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Old Jul 29th 2019, 4:23 pm
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How many do you have?
Four.

Let's call it horses for courses.

The HP Pro-desk in the den/pit/my room is used for language learning (just not as much as it should be ), but it's prime use is recording/cleaning/cutting and sorting audio as I am digitising my vinyl collection. It has two new friends for that purpose, a Denon turntable and a very old Denon receiver used for audio passthrough, turntable to PC. Ethernet wired via a hub to the main router which is in the garage. I have no choice in the main router, that's the ISP rules.

The MSI mini-cube in the lounge is hooked via the new(ish) Denon receiver via HDMI, onwards to the old definitely not smart, but HDMI aware Sony TV. It's pretty much dedicated to to 'a service that I subscribe to', backed with an external disk holding stuff that rhymes vaguely with abhorrence. I got so hacked off with iPlayer and other stuff going tits up on a regular basis that I went the subscription way. It's ethernet wired via an AP to the main router.

The day to day machine is an HP Envy laptop, works fine, horrible keyboard, boff. Wi-fi.

The fourth is the gorgeous old Sony Vaio, which despite a new battery is on it's last legs. It's a backup, and gets fired up about once a month just to ensure that it's still viable. Wi-fi.

Et voila!

Then there's the other two

The old gifted XP thing, still haven't found the power supply, that'll be a dedicated Linux playbox. I suspect this predates wi-fi, he'll get the cable.

And I still haven't fixed / had fixed the beeyootiful little HP laptop which one of the cats threw wine over a while ago. When I get that one back it will become the day beast, the other HP (that I'm on now) will become backup, and the Vaio will go to 'that place'. That'll be sad.
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Old Jul 29th 2019, 6:51 pm
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Do you ever wish you could rewind and make a different purchase?

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...The MSI mini-cube in the lounge is hooked via the new(ish) Denon receiver via HDMI, onwards to the old definitely not smart, but HDMI aware Sony TV
Never got the hang of torrents but did plenty of streaming and downloading streams (internet download manager - a great bargain with a one-off fee) but sometimes I wanted to view on a bigger screen than the 15.6" laptop. Did do the thumbrive to the TV via Xbox or PS2 or whatever it was but didn't always work and the TV didn't have HDMI.

So I foolishly bought the all-in-one for the 20" screen plus W10 practice while I was resisting it and sticking with W7.

But a month later, the electronics store had a bargain 32" non smart but HDMI aware TV. Such a bargain I bought two. So casting to the big screen (and now a dedicated computer - but not that fancy thing you have) became the norm and the all-in-one became virtually redundant and then completely redundant when I bit the bullet and bought a new W10 laptop

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Old Jul 29th 2019, 8:20 pm
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Do you ever wish you could rewind and make a different purchase?
Thankfully not as yet. I tend to research all things tech very deeply, work out what I want specification-wise, then start down the best price/value trail. I pulled myself up short having bought the new Denon AVR a few months back, upon installing it, there's no means to record audio. What???

Back to the notes made whilst researching... ah, I had covered it, by taking the old AVR out of the lounge (the amp had become a bit "fuzzy", it wasn't in any way an impulse buy, besides the old one had put in about 18 years service). Bypass the amp bit, go to passthrough mode, enable the turntable's pre-amp, good to go. Move old AVR and turntable into the recording studio, hook it to the recently upgraded desktop, bingo.

Oh bugger, there's now an aesthectical gap in the lounge furniture setup just begging for a new turntable.



Best see stevenglish1's hobbies thread as to how that one's likely to pan out - research is ongoing, as recording restrictions no longer exist for the lounge.

RP3 (or even RP6 ) here we come. Yay!

As to the initial question, I did once lose fifty quid plus selling agent fees on a flat in Ashford, Kent in the early 80's, but it was ok when all was taken into account.

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Never got the hang of torrents but did plenty of streaming and downloading streams (internet download manager - a great bargain with a one-off fee) but sometimes I wanted to view on a bigger screen than the 15.6" laptop. Did do the thumbrive to the TV via Xbox or PS2 or whatever it was but didn't always work and the TV didn't have HDMI.

