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Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
Originally Posted by Jsmth321
(Post 12676148)
I only drove the 401 once through Toronto and that was enough for me.
Isn't it the busiest freeway in North America? Brilliant photo of it on this article - and actually it's the busiest highway in the world! http://livetrucking.com/this-north-a...-in-the-world/ http://livetrucking.com/wp-content/u...2016/06/tr.png https://2ndchanceautoinsurance.ca/40...north-america/ Known as King’s Highway 401, the freeway also goes by its official name of the Macdonald–Cartier Freeway. A 400-Series Highway in the Canadian province of Ontario, the 401 stretches from Windsor to the Quebec border. The segment of Highway 401 passing through Toronto is not only the busiest highway in North America but also one of the widest and busiest in the world. .... the annual average daily traffic (AADT) count between Weston Road and Highway 400 in Toronto was estimated at 431,900. On some days, the number exceeds 500,000 vehicles..... |
Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
The 400 going up to Barrie used to be a real bad one in the 70's, not just because of traffic, but because it was a 2 lane road when they could have used twice the space or even more. Often, when someone had an accident they'd have 50 strangers join in, in a deadly chain-reaction.
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Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
And people say LA has bad traffic....lol
Originally Posted by Siouxie
(Post 12676161)
It is indeed!
Brilliant photo of it on this article - and actually it's the busiest highway in the world! This North American highway was named the "busiest road in the world" http://livetrucking.com/wp-content/u...2016/06/tr.png https://2ndchanceautoinsurance.ca/40...north-america/ Known as King’s Highway 401, the freeway also goes by its official name of the Macdonald–Cartier Freeway. A 400-Series Highway in the Canadian province of Ontario, the 401 stretches from Windsor to the Quebec border. The segment of Highway 401 passing through Toronto is not only the busiest highway in North America but also one of the widest and busiest in the world. .... the annual average daily traffic (AADT) count between Weston Road and Highway 400 in Toronto was estimated at 431,900. On some days, the number exceeds 500,000 vehicles..... |
Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
Originally Posted by caretaker
(Post 12676208)
The 400 going up to Barrie used to be a real bad one in the 70's, not just because of traffic, but because it was a 2 lane road when they could have used twice the space or even more. Often, when someone had an accident they'd have 50 strangers join in, in a deadly chain-reaction.
https://goo.gl/maps/edEDAMusK7E5wkv39 |
Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
Originally Posted by Siouxie
(Post 12676161)
It is indeed!
Brilliant photo of it on this article - and actually it's the busiest highway in the world! This North American highway was named the "busiest road in the world" http://livetrucking.com/wp-content/u...2016/06/tr.png https://2ndchanceautoinsurance.ca/40...north-america/ Known as King’s Highway 401, the freeway also goes by its official name of the Macdonald–Cartier Freeway. A 400-Series Highway in the Canadian province of Ontario, the 401 stretches from Windsor to the Quebec border. The segment of Highway 401 passing through Toronto is not only the busiest highway in North America but also one of the widest and busiest in the world. .... the annual average daily traffic (AADT) count between Weston Road and Highway 400 in Toronto was estimated at 431,900. On some days, the number exceeds 500,000 vehicles..... |
Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 12676271)
I don't think that's a picture of the 401. Which stretch is it claimed to be?
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Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
Originally Posted by Siouxie
(Post 12676317)
Read the article, lol.. :p Having used Google Image Search it appears to be in China, or Australia, or Canada, lol... :D
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Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 12676433)
I did read the article but discounted the content based on the picture being wrong. I think the busiest road in north America is in Mexico City and wondered if that was the one in the picture. It's not the 401 because it has vegetation and topography, not warehouses, big box stores and housing projects.
https://www.bricoleurbanism.org/whim...-good-its-bad/ |
Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
Originally Posted by caretaker
(Post 12676449)
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Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 12676454)
Ah ha! You need your wits about you in them internets. It's just like the rest of life!
