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Siphorous Jun 19th 2012 11:05 pm

100 million people
 
I was searching for something entirely different and came across this.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...186906/?page=1

Interesting. Does Canada really need to nearly triple its population?

The spread on the poll is interesting to see too. I expected more negative reaction but was pleasantly surprised by the split.

calliope Jun 20th 2012 12:45 am

Re: 100 million people
 

Originally Posted by Siphorous (Post 10129034)
I was searching for something entirely different and came across this.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...186906/?page=1

Interesting. Does Canada really need to nearly triple its population?

The spread on the poll is interesting to see too. I expected more negative reaction but was pleasantly surprised by the split.

If they want 100 million people they had better stop taking 5 years to process a visa.

iaink Jun 20th 2012 1:06 am

Re: 100 million people
 
How many of those 100M will be working and contributing to the tax base...

Almost Canadian Jun 20th 2012 1:13 am

Re: 100 million people
 
I find that bizarre. Has Australia's population stopped it becoming "independent", whatever that means?

Sounds like inferiority complex to me.

hamazz Jun 20th 2012 2:10 am

Re: 100 million people
 
well if you look at the landmass of canada, 2nd biggest in the world, however out of the top 5 countries it is the only one with a population less than 100million.

but they do need to sieve who to let in and make sure that people dont just immigrate to sit and claim benefits and dont give any benefit to the country.

hamazz

iaink Jun 20th 2012 2:13 am

Re: 100 million people
 

Originally Posted by hamazz (Post 10129311)
well if you look at the landmass of canada, 2nd biggest in the world,

Dont be fooled though, only the southern most bits are fit for living.

hamazz Jun 20th 2012 2:24 am

Re: 100 million people
 
found this interesting to go with the above

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle4170229/

hamazz

JamesM Jun 20th 2012 2:24 am

Re: 100 million people
 

Originally Posted by Siphorous (Post 10129034)
I was searching for something entirely different and came across this.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...186906/?page=1

Interesting. Does Canada really need to nearly triple its population?

The spread on the poll is interesting to see too. I expected more negative reaction but was pleasantly surprised by the split.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...ghlight=JamesM

el_richo Jun 20th 2012 4:02 am

Re: 100 million people
 

Originally Posted by hamazz (Post 10129311)
well if you look at the landmass of canada, 2nd biggest in the world, however out of the top 5 countries it is the only one with a population less than 100million.

but they do need to sieve who to let in and make sure that people dont just immigrate to sit and claim benefits and dont give any benefit to the country.

hamazz

Where do you think this extra 65 Million people will live?

I'm pretty sure those currently living in the habitable areas won't be too pleased at the ultra-sprawl developed to accommodate everybody. They can barely manage to support infrastructure for the current population in the larger urban areas so they'd be ****ed with anywhere near that number.

scribe123 Jun 20th 2012 4:30 am

Re: 100 million people
 
Interesting article.

It sounds like you should be given more points towards PR if you would be bringing children with you. Oooooh, I don't know; 10 points per child, no need to have a job on 'the list', and a fast track PR. That would do nicely and I think they should implement it tomorrow :D

hamazz Jun 20th 2012 4:46 am

Re: 100 million people
 

Originally Posted by scribe123 (Post 10129512)
Interesting article.

It sounds like you should be given more points towards PR if you would be bringing children with you. Oooooh, I don't know; 10 points per child, no need to have a job on 'the list', and a fast track PR. That would do nicely and I think they should implement it tomorrow :D

that would be an idea, but then again alot of asians have bigger families, so maybe they would get in quicker....

well we do have the queen here, they should give us some points for that, we pay her bills etc.

hamazz

jericho Jun 20th 2012 5:24 am

Re: 100 million people
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 10129472)
Where do you think this extra 65 Million people will live?

I'm pretty sure those currently living in the habitable areas won't be too pleased at the ultra-sprawl developed to accommodate everybody. They can barely manage to support infrastructure for the current population in the larger urban areas so they'd be ****ed with anywhere near that number.

Yes me, again. ;)

It's a bit of a fallacy to say that there arent enough habitable areas in Candada.
If you look at the zone between the US and say 100 or 200 mile belt of Canada, there's plenty of space right across the country.
Edmonton, despite it's cold winters, has close to 1 million people.

YoshiPal2010 Jun 20th 2012 5:31 am

Re: 100 million people
 

Originally Posted by jericho (Post 10129601)
Yes me, again. ;)

It's a bit of a fallacy to say that there arent enough habitable areas in Candada.
If you look at the zone between the US and say 100 or 200 mile belt of Canada, there's plenty of space right across the country.
Edmonton, despite it's cold winters, has close to 1 million people.

It's not so-much the space, it's the ability of the natural resources to service the population. Calgary, for example has 1.3 million people living in its environs. However, according to a recent report, the local water resources can only service around 2 million max. So a tripling of the population (to 3.5 million+?) would be a disaster for all!

el_richo Jun 20th 2012 5:48 am

Re: 100 million people
 

Originally Posted by jericho (Post 10129601)
Yes me, again. ;)

It's a bit of a fallacy to say that there arent enough habitable areas in Candada.
If you look at the zone between the US and say 100 or 200 mile belt of Canada, there's plenty of space right across the country.
Edmonton, despite it's cold winters, has close to 1 million people.

Hello http://yoursmiles.org/csmile/goodbye/c0206.gif

By habitable, i mean currently available. Unless they build brand new enticing cities, with further surrounding sprawls of housing, hooked up to water, electrickery, gas, etc, (which will cost a fair few $'s to set up, and years of time), immigrants will continue to head toward the usual suspects of Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal (~70%).

Vancouver certainly is struggling to accommodate those coming now, let alone the future.

Immigrants will tend to go where the work is or where the weather pleases them most. I'm not so sure the large influx of asians would choose Lloydminster or Williams Lake over Vancouver, for example.

The government would have a hard sell on many of the "newer", more harsher (weather) areas to the current high volume demographics, in my opinion

Who knows. Maybe the economy or depletion of Alberta and NFLD money could put paid to any notion of it.

jericho Jun 20th 2012 6:01 am

Re: 100 million people
 
The area I used to live in (Sherwood Park, AB), people remember it as being a small town that used to seem like miles away from Edmonton.
Now it's a city (in all but name) of 80,000 with it's own transit system, school boards, etc etc. Instead of being a vast space between Edmonton and Sherwood Park, like there used to be, the two are pretty much intertwined now.

I'm not suggesting that Canada could cope with 100m people now... but over the next 80/90 years (as suggested in the article) of course it could.

Whether or not Canada has the vision for it is a different question altogether though. My guess is that by the time Canada realises it needs more immigrants, humans will have colonised Mars.


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