http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stor...-discount.html

Not the greatest coverage but may be of use for a few!

So AC finally announce the name and route network of it's new low cost start up:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...-discount.html

Any thoughts on the proposed route network? Or name?

Must say I was hoping for more UK destinations to compete with Air Transat. Manchester or Birmingham perhaps.

Having only a French name seems a bit unfair too, and likely to attract some controversy,

lol I just posted this in the maple leaf. Mods can you remove one of them?

No problem... threads merged.

As for a french name, I read it as Rogue

Just looked on the AC website at the cabin spec for the 767's to be used on the European flights.

Interesting line for inflight entertainment:

Wireless streaming of movies and more, direct to your personal electronic device.
Final program details and pricing will be communicated prior to first flight in July 2013.

Not come across this before.

If it's the dreamliners I read some damning reports about the aircraft already!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20716997

The 767 is a different beast to a 787.

20 different in fact

Looking at the introductory pricing, I think that's how most people will come to know this airline

My bad! Quote from the original article on CBC.

"Eventually, Rouge will expand to 50 planes as Air Canada begins to take delivery of its new Boeing 787 Dreamliners in 2014."

They aren't using 787s. The 20 year old 767s will be cascaded down into the Rogue fleet (likely after a very small cabin refurbishment) as the 787s join the 'proper' AC fleet.

Is there a route map of where they plan to fly?

Hopefully they will tap into the demand for a Fort McMurray-Norwich direct route.

Wouldn't that compete with their other offshoot, Jizz.

Don't think that their introductory route network warrants the time and effort of creating a map:

http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/rouge.html

I priced the new Toronto-Edinburgh route (which requires a connection with any other airline you'd deal with) just to get an idea and I'm tickled that it took the creation of a "low cost" arm for Air Canada to compete with every other normal airline's fares. But at least there's no connecting.

If I even the playing field and test out the route that is relevant to me, Montreal-Edinburgh (always requires a connection somewhere with any airline) going via this new low cost route from Toronto is still more expensive than going with some other airlines. In fact, I found cheaper Air Canada codeshare routes on Expedia and the brilliant part is that the AC website itself doesn't seem to give those as an option any more. Hopeless.


I find AC's pricing to be pretty wild if there's little or no competition on the route. One time I worked out it was about $200 cheaper to do Montreal-Vancouver-Seattle than it was to just fly Montreal-Vancouver on the same flight.

Problem with doing this is, that if you didn't do the Vancouver - Seattle leg, your return flights usually get cancelled automatically. A clause of the ticket is usually that all flight segments have to be done in a specific order - you can't skip segments.

I agree, AC's pricing is ridiculous and I too have found and booked codeshare flights through Star Alliance partners significantly cheaper than the advertised AC price.