It's like Intel only without the reasoning.

Agreed! This is how it should be dealt with, and the cop in Toronto was equally as impressive in how he handled that nut job....he wasn't giving him what he wanted.... "suicide by cop" the way the cop conducted himself was very brave and commendable.

The US has become a monster when it comes to guns now, I am not anti guns as such, but the gun control laws there are plain ridiculous, thats why cops are so trigger happy...shoot first, ask questions later, survivalist I guess, but it doesn't make it right, especially when certain scenarios where suspects are shot could be avoided.

Yes, I agree to a point, its like I have said in my other post, the US has become such a monster when it comes to gun laws now....that many cops have to be this way to survive....but there are still too many trigger happy ones out there, but then the media does like to over hype those cases too.

You have done everything you can to try and bring racial tension and religious extremism into this despite the fact there is zero evidence to support the outlandish arguments you have so far tried to portray as "keeping an open mind".

The tragedy really does portray the demographic of Toronto when you look at the diversity of the poor victims.

It's an interesting part of town as they originally wanted to make a second Downtown and it went eery. In recent years a lot of condo's have gone in that are actually affordable and now they are looking at doing a lot more generation there. Not far East and West are some quite nice homes so it really is a blend of incomes/wealth & young/old!

A few people have said this and it's easy to say now.

But what if it was the wrong person? Or there was an organised attack on Toronto and there was potential intel from the guy? Lastly as much as I liked reading Judge Dredd I'm not comfortable with police acting as judge, jury and executioner particularly in the heat of the moment.

There are claims he wrote something on a facebook page. I have also read though that that page was set up by someone after the fact.

It was known he had mental health problems and also he was bullied a lot growing up. He also was in the Army but had to leave after two months.

Anyway it happens. What I've found disappointing is the fund giving after the fact?

I also remember when Lec-Megantic happened and no one else on my social media feeds really seemed to care?

The out poor of grief and money for Humboldt was exponentially greater.

Here is the link to donate:

https://www.gofundme.com/torontovanattack

Are you illiterate? The context of my post that it was too early to tell, was that if it was an attack, potential Arabs or Muslims would be victims, not perpetrators.

You have this habit of not reading other people's posts in entirety or thoroughly, and then responding to what you wish or thought other people had written instead of what they have actually written.

How very lovely of you to pay such attention to my posts.

And how lovely of you to pay attention to mine! So we'll just leave it at this. Enjoy your day and will look forwards to crossing paths with you in another thread.

$5 on bats.

If it was "too early to tell," as you so kindly pointed out, then why did you bother to speculate in such an unfounded way? What did it actually add to anybody's understanding of the situation, except that you were jumping to conclusions based on absolutely no evidence except the sign on a shop in the neighbourhood where the incident occurred?

As it happens, it becomes increasingly clear that there was no racial or religious motivation behind it. So not only was your speculation unhelpful, it was wholly inaccurate.

But thanks for playing.

And then there's the fact that Intel used to produce Celeron microchips.

I hate celery

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/3...hooting-death/

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...d=mailsignoutm

Hmm... I stand corrected, but I still think the Sammy Yatim case was the bench mark with regards to over zealous use of a fire arm by a police officer.

Generally speaking I guess Canada is somewhere between the UK and the states, which are the two ends of the scale.

I would say the British police force has some of the best trained fire arms officers in the world, mainly owing to the fact its still a specialist division to the rest of the police.

Drifting the thread a little further to the subject of Sammy Yatim's death: today's news is that James Forcillo's appeal was dismissed. His conviction - and sentence - were upheld.

I hadn't realized that he'd been in prison pending his appeal. He was bailed initially after his sentencing hearing in late 2016 but breached his bail conditions (moved house, away from his now-ex-wife's place and in with his new fiancee) without getting the proper permissions first. That really does smack of a contempt for the law that I'm rather pleased has come back to bite him. Having been suspended without pay pending his appeal, I imagine he will now be dismissed from the police service as well. I can't muster up much sympathy for him, I'm afraid.