So I foolishly bought the all-in-one for the 20" screen plus W10 practice while I was resisting it and sticking with W7.

But a month later, the electronics store had a bargain 32" non smart but HDMI aware TV. Such a bargain I bought two. So casting to the big screen (and now a dedicated computer - but not that fancy thing you have) became the norm and the all-in-one became virtually redundant and then completely redundant when I bit the bullet and bought a new W10 laptop
Torrents are a doddle these days, the only downside (?) is maybe having to ramp up available disk storage. PM me for more. Detail, not disk space.

The 'do I buy it now, do I wait a week and see what Fred Bloggs will be offering?' is still out there, and long may it be so. I work out what I want, watch what's happening, make my own target price then forget it all for a week or so. I used to suffer from 'if only I had waited...' but I got over that one.
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Might as well use this thread.
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Anyone know why no invitation to 1903 yet?
Microsoft do apparently. It got downloaded on the HP desktop overnight, so this morning I was presented with the "Restart now?" screen, the next bit took several hours.

I then had a look at the MSI cube media player box, and got this:




"but your device isn't quite ready for it."

Does it need a shower? More coffee?
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"but your device isn't quite ready for it."

Does it need a shower? More coffee?
A pep talk.

What happens if you click for updates? I repeatedly got the "up to date" caption but checking updates would then find an update that I assume was part of 1809...I'd do that one, get "up to date" again and then check updates and there'd be another.

I think it happened 3 or 4 times before settling back definitely up to date (as far as 1809 goes) and a day later getting the 1903.
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A pep talk.

What happens if you click for updates?
Same same.

I might prod the Vaio into life later today and get MS's take on that one.

Update? This? Are you sure? Isn't this device a bit old?
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I might prod the Vaio into life later today and get MS's take on that one.

Update? This? Are you sure? Isn't this device a bit old?
I had to look that up. Discontinued?

I'd love a red laptop.







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I had to look that up. Discontinued?

I'd love a red laptop.



I can only wish... that looks gorgeous.

Mine is black and an awful lot clunkier in appearance.

Probably not worth pursuing after Sony elbowed its way out of laptops.
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tbh I've just about given up trying to block these upgrade/ updates, which screwed my machine up completely. I've tried everything - blocking the firewall, special update blocker -(was that a waste of time & money) opting out of update/s, even trawling tech forums, and finally turning off / re-setting the local services menus, which at best I've found only gives 24hr blockage.
So, here I am (every effing-day!!!) uninstalling the 5mb assistant & updates. It's like being back at Windows 3.1....
All I want in my next life is 10 mins in a locked soundproofed room with the geek responsible for all this ...
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tbh I've just about given up trying to block these upgrade/ updates, which screwed my machine up completely. I've tried everything - blocking the firewall, special update blocker -(was that a waste of time & money) opting out of update/s, even trawling tech forums, and finally turning off / re-setting the local services menus, which at best I've found only gives 24hr blockage.
So, here I am (every effing-day!!!) uninstalling the 5mb assistant & updates. It's like being back at Windows 3.1....
All I want in my next life is 10 mins in a locked soundproofed room with the geek responsible for all this ...
I feel your pain.
To avoid the hassle you describe (and to be virus-free), four or five years ago I would have suggested you get a Mac laptop (UniBody, pre Retina), but since then they have become virtually unrepairable, and imho only those with 3 year AppleCare remaining valid can in most cases be assured of at least a change of logic board or laptop replacement when a problem accurs.
Along with their planned obsolescence - aided by the all-too-frequent changes of operating system, I've fallen completely out of love with most Apple products - especially laptops, along with many thousands of others on the specialist forums. This excellent LINK helps to explains why. A repairability score of 1/10 is simply disgraceful! Making current Apple laptops virtually throw-away computers when out of warranty, and hardware problem occurs. Little wonder that my MacBookPro 13" 2012 is by far the favourite - although not listed I give it a 8/10 for repairability, as I've changed out components and updated to latest software to render it wonderfully useful in 2019.

