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How is it when didning out or in a bar when you pay the waiter/waitress actually ask "do you want change?" when you pay? My usual response is yes and them leave them nothing. I mean what a nerve!! Or am I over reacting?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yeah but no where else in the world do you get that? I just wonder why it's done here..... I dunno; rubs me the wrong way. It's like asking for a tip. Usually one needs to earn it.

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You get it in the States too. It's just a little reminder about the tip. Nothing worth getting worked up about.

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It annoys me sometimes. Like once when I had a bill of $35 and I was paying with a $50. I thought that was a bit cheeky. I didn't not leave a tip, I just rounded down (to the nearest dollar) rather than up which is what I normally do. Somehow I doubt that this small protest was even noticed.

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People live on the tips. They earn it by bringing you food and drink.

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Whats even worse is when they automatically add the tip 15% for a group of 6 or more, even tho you are paying separate bills.. WTF A tip has to be earned not assumed:frown::frown:

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I think a waitress who brings you your dinner has probably earned it.

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I run a fleet of trucks supplying Canada with food stuffs, I dont get tips. Thats a lame reason for tipping...

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It's how it works. You have the option not to eat, an option that will doubtless been chosen for you should you visit the same place twice.

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This sounds like the scene at the beginning of Reservoir Dogs. You appear to be Mr Pink.

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Funny my wife thinks the same. I am used to very good service from Switzerland, so the " Hi Guys I'm Suzy your server tonight" non culture does not wash with me, and until I find a waiter/ess that has a basic grasp of the rudimentary art of their job I wont tip. ie automaticaly refill all the wine glasses, not serve from what ever side they happen to be standing, not clearing the table until the last person has finished ,not giving the bill until its requested, sitting down in our booth for a chat and to rest her feet ???? ( this happened at The Keg.

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Apply that school of thought to doctors, :rofl::rofl: that would cure world over population in a week..

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As usual, it's only the pictures in your post that I understand. If you're in a state where it's customary for the client to pay the doctor and you don't pay, the doctor won't treat you next time or, at best, will treat you grudgingly. This will have no bearing on the number of people in the world.

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If the doctor expects a tip and you dont give one, next time he might not treat you,.. You got it now Einstein:p

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My nan's adage is tip accordingly to those who can do you the most damage.

From My Old Man's a Dustman.

"Some folks give tips at Christmas
And some of them forget
So when he [Lonnie Donegan's father] picks their bins up
He spills some on the steps
Now one old man got nasty
And to the council wrote
Next time my old man went 'round there
He punched him up the throat."

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The analogy fails because doctors aren't paid by tips. The reference to intelligence fails because there was no famously clever man called Einsein. So, in a nutshell, no, I don't really know what you're on about. I do thank you though for the relative lack of graphics in that offering.

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Nor are servers, they get an hourly wage which they expect to be supplemented with tips, regardless of whether they deserve one or not.:p:p Und es tuet mir leid Herr kluegscheisse das ich habe das T vergessen in Einstein:p:rofl::p:blink: genueg fur euch:rofl:

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I'm afraid an analysis of your German, if German it be, will have to wait for Novo's return. That, or a sharp eyed moderators application of the rule against that sort of thing.

The income of someone who waits on tables in Canada is made up of tips to such an extent that the deemed income from tips is taxable whether received or not. It's not the case that the income from tips is a supplement, as it is in the UK, rather it's a basic part of the remuneration for the job. Knowing this, someone who eats in a restaurant and doesn't tip, or doesn't tip adequately, is effectively stealing from the staff.

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1/ You are over reacting.

2/ You are tight.

3/ You'd be pissed off if your bill was 21 and you'd put down 40 and they didn't bring you change. They don't necessarily count out the money right in front of you etc..........

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If you tip just adhoc the service will never improve from what it is today Shite, and I dont pay for Shite, if the foods bad it goes back if the service is Shite no tip. Its not my concern that restaurant staff cant handle out a proper wage from their employers.

Und es tuet mir leid Herr kluegscheisse das ich habe das T vergessen in Einstein genueg fur euch
Translation.
I am very sorry Mister Clever Clogs that I missed the "T" in Einstein:rofl::pthis enough ( refering to the # of pictures)

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There are two people you always pay:

Your bartender and your dentist- both equally adept at alleviating pain.

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There is other factors.

