Accents, pronunciation, Canadianisms
#76
Re: Accents, pronunciation, Canadianisms
Think in Tim Hortons it is because they are in some kind of weird auto pilot. I find if I ask for everything in one go, they still ask me questions I have already provided the answer for.
How hard is it -
"Hello Mr Tim Hortons 'barista'. A small black coffee please".
"Will that be medium or large?'.
"Erm... no, it will be a sodding small one, like I just said, thank you".
"Ok. Anything in it?".
"WTF?". My standard answer now, with a smile plastered on my face, is "No just coffee"... cue fake laughter for all concerned.
I did used to think it was my accent, but this exchange has been repeated in various branches. I have never yet had a problem with Starbucks, Second Cup or any of the local coffee places.
How hard is it -
"Hello Mr Tim Hortons 'barista'. A small black coffee please".
"Will that be medium or large?'.
"Erm... no, it will be a sodding small one, like I just said, thank you".
"Ok. Anything in it?".
"WTF?". My standard answer now, with a smile plastered on my face, is "No just coffee"... cue fake laughter for all concerned.
I did used to think it was my accent, but this exchange has been repeated in various branches. I have never yet had a problem with Starbucks, Second Cup or any of the local coffee places.
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Re: Accents, pronunciation, Canadianisms
I think that you are right with the auto pilot but I would also throw in familiarity with certain phrases and words.
When I deliver to certain Petrol stations we are supposed to let the staff know that we are here ( as if I can sneak in!) and they are supposed to come out and watch the tank dip. Unless they are the only person there in which case they cant leave the shop.
I had to change the way in which I asked them.
Yon Yown?
Are ya on yerown?
ARE YOU ON YOUR OWN?
FFS ARRREEEE YYOOUUUUU BYY YOUUURR SEEEELLLFFF? Yuh why?
When I deliver to certain Petrol stations we are supposed to let the staff know that we are here ( as if I can sneak in!) and they are supposed to come out and watch the tank dip. Unless they are the only person there in which case they cant leave the shop.
I had to change the way in which I asked them.
Yon Yown?
Are ya on yerown?
ARE YOU ON YOUR OWN?
FFS ARRREEEE YYOOUUUUU BYY YOUUURR SEEEELLLFFF? Yuh why?
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Re: Accents, pronunciation, Canadianisms
I think that you are right with the auto pilot but I would also throw in familiarity with certain phrases and words.
When I deliver to certain Petrol stations we are supposed to let the staff know that we are here ( as if I can sneak in!) and they are supposed to come out and watch the tank dip. Unless they are the only person there in which case they cant leave the shop.
I had to change the way in which I asked them.
Yon Yown?
Are ya on yerown?
ARE YOU ON YOUR OWN?
FFS ARRREEEE YYOOUUUUU BYY YOUUURR SEEEELLLFFF? Yuh why?
When I deliver to certain Petrol stations we are supposed to let the staff know that we are here ( as if I can sneak in!) and they are supposed to come out and watch the tank dip. Unless they are the only person there in which case they cant leave the shop.
I had to change the way in which I asked them.
Yon Yown?
Are ya on yerown?
ARE YOU ON YOUR OWN?
FFS ARRREEEE YYOOUUUUU BYY YOUUURR SEEEELLLFFF? Yuh why?
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Re: Accents, pronunciation, Canadianisms
I needed a French speaking Physics tutor, and did eventually track one down. The neighbours of course wanted to know, who he was, his entire life history...etc. this is NB and not much happens....so I told them he was an engineer from Bathurst. Quite a while later they asked me if everyone from Ireland (they had several tries at the word) speaks French? They thought I'd been talking about Belfast! I can't say 'Bath', evidently. I'd even been waiving my hands and saying 'Northern Coast' and they still had no clue...it chips away at the self confidence though!
I won't go to Subway or Pitta Pit, it's just too bloody stressful, I went in there with a NZ friend and we about brought the place to a standstill. Somedays I can see an amusing side, but others it's just, tiring and stupid...they need newcomers in Atlantic Canada, but if every one of us is going to have to explain our life story in order to get a wholewheat roll they will ultimately give up.
I have lived successfully in a number of societies where I have been happy and accepted...I tend to feel that my sense of isolation here is a 'their' problem, not a 'my' problem now, and perhaps they should address their small minded insularity at some point.