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Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
The advice given to me by my driving instructor many years ago and reinforced in a defensive driving course in the '70' s in the UK still holds good today here in Canada ( and everywhere else?) Is to treat everyone else on the road as an idiot!....or potentially one...... No offence meant.....
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Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 12676095)
16 lanes at the widest, I think. Several people on this team commute along it, I think they'd vociferously protest against the idea that it has minimal accidents. According to my disgruntled colleague here there's typically a delay due to a crash three journeys a week (out of eight trips). Note that that's commuting against the traffic. A major argument for people working at home is that otherwise they'd have to take the 401 and so have a powerful incentive to find another job.
I have to say that I don't care for coming down the 410 on to the 401 and then taking the 427 south, I'm always relieved to have made the necessary 25 or 30 lane changes without a collision. I commuted that way for a couple of years and saw frequent fist fights between frustrated drivers. It doesn't help, of course, that the road has been dug up since I've been in Canada. The QEW is hardly better. I shake my head at the idea that immigrants would consider living in Oakville. That's 3 or 4 hours a day of misery before considering that, when you're not stuck on the motorway, you're in Oakville.
Originally Posted by Jsmth321
(Post 12676148)
I only drove the 401 once through Toronto and that was enough for me.
Isn't it the busiest freeway in North America?
Originally Posted by Siouxie
(Post 12676161)
It is indeed!
Brilliant photo of it on this article - and actually it's the busiest highway in the world! This North American highway was named the "busiest road in the world" https://2ndchanceautoinsurance.ca/40...north-america/ Known as King’s Highway 401, the freeway also goes by its official name of the Macdonald–Cartier Freeway. A 400-Series Highway in the Canadian province of Ontario, the 401 stretches from Windsor to the Quebec border. The segment of Highway 401 passing through Toronto is not only the busiest highway in North America but also one of the widest and busiest in the world. .... the annual average daily traffic (AADT) count between Weston Road and Highway 400 in Toronto was estimated at 431,900. On some days, the number exceeds 500,000 vehicles..... Back then it's peak was 400,000 cars for daily traffic while the M25 around London at it's busiest was a mild 250,000. I can't imagine the 401 being the busiest now with the size of some of those Chinese cities and the infrastructure laid but it'll probably be quite some time before we have fully accurate data. It only gets worse with the obsession of building towers and inability and fighting between the different tiers of government that kills every transit initiative that is ever proposed. |
Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
Originally Posted by macadian
(Post 12676467)
Is to treat everyone else on the road as an idiot!....or potentially one......
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Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
Originally Posted by JamesM
(Post 12676517)
In 2004/2005 I drove the busy stretch of the 401 everyday as I lived at Yonge/Eglinton and worked at Hurontario. It didn't matter if there was an accident as between about 8.15 and 9.15 everyday you'd be sitting still at points just due to sheer volume and poor exiting and entering.
Back then it's peak was 400,000 cars for daily traffic while the M25 around London at it's busiest was a mild 250,000. I can't imagine the 401 being the busiest now with the size of some of those Chinese cities and the infrastructure laid but it'll probably be quite some time before we have fully accurate data. It only gets worse with the obsession of building towers and inability and fighting between the different tiers of government that kills every transit initiative that is ever proposed. 3 routes go past our place, if your taking transit downtown between 7am and 8:30am, quite common for 2,3,4 buses to go past with Sorry Full before a bus has room and stops. Transit is also not 24/7 here, so leaves shift workers doing early mornings or late nights no choice but to drive if they want to get to work, or home after work. I have 2 co-workers who are off work at 1am, but sit at the airport until 5 something waiting for the first train to depart as they are off work 4 minutes after the last train leaves for the night. |
Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
Originally Posted by Vulcanoid
(Post 12676526)
big piece of advice I remember from my instructor is to treat everyone else as liars :) Advice was always to "Watch the wheels. Indicators lie. Hand signals lie. But wherever the wheels are pointed, that's where and if it's going".
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