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MM2H or Residence pass (ex Malaysian)

Old Mar 25th 2021, 3:30 pm
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Originally Posted by marssie
Since putrajaya office is not reachable, I called the state-level immigration office. Here are some info:
1. Under category 5 (ex-malaysian), an existing long term pass is not required.
2. Physical presence in Malaysia is needed for application. Application via foreign embassy is not possible.
3. Required documents, just follow the checklist stated on the imi.gov website.
​​​4. Borang Y or K is crucial, which you obtained upon your citizenship renunciation at that time.
5. You need to make appointment in advance (online if available per branch) for your documents submission. And I read on other internet source that the sponsor needs to present together during submission.

I forgot to ask how long will it take to approve. Anyhow I think the above info is quite encouraging.

Good luck with application in due time.
Thank you. This is great information. I will try this next time I am in Malaysia. The requirements for the sponsor seem to be minimal, looks like any Malaysian citizen is fine, so probably a lawyer or similar.

If you happen to try this approach, please also let me know the outcome.

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Old Mar 28th 2021, 12:23 am
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Originally Posted by barryfaetheus
Thank you. This is great information. I will try this next time I am in Malaysia. The requirements for the sponsor seem to be minimal, looks like any Malaysian citizen is fine, so probably a lawyer or similar.
In Sarawak this would likely require that the sponsor be a Sarawakian. This would be the person who would guarantee the Personal (aka security) Bond...which varies between countries of origin. It is essentially based on the distance...and covers the "expatriation" (i.e deportation) costs if you do a no-no according to the terms of your visa. The maximum Personal Bond amount is now RM3000.
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Old Mar 28th 2021, 3:19 am
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Originally Posted by RedApe
In Sarawak this would likely require that the sponsor be a Sarawakian. This would be the person who would guarantee the Personal (aka security) Bond...which varies between countries of origin. It is essentially based on the distance...and covers the "expatriation" (i.e deportation) costs if you do a no-no according to the terms of your visa. The maximum Personal Bond amount is now RM3000.
Oh, ok. So I guess a lawyer would not necessarily be willing to do this, but I guess I can find someone. Leaning more towards Penang/KL than Sarawak at this time.
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Old Aug 31st 2023, 11:20 am
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Originally Posted by marssie
Since putrajaya office is not reachable, I called the state-level immigration office. Here are some info:
1. Under category 5 (ex-malaysian), an existing long term pass is not required.
2. Physical presence in Malaysia is needed for application. Application via foreign embassy is not possible.
3. Required documents, just follow the checklist stated on the imi.gov website.
​​​4. Borang Y or K is crucial, which you obtained upon your citizenship renunciation at that time.
5. You need to make appointment in advance (online if available per branch) for your documents submission. And I read on other internet source that the sponsor needs to present together during submission.

I forgot to ask how long will it take to approve. Anyhow I think the above info is quite encouraging.

Good luck with application in due time.
This is great advice! Any updates? I would be extremely grateful to know.

I was born in Malaysia and after 20 years of legal residence in the UK, acquired British citizenship by naturalisation. I came to Malaysia to work, on short assignments (2012-13) and from 2014 granted an Employment Pass via my employer. At the very end of 2018 I was granted RPT (Residence Pass Talent) for an initial 5 years, extendable for a further 5 years in December 2023. Due to unforseen circumstances I no longer qualify for RPT. (Personal assessment). I do not know if the officials have very much discretion in this. I have personal and familial obligations here and need to remain in MY.

I then discovered this: 'Residence Pass is a pass issued to any foreign national who falls under any category specified under Regulation 16A, Immigration Regulations 1963'
As you have pointed out, Category 5 under Reg.16A applies to ex-Malaysians who wish to reside in Malaysia (note special conditions for Sarawak and Sabah).

The offical website only lists forms and photos to be supplied, but says noting about ciriteria used to determine qualification. Put another way, can anyone capable of filling in the forms and providing the photos qualify for a Residence Pass? Is there no discretion involved?

Has anyone already been through the process? I would be eternally grateul for personal experiences as none of the lawyers I have contacted know about this and have only suggested other routes. Why? This is so straight forward!

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This is great advice! Any updates? I would be extremely grateful to know.

I was born in Malaysia and after 20 years of legal residence in the UK, acquired British citizenship by naturalisation. I came to Malaysia to work, on short assignments (2012-13) and from 2014 granted an Employment Pass via my employer. At the very end of 2018 I was granted RPT (Residence Pass Talent) for an initial 5 years, extendable for a further 5 years in December 2023. Due to unforseen circumstances I no longer qualify for RPT. (Personal assessment). I do not know if the officials have very much discretion in this. I have personal and familial obligations here and need to remain in MY.

I then discovered this: 'Residence Pass is a pass issued to any foreign national who falls under any category specified under Regulation 16A, Immigration Regulations 1963'
As you have pointed out, Category 5 under Reg.16A applies to ex-Malaysians who wish to reside in Malaysia (note special conditions for Sarawak and Sabah).

The offical website only lists forms and photos to be supplied, but says noting about ciriteria used to determine qualification. Put another way, can anyone capable of filling in the forms and providing the photos qualify for a Residence Pass? Is there no discretion involved?

Has anyone already been through the process? I would be eternally grateul for personal experiences as none of the lawyers I have contacted know about this and have only suggested other routes. Why? This is so straight forward!
In later of year 2021 I called Putra Jaya to enquire about the same matter. The officer was open enough to tell me that for so long her tenure (few years) at the department she has never seen any of such application is approved. I can understand this, perhaps it's a sentiment of why should a country take back those who gave up their citizenship in the first place. Is like if your girlfriend or boyfriend ever gave you up for another new love, would you take him or her back? Being diplomatic the possibility is to apply is offered, however when come to approval, it is subject to their will. There can be always a reason to reject. The officer advised to try on MM2H instead. For no harm you can still try to submit for the Residence Pass, it takes 6 months to process as advised at that time in 2021.
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Originally Posted by marssie
In later of year 2021 I called Putra Jaya to enquire about the same matter. The officer was open enough to tell me that for so long her tenure (few years) at the department she has never seen any of such application is approved. I can understand this, perhaps it's a sentiment of why should a country take back those who gave up their citizenship in the first place. Is like if your girlfriend or boyfriend ever gave you up for another new love, would you take him or her back? Being diplomatic the possibility is to apply is offered, however when come to approval, it is subject to their will. There can be always a reason to reject. The officer advised to try on MM2H instead. For no harm you can still try to submit for the Residence Pass, it takes 6 months to process as advised at that time in 2021.
Thank you marssie - From your previous posts on this thread, I guess you too are an ex-Malaysian. Why else would you be here? LOL! So, on that basis, what happened to your application? It seems to me that you eventually chose not to apply. I think every situation is different and each office may exercse a small degree of discretion. I imagine that State level offices only administrate (that's to say, issue, collect and verify forms and so on). I imagine that in a highly centralised system (as in Malaysia) the Minsitry at Putrajaya will be the ones making the final decision. But equally they probably decide on the basis of recommendations from the state-level offices. Anyway, I hope so. I have just started my process, and found the State-level officers very helpful.

As to perceptions and motivations, the regulations were created in 1963 - the same year that 'Malaysia' was born - a time of change and flux with borders, nationalities and for people. I can understand the country making provision for ex-Malaysians. As for attitudes in 2023, I am not sure that attitudes are as judgemental as you suggest: "...
why should a country take back those who gave up their citizenship in the first place." Each experience is different and the usefulness of this forum is to help figure out what other experiences are similar to one's own.
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