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Alan2005 Mar 24th 2010 3:31 am

American Right Wingers
 
Now, conservatives that I'm used to here and in the UK are generally ordinary people. The politicians on the left / right might have different policies to each other, they might well be self serving; but usually you wouldn't say they were mentally ill.

The americans on the other hand are madder than a barrel of rabid monkeys on acid. This Ann Coutler women for instance - I can't think of any other way to describe her other than batshit crazy.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs...rticle1510468/

dbd33 Mar 24th 2010 3:37 am

Re: American Right Wingers
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8444681)
Now, conservatives that I'm used to here and in the UK are generally ordinary people. The politicians on the left / right might have different policies to each other, they might well be self serving; but usually you wouldn't say they were mentally ill.

The americans on the other hand are madder than a barrel of rabid monkeys on acid. This Ann Coutler women for instance - I can't think of any other way to describe her other than batshit crazy.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs...rticle1510468/

I offer the postings of airbornesapper as refutation of the idea that there's a difference between the far right in the US and in the UK. I think you will find there all the elements the characterise the American far right; spluttering incoherence, indiscriminate hatred, faulty logic and an inability to reconcile daily reality with ideologically driven perception; a military man for small government is an example of the latter contradiction.

I don't think Ann Coulter is any more bonkers than Jan Moir.

Oink Mar 24th 2010 3:47 am

Re: American Right Wingers
 
There're bonkers people everywhere, especially when it comes to national political opinion, take for instance British working class conservatism which raised such a nasty spectre over the 1980s. That said, I have to agree with Alan, the American version is a rather more virulent and disturbing strain.

Alan2005 Mar 24th 2010 3:51 am

Re: American Right Wingers
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8444695)
I offer the postings of airbornesapper as refutation of the idea that there's a difference between the far right in the US and in the UK. I think you will find there all the elements the characterise the American far right; spluttering incoherence, indiscriminate hatred, faulty logic and an inability to reconcile daily reality with ideologically driven perception; a military man for small government is an example of the latter contradiction.

I don't think Ann Coulter is any more bonkers than Jan Moir.

My favourite contradiction was somebody describing themselves as a "Conservative Libertarian" where the rule of law comes from God. That was that crazy guy on fox news - Glenn Beck I think.

Yes, you get hatred everywhere. I guess I should have added a disclaimer based on my opinion being formed watching jon stewart.

iaink Mar 24th 2010 3:52 am

Re: American Right Wingers
 
I think its the overwhelming conviction that God is one of them (US Right wing) that I find most objectionable (of many objectionable things)


On the other hand the fuss over Ann Coulter was ridiculous. Let the woman speak.















Then arrest her for hate crimes:sneaky:

I suppose the university chap was just trying to cover his arse. That didnt work out too well for him:eek:

Jingsamichty Mar 24th 2010 3:56 am

Re: American Right Wingers
 
Right-wingers love to rant, that's probably their most endearing quality. But they're usually too busy apoplecting to understand that if everyone did indeed think the way they do, there would be nothing left to rant at, and they would disappear in a puff of self-righteous smoke. They need to be angry at something, it's their raison d'etre.

Stoke 'em up, say I. Encourage them to get all fired up, with pumping fists and whooping. Toss in a few comments like "Yeah! Damn Chinese!", or "Stinkin' Arabs!" or "Healthcare commies!" and watch 'em go. Like a greyhound chasing its tail...

Alan2005 Mar 24th 2010 3:58 am

Re: American Right Wingers
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8444744)
I think its the overwhelming conviction that God is one of them (US Right wing) that I find most objectionable (of many objectionable things)

On the other hand the fuss over Ann Coulter was ridiculous. Let the woman speak.
Then arrest her for hate crimes:sneaky:

I suppose the university chap was just trying to cover his arse. That didnt work out too well for him:eek:

You have to wonder why they invited her in the first place. Though in his position I'd have let her speak as it's really quite easy to debate with people that are believers.

Oink Mar 24th 2010 3:58 am

Re: American Right Wingers
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8444736)
My favourite contradiction was somebody describing themselves as a "Conservative Libertarian" where the rule of law comes from God. That was that crazy guy on fox news - Glenn Beck I think.

Yes, you get hatred everywhere. I guess I should have added a disclaimer based on my opinion being formed watching jon stewart.

It's quite surprising how prevalent these type of nonsensical ramblings are in the wider American culture. Their basic ideology is a cauldron of; shinning city on the hillism, racism, basic hated, Cold War indoctrination and a misunderstanding of classical economic theory, mixed with personal shame and LSD and you end up with contradictory Glenn Beckism.

Alan2005 Mar 24th 2010 3:59 am

Re: American Right Wingers
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8444725)
There're bonkers people everywhere, especially when it comes to national political opinion, take for instance British working class conservatism which raised such a nasty spectre over the 1980s. That said, I have to agree with Alan, the American version is a rather more virulent and disturbing strain.

That, and the fact they seem to get on the telly a lot.

Oink Mar 24th 2010 4:03 am

Re: American Right Wingers
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8444770)
That, and the fact they seem to get on the telly a lot.

The major problem I find with Ann Coulter, is that I can never decide whether I would.

Almost Canadian Mar 24th 2010 4:06 am

Re: American Right Wingers
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8444763)
You have to wonder why they invited her in the first place. Though in his position I'd have let her speak as it's really quite easy to debate with people that are believers.


She is speaking in Calgary soon. How much flaming will Albertans get for that?:rofl::p

dbd33 Mar 24th 2010 4:15 am

Re: American Right Wingers
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8444763)
Though in his position I'd have let her speak as it's really quite easy to debate with people that are believers.

Perhaps she could debate with George Galloway, in Buffalo or San Pierre Miquelon, some place convenient to Canada but not actually in Canada. Controversial opinions aren't welcome here.

Alan2005 Mar 24th 2010 4:17 am

Re: American Right Wingers
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8444777)
The major problem I find with Ann Coulter, is that I can never decide whether I would.

She's what viz would call a low resolution fox.


Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8444810)
Perhaps she could debate with George Galloway, in Buffalo or San Pierre Miquelon, some place convenient to Canada but not actually in Canada. Controversial opinions aren't welcome here.

I'd forgotten about him. They didn't even let him in the country.

Jingsamichty Mar 24th 2010 4:25 am

Re: American Right Wingers
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8444777)
The major problem I find with Ann Coulter, is that I can never decide whether I would.

I didn't know who this particular lady was so I Googled her. Yikes.

snowbunny Mar 24th 2010 4:27 am

Re: American Right Wingers
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8444777)
The major problem I find with Ann Coulter, is that I can never decide whether I would.

Have you considered "her" Adam's apple?


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