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Re: Am I the only person sick of Lance Armstrong?
Perhaps Armstrong should be allowed to compete. When thousands of roadside fans call him a cheat and the networks treat him with disdain rather than praise, the message may get through to him that he is a considered a loser. Without the drugs, and with widespread antipathy towards his efforts, he probably would not win any new races in the first place.
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Re: Am I the only person sick of Lance Armstrong?
I now have as many Tour de France wins as Lance Armstrong.
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Re: Am I the only person sick of Lance Armstrong?
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 10493145)
.... or the news.
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Re: Am I the only person sick of Lance Armstrong?
Originally Posted by orly
(Post 10495547)
See plenty of news...but that's the point. Real news, not the melodrama of some cheating clown.
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Re: Am I the only person sick of Lance Armstrong?
Suing people aside, if all his competitors doped as well (it appears that they did) did he "cheat"?
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Re: Am I the only person sick of Lance Armstrong?
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10496452)
Suing people aside, if all his competitors doped as well (it appears that they did) did he "cheat"?
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Re: Am I the only person sick of Lance Armstrong?
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10496452)
Suing people aside, if all his competitors doped as well (it appears that they did) did he "cheat"?
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Re: Am I the only person sick of Lance Armstrong?
Originally Posted by Mikeypm
(Post 10496459)
He did cheat, but I suppose its that he cheated the fans and the general tour de france watching public. He did not cheat his fellow riders as it would appear they were all up to it.
It seems that every few months there is a "scandal" of improper substance use in top level sports. I say allow anything that people are prepared to take and let the consequences play out. Is endurance training at altitude "cheating"? If not, why not? |
Re: Am I the only person sick of Lance Armstrong?
Originally Posted by Mikeypm
(Post 10496459)
He did cheat, but I suppose its that he cheated the fans and the general tour de france watching public. He did not cheat his fellow riders as it would appear they were all up to it.
The public don't care, professional sports are all about drugs and cheating, people still want to see a new home run record or Manchester United winning no matter how it comes about. |
Re: Am I the only person sick of Lance Armstrong?
I found this bit of the article by Paul Kimmage in the Guardian priceless...
In the autumn of 1993, Greg LeMond and his wife, Kathy, were sitting at home in the suburbs of Minneapolis, when they received a visit from Linda Mooneyham, the three-times Tour de France winner has recalled. Her 21-year-old son, Lance Armstrong, had just become the world champion and she had travelled from her home in Texas for advice. "What does he do now?" she asked. "What does he do with his money?" "Well, let him find an agent – a good one with an attorney," LeMond replied. "And one word of advice – just be his mom." They sat on the porch for a while and then moved inside to the kitchen. Linda had something else on her mind: "How do I make him less of an asshole. He doesn't care about anyone." "Well," LeMond replied. "I can't help you there." |
Re: Am I the only person sick of Lance Armstrong?
Saw something that made me laugh, it went something like .... how do you think we are getting new world records on a regular basis, drugs or the fact that the human race is evolving at such a rate that performance is increasing exponentially ?
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Re: Am I the only person sick of Lance Armstrong?
Originally Posted by Tangram
(Post 10496630)
Saw something that made me laugh, it went something like .... how do you think we are getting new world records on a regular basis, drugs or the fact that the human race is evolving at such a rate that performance is increasing exponentially ?
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Re: Am I the only person sick of Lance Armstrong?
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 10496663)
For many sports it's logarithmically rather than exponentially.
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Re: Am I the only person sick of Lance Armstrong?
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10496484)
But, do the fans really care?
It seems that every few months there is a "scandal" of improper substance use in top level sports. I say allow anything that people are prepared to take and let the consequences play out. Is endurance training at altitude "cheating"? If not, why not? |
Re: Am I the only person sick of Lance Armstrong?
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 10496714)
It's not that he cheated - it's that he cheated dishonourably.
Linford Christie; Carl Lewis; Ben Johnson? |
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