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Sorry to intrude, but could one of you knowledgeable gentlemen explain what exactly "following on" is, and under what circumstances they have to do it? No, seriously, I want to know.
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Sorry to intrude, but could one of you knowledgeable gentlemen explain what exactly "following on" is, and under what circumstances they have to do it? No, seriously, I want to know.
this is complicated to explain but I'll give it a shot

OK, when a team reaches a certain total in a test (not sure of the percentage) the opposition needs to pass a certain score to avoid the follow on, or in other words bat again.

so England scored 470 odd, I think the Aussies would have had to score somewhere near the 300 mark, they didn't so England made them bat again.

if England bowl the Aussies out before the total of their 2 innings does not beat England first innings score it's an innings victory.

if they do beat England's first innings score, England will bat again.

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this is complicated to explain but I'll give it a shot

OK, when a team reaches a certain total in a test (not sure of the percentage) the opposition needs to pass a certain score to avoid the follow on, or in other words bat again.

so England scored 470 odd, I think the Aussies would have had to score somewhere near the 300 mark, they didn't so England made them bat again.

if England bowl the Aussies out before the total of their 2 innings does not beat England first innings score it's an innings victory.

if they do beat England's first innings score, England will bat again.

any good?
So the Aussies get two innings to try and pass what England scored in one innings? And if they don't, game over? And if they do England bats again? And if England bat again, they have to score more runs total that the Aussies scored in their two innings?
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So the Aussies get two innings to try and pass what England scored in one innings? And if they don't, game over? And if they do England bats again? And if England bat again, they have to score more runs total that the Aussies scored in their two innings?
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So the Aussies get two innings to try and pass what England scored in one innings? And if they don't, game over? And if they do England bats again? And if England bat again, they have to score more runs total that the Aussies scored in their two innings?
I'm not very good at articulating things like this so late on a Saturday night, but yes.

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So when does "time run out"? When the sun goes down? Supper time? When the pubs close?
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So when does "time run out"? When the sun goes down? Supper time? When the pubs close?
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The figure the other team has to get to avoid the follow on is to be less than 200 of the other teams score. Australia had to score 278 in their 1st innings to have avoided the follow on but failed to do so, so they were put in to bat again.
The rest is as per Walla.
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the follow on:
There are laws about this? I can just see it - "'ullo ullo, what's all this, you can't do that 'ere this is a five-day match and it's not even tea time".


Hockey was a lot easier. You just hit everything and everyone in sight with your hockey stick, and occasionally connected with the ball. It had a sort of simple purity to it.
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The figure the other team has to get to avoid the follow on is to be less than 200 of the other teams score. Australia had to score 278 in their 1st innings to have avoided the follow on but failed to do so, so they were put in to bat again.
The rest is as per Walla.

Can you tell me who decides when "time runs out"? Haven't found that yet.
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Or as Law 13 as previously stated (did not read it).
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Can you tell me who decides when "time runs out"? Haven't found that yet.
I believe the light meter decides - David? Tony?
 
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A Test match is based on 5 days play. Therfore if it has not ended before it will finish at 6-00pm on Monday. Test matches in the UK are started on a Thursday.
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There are laws about this? I can just see it - "'ullo ullo, what's all this, you can't do that 'ere this is a five-day match and it's not even tea time".


Hockey was a lot easier. You just hit everything and everyone in sight with your hockey stick, and occasionally connected with the ball. It had a sort of simple purity to it.
I played hockey at school - boys only was ok, but mixed? :scared: those damned girls were bloody accurate with their sticks - and we weren't allowed to retaliate
 

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