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magnumpi Apr 24th 2014 2:18 am

2014 Gas price moaning thread
 
$1:45 a litre WTF is going on? Where's the war?

dbd33 Apr 24th 2014 2:20 am

Re: 2014 Gas price moaning thread
 
How much is it usually?

magnumpi Apr 24th 2014 2:21 am

Re: 2014 Gas price moaning thread
 
1:29 was ok, it's gone up fast within a fortnight

dbd33 Apr 24th 2014 2:22 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11232503)
1:29 was ok, it's gone up fast within a fortnight

Oh, I don't think that's true here. Will try to pay attention next time I fill up.

magnumpi Apr 24th 2014 2:25 am

Re: 2014 Gas price moaning thread
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11232504)
Oh, I don't think that's true here. Will try to pay attention next time I fill up.

That's not much of a moan ? You need more practise moaning, go to Etobicoke and fill up, that should do it

orly Apr 24th 2014 2:26 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11232504)
Oh, I don't think that's true here. Will try to pay attention next time I fill up.

Was about $1.30-1.32 in and around Guelph last weekend.

$1.39 at the Petro Canada on Stone Road this morning if I recall correctly.

Hopefully no one has a Hummer or such.

magnumpi Apr 24th 2014 2:34 am

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Tis cheaper out east, 1:36 in Ajax, but I'm not in Ajax today !!!! I is west side, Just hope I have enough to get home tonight.

orly Apr 24th 2014 2:36 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11232521)
Tis cheaper out east, 1:36 in Ajax, but I'm not in Ajax today !!!! I is west side, Just hope I have enough to get home tonight.

Sure it could be worse. You could be back in the UK and paying ~1.30GBP :D

dbd33 Apr 24th 2014 2:39 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11232507)
That's not much of a moan ? You need more practise moaning, go to Etobicoke and fill up, that should do it

Sorry. OMG! It cost me fifteen cents more to fill up this week than last; and my fuel consumption went from 20.5 to 20.2 mp(US)g.

Does that sound more panic stricken?

Souvy Apr 24th 2014 2:44 am

Re: 2014 Gas price moaning thread
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11232530)
Sorry. OMG! It cost me fifteen cents more to fill up this week than last; and my fuel consumption went from 20.5 to 20.2 mp(US)g.

Does that sound more panic stricken?

Gas is a lot more expensive in QC than it is in ON. It gets more expensive the further from ON you get. It's wickedly expensive in Montreal, which is bizarre. There is a refinery there and I imagine that is where the gas is produced. You can't really blame anything on transport costs!

Pulaski Apr 24th 2014 2:51 am

Re: 2014 Gas price moaning thread
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11232499)
$1:45 a litre WTF is going on? Where's the war?

Ukraine. You know it's coming! :nod:


Originally Posted by orly (Post 11232526)
Sure it could be worse. You could be back in the UK and paying ~1.30GBP :D

I paid 44.9¢/gal for 20 gallons a couple of days ago, thanks to a BP discount promotion. :blink:

Former Lancastrian Apr 24th 2014 3:00 am

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Its 127.4 in my neck of the woods so I guess compared to others Ive nothing to moan about. Well I have but thats in another thread(s) :lol:

magnumpi Apr 24th 2014 3:27 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11232530)
Sorry. OMG! It cost me fifteen cents more to fill up this week than last; and my fuel consumption went from 20.5 to 20.2 mp(US)g.

Does that sound more panic stricken?

Yup, back on topic now

orly Apr 24th 2014 3:30 am

Re: 2014 Gas price moaning thread
 

Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 11232539)
Gas is a lot more expensive in QC than it is in ON. It gets more expensive the further from ON you get. It's wickedly expensive in Montreal, which is bizarre. There is a refinery there and I imagine that is where the gas is produced. You can't really blame anything on transport costs!

Jacques Auger needs to make a crust though

Atlantic Xpat Apr 24th 2014 3:34 am

Re: 2014 Gas price moaning thread
 
$1.399 last night when I filled up the truck. Went up $0.02 overnight. (Regulated gas prices in Newfoundland). Glad I have only 10 months lease on the truck left and don't drive far.;)

burks Apr 24th 2014 3:39 am

Re: 2014 Gas price moaning thread
 
It's broke through 1.50 some places in BC!

Atlantic Xpat Apr 24th 2014 3:51 am

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http://gasbuddy.com is a useful and interesting site where one can research local gas prices. If I look back over the past 48 months for Newfoundland, we're nearing peak gas prices again. Which is a worry.

http://charts.gasbuddy.com/ch.gascha...Unit=CAN%20c/L

Donnykins Apr 24th 2014 4:25 am

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Originally Posted by orly (Post 11232526)
Sure it could be worse. You could be back in the UK and paying ~1.30GBP :D

I quite agree. Come back and fuel up in the UK. That'll give you something to complain about. ;)

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 24th 2014 4:42 am

Re: 2014 Gas price moaning thread
 
1.46 this morning, up 16 cents/liter since last week.