When I get bored I go and talk to myself in the Mirrow.
I won't go to Subway or Pitta Pit, it's just too bloody stressful, I went in there with a NZ friend and we about brought the place to a standstill. Somedays I can see an amusing side, but others it's just, tiring and stupid...they need newcomers in Atlantic Canada, but if every one of us is going to have to explain our life story in order to get a wholewheat roll they will ultimately give up.
I have lived successfully in a number of societies where I have been happy and accepted...I tend to feel that my sense of isolation here is a 'their' problem, not a 'my' problem now, and perhaps they should address their small minded insularity at some point.
When I get bored I go and talk to myself in the Mirrow.
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I needed a French speaking Physics tutor, and did eventually track one down. The neighbours of course wanted to know, who he was, his entire life history...etc. this is NB and not much happens....so I told them he was an engineer from Bathurst. Quite a while later they asked me if everyone from Ireland (they had several tries at the word) speaks French? They thought I'd been talking about Belfast! I can't say 'Bath', evidently. I'd even been waiving my hands and saying 'Northern Coast' and they still had no clue...it chips away at the self confidence though!
I won't go to Subway or Pitta Pit, it's just too bloody stressful, I went in there with a NZ friend and we about brought the place to a standstill. Somedays I can see an amusing side, but others it's just, tiring and stupid...they need newcomers in Atlantic Canada, but if every one of us is going to have to explain our life story in order to get a wholewheat roll they will ultimately give up.
I have lived successfully in a number of societies where I have been happy and accepted...I tend to feel that my sense of isolation here is a 'their' problem, not a 'my' problem now, and perhaps they should address their small minded insularity at some point.
When I get bored I go and talk to myself in the Mirrow.
I won't go to Subway or Pitta Pit, it's just too bloody stressful, I went in there with a NZ friend and we about brought the place to a standstill. Somedays I can see an amusing side, but others it's just, tiring and stupid...they need newcomers in Atlantic Canada, but if every one of us is going to have to explain our life story in order to get a wholewheat roll they will ultimately give up.
I have lived successfully in a number of societies where I have been happy and accepted...I tend to feel that my sense of isolation here is a 'their' problem, not a 'my' problem now, and perhaps they should address their small minded insularity at some point.
When I get bored I go and talk to myself in the Mirrow.
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Re: Accents, pronunciation, Canadianisms
Never have so few words summed up my situation to a 'T'. There are some really super people here who feel empassioned about this place growing and I feel that one needs to be optimistic, but that's as a middle aged, middle class Brit, how in hell these blinkered and backward attitudes would make a Korean or anybody of colour feel, I shudder to think...and yes there are places that are completely colour blind and welcoming to every difference in Canada - but not here in NB.
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Re: Accents, pronunciation, Canadianisms
http://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4516303
I hope this link works. I'm always a little unsure.
We have welcomed more newcomers than many other Provinces. The problem is how we ultimately treat them once we've got them here. We can't keep them because we make them feel less than welcome.
I hope this link works. I'm always a little unsure.
We have welcomed more newcomers than many other Provinces. The problem is how we ultimately treat them once we've got them here. We can't keep them because we make them feel less than welcome.
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Re: Accents, pronunciation, Canadianisms
http://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4516303
I hope this link works. I'm always a little unsure.
We have welcomed more newcomers than many other Provinces. The problem is how we ultimately treat them once we've got them here. We can't keep them because we make them feel less than welcome.
I hope this link works. I'm always a little unsure.
We have welcomed more newcomers than many other Provinces. The problem is how we ultimately treat them once we've got them here. We can't keep them because we make them feel less than welcome.
#86
Re: Accents, pronunciation, Canadianisms
Edited to add
A quick google on racism schools ontario suggests the same thing in schools and Universities there.
Perhaps this is one of those complaints that blights everywhere?
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Re: Accents, pronunciation, Canadianisms
Regrettably yes I fear...so back on topic...I will resort to my 'mirrow' for a response! Why would the word mirror be such a challenge? The Mall remains a constant irritant..for me...I just can't make the right sound... I live opposite Edinburugh Street...now that gives them lots of challenges...as does Connaught Street, where our nearest primary school is...knickers in a twist over how to say it is a daily debate...
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Re: Accents, pronunciation, Canadianisms
That's what I go for...but it grates!