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Old Jan 17th 2018, 7:32 pm
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Close but not quite.
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Old Jan 17th 2018, 7:38 pm
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At least it won't get changed to Violent Elizabeth.
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Old Jan 17th 2018, 9:36 pm
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I became a Great Aunt yesterday Caoimhe Mary was born in Australia, to my English nephew and his Irish girlfriend. I hope one day I get to meet her.

Anyone want to guess phonetically how you say that? That poor child is going to have a hard time with substitute teachers
Congratulations Auntie Nicky.
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At least it won't get changed to Violent Elizabeth.
She's already being called Lily. (The Elizabeth part is for her great grandmother who went by Lily). But I did joke about her being called Violent
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Old Jan 18th 2018, 1:36 am
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Default Re: What made you smile today? Part III

Originally Posted by N1cky View Post
I became a Great Aunt yesterday Caoimhe Mary was born in Australia, to my English nephew and his Irish girlfriend. I hope one day I get to meet her.

Anyone want to guess phonetically how you say that? That poor child is going to have a hard time with substitute teachers
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I'd hazard a guess at it being pronounced 'Kee-va' based on girls I knew back home who had similarly spelt (though different) names.
Now there's an interesting one ..... I'd have thought Queevuh in the northern dialects, though it's more like Keevuh down in Munster. I guess the pronunciation will depend on where the mam comes from. Whichever, it's a beautiful name - and means just that, 'comely, beautiful, beloved, precious -even gentle. It's the female form of Caoimhin, or Kevin. Remember to put a silver coin in her hand, so she'll never know hardship.

Céad míle fáilte, a Caoimhe. May strong arms hold you, caring hearts tend you and may love await you at every step.
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Old Jan 18th 2018, 8:06 am
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Originally Posted by N1cky View Post
I became a Great Aunt yesterday Caoimhe Mary was born in Australia, to my English nephew and his Irish girlfriend. I hope one day I get to meet her.

Anyone want to guess phonetically how you say that?
Is it like "COME HERE!"?
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Old Jan 18th 2018, 8:19 am
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Is it like "COME HERE!"?
In Limerick, that would be more likemore like "C'mere, I wancha"
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Default Re: What made you smile today? Part III

Originally Posted by N1cky View Post
I became a Great Aunt yesterday Caoimhe Mary was born in Australia, to my English nephew and his Irish girlfriend. I hope one day I get to meet her.

Anyone want to guess phonetically how you say that? That poor child is going to have a hard time with substitute teachers
Congrats. I like being a Great Aunt. You have little to do with them but you sound really important.
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Now there's an interesting one ..... I'd have thought Queevuh in the northern dialects, though it's more like Keevuh down in Munster. I guess the pronunciation will depend on where the mam comes from. Whichever, it's a beautiful name - and means just that, 'comely, beautiful, beloved, precious -even gentle. It's the female form of Caoimhin, or Kevin. Remember to put a silver coin in her hand, so she'll never know hardship.

Céad míle fáilte, a Caoimhe. May strong arms hold you, caring hearts tend you and may love await you at every step.
You were both so close. Qweeva apparently is the correct pronunciation.

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Is it like "COME HERE!"?
That's what I'd be saying, rather than trying to pronounce it

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Congrats. I like being a Great Aunt. You have little to do with them but you sound really important.
Yeah! I'd love a cuddle though, we only have a really small family, and my daughter was the last baby to be born into it, and she's 15 now.
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A package in the mail today

Tonight we will drink tea and say thanks to some very special lovely people.

Totally made my day
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Old Jan 18th 2018, 11:09 pm
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You were both so close. Qweeva apparently is the correct pronunciation.
I'll leave you to argue that with my cousin on Shannonside. Go n-éirí leat!
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Old Jan 19th 2018, 7:21 am
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I'll leave you to argue that with my cousin on Shannonside. Go n-éirí leat!
Well she should have left earlier.
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A package in the mail today

Tonight we will drink tea and say thanks to some very special lovely people.

Totally made my day
Perfect day for it!!

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Old Jan 19th 2018, 2:18 pm
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I'll leave you to argue that with my cousin on Shannonside. Go n-éirí leat!
Isn't it funny how for such a small island, Ireland has such a wide variety of accents and dialects? You only have to travel maybe 10-15 miles outside of Belfast into the countryside and the accent changes dramatically.
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Isn't it funny how for such a small island, Ireland has such a wide variety of accents and dialects? You only have to travel maybe 10-15 miles outside of Belfast into the countryside and the accent changes dramatically.
Since Irish was suppressed nationwide, it only survived in those poor areas where the authorities didn't care much, mainly in the West and far from Dublin and Belfast. There was little cross-fertilization. So you get the 3 main dialects, Ulster, Connacht and Munster - and they can have some real differences - for example, the wonderful tuber is called préata in Ulster, fata in Connacht and práta in Munster (or Potato as Béarla)

Even in dialects, there are differences in separated communities, like Mayo and Connemara. Then, to make things even more complicated, in the Republic, the state intervened and has "standardised" the language mainly on the Connacht dialect (a move resisted in Muster in my youth). In the North, I'm guessing that the Ulster dialect persists (from the little I've seen on the BBC).

The accent business is different - just between Limerick, Kerry and Cork there is enough variation to make your ears bleed, as an example:


... and, just for the craic
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Old Jan 19th 2018, 3:45 pm
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Since Irish was suppressed nationwide, it only survived in those poor areas where the authorities didn't care much, mainly in the West and far from Dublin and Belfast. There was little cross-fertilization. So you get the 3 main dialects, Ulster, Connacht and Munster - and they can have some real differences - for example, the wonderful tuber is called préata in Ulster, fata in Connacht and práta in Munster (or Potato as Béarla)

Even in dialects, there are differences in separated communities, like Mayo and Connemara. Then, to make things even more complicated, in the Republic, the state intervened and has "standardised" the language mainly on the Connacht dialect (a move resisted in Muster in my youth). In the North, I'm guessing that the Ulster dialect persists (from the little I've seen on the BBC).

The accent business is different - just between Limerick, Kerry and Cork there is enough variation to make your ears bleed, as an example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEoPt7zKb_E


... and, just for the craic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbk5o9Ms6sI
Oh yeah, I was only talking about the variations in how they speak English, add in Irish to the mix and it's exponentially more varied.

Up in Norn Irn, we have our own kind of bastardized mix of English and Ulster Scots, I suppose you could call it. Full of colloquialisms, of course. Irish is spoken in parts of West Belfast still, there are bilingual street name signs, but it's mostly cultural, we don't have a mini-Gaeltacht or anything.

Irish is starting to gain a bit of traction, even in East Belfast, thanks to Linda Ervine (who's brother-in-law was the ex-PUP leader and former UVF member of all people ).
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