We are always about the same price as Vancouver, no advantage to living outside trans link's tax area.

Atlantic Xpat Apr 24th 2014 5:04 am

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Originally Posted by Donnykins (Post 11232716)
I quite agree. Come back and fuel up in the UK. That'll give you something to complain about. ;)

Well, yes and no.

A simple bit of analysis:

Gas is GBP 1.30 a litre in UK so thats about $2.4 a litre in C$ (using $1.85=GBP)
Converting that to imperial gallons (4.5l) gives a cost of $10.83 a gallon.
In contrast, gas in Canada is about $1.45 a litre so that's $6.52 a gallon.

Or quite a bit less.

But, if one looks at a rough average of MPG for cars/suv's in UK it's not unreasonable to suggest that one might average 45mpg. By contrast in Canada I'd suggest that average might be nearer 30mpg. Cars being having bigger engines, subject to stricter emissions controls and generally being less efficient.

So taking 12000 miles a year as average driving distance, thats an annual cost of $2887 for the UK fuel consumption and $2608 for Canada. Which is only $300 or so different. Or not a lot in the great scheme of things.

Of course, one can argue that Canadians drive greater distances than Brits - although I find I drive considerably less than in the UK as I can only go so far before falling off the edge of the Island - and play around with different vehicles and fuel consumptions to make the difference larger or smaller. You can also argue that car insurance in Canada is massively more expensive in the UK and would eat up any difference in gas cost and then some. Bottom line, for me, is that petrol is bloody expensive wherever you are.

burks Apr 24th 2014 5:06 am

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11232756)
1.46 this morning, up 16 cents/liter since last week.

We are always about the same price as Vancouver, no advantage to living outside trans link's tax area.

Unless you head into the Fraser Valley..

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 24th 2014 5:11 am

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Originally Posted by burks (Post 11232797)
Unless you head into the Fraser Valley..

True. Still an advantage there. I consider this town a mini-Vancouver, might be small, but cost of living isn't much cheaper then Vancouver.

bats Apr 24th 2014 11:02 am

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$1.32 in the village. $1.24 on the reserve. Guess where I gassed up?

Novocastrian Apr 24th 2014 11:03 am

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 11233279)
$1.32 in the village. $1.24 on the reserve. Guess where I gassed up?

You have a reserve tank?

bats Apr 24th 2014 11:26 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11233280)
You have a reserve tank?

I suppose I do in a way.

caretaker Apr 24th 2014 11:27 am

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Gasbuddy.com is your friend if you're travelling. I put in half a tank this morning and it was around $50. The way I look at it, how much do you think it would cost you to make 40 some litres of 87 octane from scratch? No takers? Jings? We have a good deal (my opinion), and the 90 cent dollar, political bs and provincial taxes explain part of the increase. Filling up at the discount station can save $8 or so.

MrFloyd Apr 24th 2014 9:09 pm

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 11232793)
Well, yes and no....

Drive a smaller engine car..?

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 24th 2014 10:50 pm

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 11233279)
$1.32 in the village. $1.24 on the reserve. Guess where I gassed up?

We have 1 native owned station, but they always price match the big guys, so they pass no savings onto the public.

Every station in town is the same exact price 99% of the time, that 1% someone isn't, its always 145.9 everywhere, but someone will put up 145.8. That is about all the savings around these parts.

Makes me wish I was on the border still in Abbotsford, I'd go across and get gas, the city there is right on the border, go early or late in the day, and you can get across, get gas, and be back across in under 15 minutes.

At current prices and adjusting for the exchange rate, would save me about 20 dollars a tank, so 40-80 a month, not huge, but not small either for me.

Atlantic Xpat Apr 25th 2014 12:17 am

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Originally Posted by MrFloyd (Post 11233673)
Drive a smaller engine car..?

Always an option but *generally* cars in North America come with larger, less fuel efficient engines than are available in Europe.

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 25th 2014 1:07 am

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 11233874)
Always an option but *generally* cars in North America come with larger, less fuel efficient engines than are available in Europe.

Or people already have the smallest car possible within their budget and can't get much smaller without going to a motorcycle....

bats Apr 25th 2014 1:16 am

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11233755)
We have 1 native owned station, but they always price match the big guys, so they pass no savings onto the public.

Every station in town is the same exact price 99% of the time, that 1% someone isn't, its always 145.9 everywhere, but someone will put up 145.8. That is about all the savings around these parts.

