Allergic kids vs kids without allergies at school
#31
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Its not entirely clear (in the best traditions of canadian journalism) if any of these reactions were occurring at the school, but it they were it seems reasonable to argue that the safe area is not safe enough because she was still exposed to the triggers in the school environment. Certainly this child is not just allegic on the basis of a scratch test.
All Im saying here is this is no different to what went on regarding peanut allergies not so very long ago, and now we live in a supposedly peanut free educational environment
#32
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Re: Allergic kids vs kids without allergies at school
You dont think maybe she tried that already? There are all sorts of steps to take in a dispute with the school or board before you get to the nuclear option of the human rights tribunal
It seems empathy is in short supply here. I wouldnt fancy being in her shoes not knowing if my kids was going to leave the school in a big yellow bus or a shiney white ambulance.
It seems empathy is in short supply here. I wouldnt fancy being in her shoes not knowing if my kids was going to leave the school in a big yellow bus or a shiney white ambulance.
She wants her kid to have all her friends suffer along with her, and their parents have to feed their kids the way she has to feed hers. That's just controlling assholic BS.
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Re: Allergic kids vs kids without allergies at school
http://content.time.com/time/health/...869095,00.html
There's even some evidence to suggest that establishing nut-free zones or nut-free schools may be detrimental to children's health, and increases their risk of developing nut allergies.
Read more: Have Americans Gone Nuts Over Nut Allergies? - TIME http://content.time.com/time/health/...#ixzz2qgDaeyGQ
There's even some evidence to suggest that establishing nut-free zones or nut-free schools may be detrimental to children's health, and increases their risk of developing nut allergies.
Read more: Have Americans Gone Nuts Over Nut Allergies? - TIME http://content.time.com/time/health/...#ixzz2qgDaeyGQ
#34
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You can just picture the poor husband being forced to strip naked in the porch when he comes home, while she's screeching "I can smell the smoke and booze reek on your clothes from here!"
#36
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http://content.time.com/time/health/...869095,00.html
There's even some evidence to suggest that establishing nut-free zones or nut-free schools may be detrimental to children's health, and increases their risk of developing nut allergies.
Read more: Have Americans Gone Nuts Over Nut Allergies? - TIME http://content.time.com/time/health/...#ixzz2qgDaeyGQ
There's even some evidence to suggest that establishing nut-free zones or nut-free schools may be detrimental to children's health, and increases their risk of developing nut allergies.
Read more: Have Americans Gone Nuts Over Nut Allergies? - TIME http://content.time.com/time/health/...#ixzz2qgDaeyGQ
#37
Re: Allergic kids vs kids without allergies at school
http://content.time.com/time/health/...869095,00.html
There's even some evidence to suggest that establishing nut-free zones or nut-free schools may be detrimental to children's health, and increases their risk of developing nut allergies.
Read more: Have Americans Gone Nuts Over Nut Allergies? - TIME http://content.time.com/time/health/...#ixzz2qgDaeyGQ
There's even some evidence to suggest that establishing nut-free zones or nut-free schools may be detrimental to children's health, and increases their risk of developing nut allergies.
Read more: Have Americans Gone Nuts Over Nut Allergies? - TIME http://content.time.com/time/health/...#ixzz2qgDaeyGQ
Its a problem, and it could well be that lack of exposure is one trigger to future generations becoming affected. But if your kid is the one in danger I suspect you dont really give a rats ass about that.
#38
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I dont understand all the character assassination going on here, extending to fanciful theories of how she treats her husband (if she even has one). Its detracting from the central issue which is I guess the question of at what point should society start to become inconvenienced in order to accommodate the needs of a vulnerable minority.
#39
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"At just six years old, Elodie Glover has already dealt with nine bouts of anaphylactic shock, so her mother decided it was too risky to keep her in school and pulled her out."
Its not entirely clear (in the best traditions of canadian journalism) if any of these reactions were occurring at the school, but it they were it seems reasonable to argue that the safe area is not safe enough because she was still exposed to the triggers in the school environment. Certainly this child is not just allegic on the basis of a scratch test.
All Im saying here is this is no different to what went on regarding peanut allergies not so very long ago, and now we live in a supposedly peanut free educational environment
Its not entirely clear (in the best traditions of canadian journalism) if any of these reactions were occurring at the school, but it they were it seems reasonable to argue that the safe area is not safe enough because she was still exposed to the triggers in the school environment. Certainly this child is not just allegic on the basis of a scratch test.
All Im saying here is this is no different to what went on regarding peanut allergies not so very long ago, and now we live in a supposedly peanut free educational environment
#40
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However, the board has policies on place that should mean she shouldnt have to be worried sick to send her kid to school, only they dont seem to work do they. Hence the tribunal to make them follow their own rules, or at least decide for us what is “every reasonable effort”.
Last edited by iaink; Jan 17th 2014 at 5:33 pm.
#41
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I haven't even read the story... this is the great thing about BE, you can just wade right in and stick the boot into someone without knowing a single fact.
#43
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Fred drifting ever so slightly.....a teacher of my acquaintance had a new colleague start at her school. Well, I say start at her school, but actually she hasn't yet. Said teacher has a severe scent allergy apparently. So severe that the School Board had to remove all cleaning materials - soap, hand sanitiser, cleaning products - from the school before she could start after the holidays. The idea was, presumably to replace them with scent free products but the execution was flawed as they were not replaced before school started. So for a number of weeks the school had no cleaning products on hand. For a building with 400 kids in it. The teacher, with the severe allergy? She's not yet been well enough to start her new position at the school.
Madness I tell you. On the subject of scent allergy, it seems to be a uniquely Canadian thing in my experience. This no scent zone thing. Not something one sees back in the UK or even in the US for that matter.
Madness I tell you. On the subject of scent allergy, it seems to be a uniquely Canadian thing in my experience. This no scent zone thing. Not something one sees back in the UK or even in the US for that matter.
#44
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An epipen buys you maybe 20 minutes to get to emerg and serious medical intervention. They are affected by temperature and exposure to sunlight, so may not always work effectively. In something like 1 in 5 cases a second shot is required in any case to prevent immediate cardiac arrest.
What Im saying is its a numbers game and sooner or later your luck in an allergic attack might run out. 200 kids a year still die of peanut allergies. But maybe thats a drop in the bucket compared to drownings or car crashes so we should just not give a shit.