Fwiw, the only Apple desktop I would consider buying new today is the iMac, as individual components can be changed out with relative ease for those willing to follow iFixit excellent tutorials. This is expected to change however with the announced new iMac later this year, which I bet we'll see with soldered-down memory models, and other hardware solidly glued into the case, resulting in a poor repairability score. If so I wouldn't touch-it with a barge-pole (which is not the case for the early 2019 iMac which is highly recommended). In fact next year I'll be hunting local websites for an as-new, temptingly-priced, early 2019 iMac to replace my current 2011 model - which should be interesting.

Getting closer back on topic, I recently found an excellent little ThinkPad X230 for silly-money, and love it! It has Win 7 which particularly drew me too it (that and the price). Had Win 10 been installed I would certainly have passed on it. But I appreciate - everyone to his own.

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https://www.drivereasy.com/knowledge...ows-10-update/

plenty of tips online..
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"but your device isn't quite ready for it."
Microsoft decided the day before yesterday that the MSI cube was finally ready for it, and that went seamlessly as well as pretty quickly.

The old Vaio didn't get sneered at as I had half expected, took an age to sort itself and download, then the upgrade failed at 37% done.

On restarting it backed all the updates out (taking another age) and was back to 1803. But at least there was a useable OS, this being the machine that prompted the start of this whole thread.

Left it for a few hours, had another go, this time it ran through ok.
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Maybe I'm stating the obvious here, but I didn't recognize the numbering scheme for Win10 updates until recently! 1803 is 2018, March update. 1809 is 2018 Sept update; 1903 is 2019, March update. So obvious when you know, but never occurred to me!

MS are now issuing major feature updates to Win10 twice yearly, March and Sept, and that's what these things are.

Currently trying to bludgeon 1903 onto a client's machine remotely ...

One of the new features of 1903 is that, allegedly, you can now better control updates (delay for up to 35 days). Quite a bit of useful info here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...0-version-1903

With Microsoft dropping support for Win 7, several of my clients are being forced to upgrade to 10. They use apps that are no longer supporting win 7. Eg - LaCerte - a mainstream tax preparation package from Quicken - is dropping support for win 7 with the upcoming 2019 tax year version, so clients will have to have win 10 in order to run Lacerte 2019 tax prep.

Thanks to a post from BristolUK, I was able to upgrade all the desktops at this client remotely and quickly without issue. Very quick, and the upgrade did a good job of preserving everything - including some REALLY old apps that my clients were using.
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Maybe I'm stating the obvious here, but I didn't recognize the numbering scheme for Win10 updates until recently! 1803 is 2018, March update. 1809 is 2018 Sept update; 1903 is 2019, March update. So obvious when you know, but never occurred to me!

MS are now issuing major feature updates to Win10 twice yearly, March and Sept, and that's what these things are.

Currently trying to bludgeon 1903 onto a client's machine remotely ...

One of the new features of 1903 is that, allegedly, you can now better control updates (delay for up to 35 days). Quite a bit of useful info here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...0-version-1903

With Microsoft dropping support for Win 7, several of my clients are being forced to upgrade to 10. They use apps that are no longer supporting win 7. Eg - LaCerte - a mainstream tax preparation package from Quicken - is dropping support for win 7 with the upcoming 2019 tax year version, so clients will have to have win 10 in order to run Lacerte 2019 tax prep.

Thanks to a post from BristolUK, I was able to upgrade all the desktops at this client remotely and quickly without issue. Very quick, and the upgrade did a good job of preserving everything - including some REALLY old apps that my clients were using.
But as to who gets what remains a mystery, at least to me. My machines were all at 1803, never saw a hint of 1809, the next I knew was 1903 knocking at the door.
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But as to who gets what remains a mystery, at least to me. My machines were all at 1803, never saw a hint of 1809, the next I knew was 1903 knocking at the door.
OMG, that means they're all going to crash with the next one.


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