Makes me wish I was on the border still in Abbotsford, I'd go across and get gas, the city there is right on the border, go early or late in the day, and you can get across, get gas, and be back across in under 15 minutes.

At current prices and adjusting for the exchange rate, would save me about 20 dollars a tank, so 40-80 a month, not huge, but not small either for me.

Prices vary here, more expensive nearer the 401. Pioneer and ultramarine are usually cheapest. The gas stations on the three reserves all sell cheaper gas but it does have to be on or near your route to make it worthwhile.

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 25th 2014 1:25 am

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 11233951)
Prices vary here, more expensive nearer the 401. Pioneer and ultramarine are usually cheapest. The gas stations on the three reserves all sell cheaper gas but it does have to be on or near your route to make it worthwhile.

We only the big boys in town other then the native owned one right before town. 2 Petro Canada, 1 Chevron, 2 Husky.

orly Apr 25th 2014 2:07 am

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11233941)
Or people already have the smallest car possible within their budget and can't get much smaller without going to a motorcycle....

Our car is 1.6l. We drive greater distances and insurance costs more here.
My car back home was 1.3 but I don't think it was really much more efficient overall. The savings were in driving low distance and insurance.

To be honest if it was just me I'd get rid of the car. We probably pay about $450/mth total for insurance, gas, maintenance etc. I'd be able to function perfectly well with an $85 monthly bus pass and renting a car on a weekend occasionally if I had some longer distance to travel or was going to Big-Flatpack-Furniture-Store Incorporated for example. Of course, my wife sees things differently...

Former Lancastrian Apr 25th 2014 2:39 am

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TBH I need a car for work as due to my hours public transit is not available all of the time even though I live in a decent sized city. A taxi one way would cost almost $50 and I work a 4 on 4 off so just one set of shifts would set me back $200. Taking transit back the other way and still paying $10 for 4 trips.
Of course we all become a bit lazier and if the car is on the drive or in the garage we tend to use it for journeys we could take transit or god forbid even walk :lol:

magnumpi Apr 25th 2014 5:42 am

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Ha ha ha ha

W A L K ???

Some places here don't even have sidewalks

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 25th 2014 11:40 am

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Originally Posted by orly (Post 11234016)
Our car is 1.6l. We drive greater distances and insurance costs more here.
My car back home was 1.3 but I don't think it was really much more efficient overall. The savings were in driving low distance and insurance.

To be honest if it was just me I'd get rid of the car. We probably pay about $450/mth total for insurance, gas, maintenance etc. I'd be able to function perfectly well with an $85 monthly bus pass and renting a car on a weekend occasionally if I had some longer distance to travel or was going to Big-Flatpack-Furniture-Store Incorporated for example. Of course, my wife sees things differently...

Up until November 2013, I hadn't owned a car in 5 years, I had been using transit, and walking, and it was hard at first, but once I got used to it, it became the norm...

Now we have a car simply for necessity, not a large city, transit is very limited, and no real way around not having a car as the transit is just not worth even using. Luckily its not a large town, so a tank of gas can last us 2 weeks if we don't go to Vancouver, so its not so bad, but if we had to fill up weekly or more often, I'd dump the car again.

I did buy a bike though and have been biking to work, work is only 2km away and on bike I can take a short cut, and its really not any faster by car.

rivingtonpike Apr 25th 2014 11:53 am

Re: 2014 Gas price moaning thread
 
Gas on the Island is still $1.39.9. I thought it might go back down after the Easter Break but - no.

Gozit Apr 26th 2014 1:01 pm

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Err.. It was 99 cents a litre in Pt Huron, MI last time we filled up the truck on the way home from florida ;)

Its about 1.30 /l here in the GTA :thumbdown:

Of course I could be paying €1.46 a litre in Malta. ($2.21 CAD / 1.19GBP) Also bad.

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 26th 2014 1:23 pm

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Went up to 146.9 today, first time ever I have had to pay over 70 dollars for a tank of gas, luckily it will last about 2 weeks, so its not frequent but I feel bad for those commuting to Whistler for work at these prices.

I could not imagine owning a large vehicle with a large tank if it cost 73 dollars for a Sunfire..

rivingtonpike Apr 26th 2014 1:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11235736)
Went up to 146.9 today, first time ever I have had to pay over 70 dollars for a tank of gas, luckily it will last about 2 weeks, so its not frequent but I feel bad for those commuting to Whistler for work at these prices.

I could not imagine owning a large vehicle with a large tank if it cost 73 dollars for a Sunfire..

Coo! that's the highest I've heard of. Still holding at $1.39.9 here. Hoping for a drop soon:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed:


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