's suggested place).

http://salonratingz.com/index2.jsp

There are about four in Alberta that have been rated so far - three of 'em in Calgary.

Calgal Sep 12th 2007 4:04 pm

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Originally Posted by Edna Bucket (Post 5305045)
Yeah I'm suing the sunbed operator too! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

...I didn't like to mention that - but seeing as you have, I'm very glad to hear it! ;) :lol: What will you do with your millions?

snorkmaiden Sep 12th 2007 4:12 pm

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Originally Posted by joelsa (Post 5304940)
Yeah I've noticed a lot of trailer park orange and various shades of BRASS also. ;)
Luckily i bought enough hair colour with me to see me through until i can go back to the uk and get some more. I can't buy professional strength peroxide here though, unless i have the licence, vicious circle. (Someone kindly offered to get me some, so i'm sorted.) But it kinda made me think the brass and orange toned highlights could may well be the work of an unlicensed "hairdresser".
I'll have to look into passing the exam, i think!

Jo xx

What level of peroxide is considered professional strength? I brought 20 Vol with me from Texas, but my hair hardly needs any lifting at all. I am hoping I can at least get 20 Vol from Sally Beauty Supplies (although I've been watering it down to 10 vol lately) as my sister sends me the tint over (Schwarzkopf Igora Royal- 6-888 extra binging red!!) and I mix it with the peroxide, hand hubby the tint brush and bowl, and let him get on with it :D

Danny B Sep 12th 2007 4:25 pm

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Well if it makes you feel any better the barbers for the blokes are not much better either.

I went into my local barber on Saturday and asked for a grade 2 back and sides and a 4 on top. Don't know why I bothered really as he didn't use the attachments on his clippers and started shaving away.
The thing is, he turned me away from the mirror so that I was facing other customers next in the queue? He was chatting away and was generally a nice bloke but I couldn't help but think he was paying too much attention to my side burns.
He turns me around to face the mirror and I almost laughed out loud, what had he done to my hair. My sides were a grade 1, on top was a mixture of various grades and my sideburns were down to skin about 1" above my ear.
My Wife was in fits of laughter and to add insult to injury he then hoovered my head to suck up all the hair.

Mr Lee Sep 12th 2007 5:01 pm

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In a country where the Farrah Fawcett flick is still de rigeur, what do you expect?

I'm glad I'm not a woman.
I resent paying $15 (including tip) at my local First Choice for an all over #2.
If it was up to me, I'd be off to buy some clippers and saving myself a few bucks in the long run...
But as we men know, it's never really up to us, is it?
Much to the anger of the OH I used to do that in the UK. Eventually I got sick of the moaning and started going to the barbers' again.

The difference is, ladies, that even if you get a haircut that you think is crap, nobody else (including your Significant Other) will notice, much less likely say anything.

Sally Sep 12th 2007 5:08 pm

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Originally Posted by TownieGirl (Post 5303730)

Can you perk it up with a headband or a bit of a new colour?

A Rastafarian cap perhaps? :lol::unsure:

It's a complete lottery here - they just do what they feel like.

And no coffee :frown:


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