A former associate of mine was a server in downtown. Out of his daily revenue he had to pay 5% to kitchen staff and the busser- people who are not customer facing.

So if he wasn't tipped sufficiently he effectively served a table at a loss.

When large Chinese groups would come in. Not only would they run up a hefty bill of which 5% was noticeable but they would never tip.

It used to drive all the servers nuts when this happened and it was always the short straw.

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Time to get off that high horse of yours, Gremmie.

You live in Manitoba, if I recall correctly. I don't know exactly how many Michelin-starred restaurants there are in Manitoba, nor how many training schools there are for waiting staff, but I'd think not too many.

Don't you think - as a sophisticated European gourmand - that it's a little shabby of you to expect Geneva standards of service from a waitress at Humpty's in the back of beyond, Manitoba?

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Maybe your service is shite because they know you don't tip.

Look it's that tight grumpy English bugger who always starts complaining when his glass is half empty. Let's give him crap service again and some special source on his burger........

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I'm somewhat of a de facto authority on The Keg and I can tell you that it is sometimes company policy, at the discretion of the manager, to have the servers sit down and have a little chat. And given that most of the waiting staff are attractive women in their twenties, I don't think its a policy that most people would find displeasing.

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Again this is the restaurant staffs fault for not demanding a proper wage not the customer's. It has nothing to do with location/ city or expecting any thing unreasonable. Why should just this trade expect to be treated any better than any other, does any one tip the kid that stuffs your grocery bag at Costco ??? Do you tip the woman at the post office for licking the stamp and putting it on the envelope ?? When was the last time any of you went up to the truck driver and gave him a tip for delivering every thing you own. Never.

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Think of it as sales commission for brokering the deal between yourself and the chef and you'll be able to calm down a little.

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Do they let you sit in the bar area or do have to sit in the restaurant side? ;)

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In that case I reserve the right to cut out the middle man:rofl::rofl:

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Did you tip in CH or end up leaving because no one would serve you?

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I tipped coz I got good service, the amount I saw fit to.

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But why do we need reminding? If they've done a good job I tip.

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1/ Probably.

2/ Nope. I just don't need to be reminded to tip. And I do tip all the time.

3/ My son recently had a $8 meal and the waitress asked him if he needed change from the $20. That's trying it on no?

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[QUOTE=Gremmie;9553496]In that case I reserve the right to cut out the middle man:rofl::rofl:[/

Quote from "Gremmie" on the Sirius/Radio 1 thread: "Me Trolling look at all the new member "trolls' who have joined just to say they are pissed at Sirius but no other topic is of interest to them, not even London Burning, and lets look at you 'trolling" on about how you miss your radio 1, we got the message the first time. get a life ,or better yet get a CD and listen to that."


This ex-pat new member joined the forum a couple of days back, and from a twitter link to the Sirius/Radio 1 thread. Since then i have been quietly reading a number of other threads in the background - most of which start informatively enough, until what appears to be a hardened core of forum bullies start to weigh-in with their rude and ignorant opinions.

Seriously? If you truly have "heard it all before", then why stick around to insult the legitimate questions from new posters with your "witty" one line-retorts?

Frankly I'm appalled and embarrassed to be branded a Brit ex-pat like you, or the clown sharing his/her opinions re: libraries in another thread in this very forum.

If this is the kind of opinion that this board is actively looking to attract and encourage, then I fear i (and no doubt many like me) are in the wrong place.

Oh, and for the record, we got YOUR message the first time.

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The Maple Leaf forum is full of irony, sarcasm, irreverence, BS, wind-ups and bait.

Try not to take it too seriously.

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I was having a conversation with one of my work colleagues, he used to be wait staff and we got on the subject of tips. He said he always asked what the tipout was before leaving a tip.

I asked what he meant as it sounds like it's different to what I experienced in the uk where the wait staff paid (it was either 3p or 5p) per plate to the kitchen.

Here the wait staff/bar staff are expected to pay between 5% and 10% of their sales to the kitchen/non tip making staff. It surprised me as it's the same as in England, the wait staff are paid the lowest as they have higher tip earning potential and then the chefs get paid most. I think the pot washer needs to be paid as much as the chef - no clean pots - chef can't cook - no one gets served:blink:

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1/ Definately

2/ You said you didn't tip and now you do?

3/ I've seen the wallets they use they don't check when they take it. Your son has picked up your bad habit.