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tpw21 Jul 25th 2021 5:49 pm

Visiting UK
 
Hi, hope you’re all well. Has anyone travelled to the UK during the pandemic? As the UK border asks for covid test results to be in English, French or Spanish, do the ones done in pharmacies here have English translations on them, or are they all in Italian?

Many thanks

modicasa Jul 26th 2021 10:41 am

Re: Visiting UK
 
There are labs which will give you an English version of the PCR test. Make sure you ask before you book for the test.

tpw21 Jul 26th 2021 11:02 am

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Originally Posted by modicasa (Post 13033466)
There are labs which will give you an English version of the PCR test. Make sure you ask before you book for the test.

Thanks a lot - do you know if the tests done at pharmacies are enough for entering the UK?
Thank you.

heritagestanley Jul 26th 2021 12:08 pm

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The test doesn't have to be a PCR test. It can also be an antigen test. Lots of pharmacies do them, and all the ones round us that do them will produce a certificatein English

jesnj Jul 26th 2021 12:13 pm

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I've been checking in preparation for our return trip and found that our local airport, Ancona does antigen and pcr tests and will supply certificates in English.

campos Jul 28th 2021 6:05 pm

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I got my pharmacy antigen test last week supplied in Ital and English.

Today's announcement allows fully vaxed EU to enter UK. Guardian reports the digital form is required for EU visitors while US visitors can present paper form of pass.

If anyone has a source for reasonably priced PCR tests required in UK...

Pica Jul 29th 2021 9:36 am

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Guardian reports the digital form is required for EU visitorsBut what if you don't have a mobile phone? Then what happens?

37100 Jul 29th 2021 2:56 pm

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Originally Posted by Pica (Post 13034702)
Guardian reports the digital form is required for EU visitors
But what if you don't have a mobile phone? Then what happens?

By digital, I think that they mean the QR code which can either be saved on your phone or downloaded and printed.


Geordieborn Jul 29th 2021 3:56 pm

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I think the .Gov.uk site here indicates the onus will be on your airline/travel company, so really their web site should tell you. Certainly the other day when I looked Jet2 at least had quite detailed information, but how quickly they are updating this fastly changing situation who knows.

Pica Jul 30th 2021 11:11 am

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Originally Posted by 37100 (Post 13034843)
By digital, I think that they mean the QR code which can either be saved on your phone or downloaded and printed.

Thank you

tpw21 Jul 30th 2021 5:59 pm

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Looks like i timed this thread well :p

From what I’ve seen all tests in the UK have to be booked before leaving Italia and done with government-approved suppliers.

I’m planning on going at the end of August for the first time in a couple of years.

jiminalpago Aug 2nd 2021 11:36 am

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Has anyone driven to UK recently; how much importance/attention is given to the Passenger Locator Form, please?
I have messed-up my application for a PLF account with the result that, if I try to start again, I am informed that an account already exists but has not been activated (the system requires the phone country code to be entered as"+" in the application and not "00").
The Immigration Service helpline, 0800 6781667, isn't.
I would be grateful for suggestions. I am catching the Rotterdam - Hull ferry on Wednesday evening (Test Rapido permitting).
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jiminalpago Aug 2nd 2021 2:38 pm

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Originally Posted by jiminalpago (Post 13036109)
Has anyone driven to UK recently; how much importance/attention is given to the Passenger Locator Form, please?
I have messed-up my application for a PLF account with the result that, if I try to start again, I am informed that an account already exists but has not been activated (the system requires the phone country code to be entered as"+" in the application and not "00").
The Immigration Service helpline, 0800 6781667, isn't.
I would be grateful for suggestions. I am catching the Rotterdam - Hull ferry on Wednesday evening (Test Rapido permitting).
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Who's a silly boy, then?
Looked at the site again and realised I don't need an account, I can use a one-journey Form, which I've logged.

tpw21 Aug 3rd 2021 8:59 am

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Originally Posted by campos (Post 13034452)
If anyone has a source for reasonably priced PCR tests required in UK...

Does the day 2 UK test need to be a PCR one? Or can it be a rapid one?

heritagestanley Aug 3rd 2021 11:15 am

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Day 2 test is supposed to be a PCR one, I'm afraid. The reason given is that only PCR tests are able to identify the genomic structure of infected samples and hence new variants. I'm not sure that this makes 100% sense, since it would be possible to require someone testing positive with a lateral flow test to then take a PCR test. But maybe that's too complicared

tpw21 Aug 3rd 2021 11:26 am

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Originally Posted by heritagestanley (Post 13036473)
Day 2 test is supposed to be a PCR one, I'm afraid. The reason given is that only PCR tests are able to identify the genomic structure of infected samples and hence new variants. I'm not sure that this makes 100% sense, since it would be possible to require someone testing positive with a lateral flow test to then take a PCR test. But maybe that's too complicared

Thanks for confirming. It seems that a rapid test is enough to get into the UK and get back into Italy though.

heritagestanley Aug 3rd 2021 12:08 pm

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Yes. Frustrating that different countries have different rules for the same thing. I've just had to fly back to the UK for a couple of days. I'm fully vaccinated. To enter the UK I need a pre-flight lateral flow or PCR test and then a day 2 PCR test, but no quarantine. To enter Italy I need a pre-flight test (lateral flow or PCR), then quarantine for 5 days followed by a lateral flow test. But we should count ourselves lucky that we're not travelling from France!

jiminalpago Aug 4th 2021 5:56 pm

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For anyone intending to travel by P&O Ferries, a warning,: the Passenger Locator Form has to be completed before you board, not before you reach UK, and Day 2 test booked. They did the booking, £40. I booked via Direct Ferries and was not warned with the booking confirmation or other messages. Regarding the PLF, the GOVUK web site, and 4 emails confirming my application repeat " ... before arrival at UK border.".
It took more than an hour to get the form cleared on-line; the GOVUK site was playing up. I was fortunate to have arrived 3 hours early and just before a party of 8 Swedes with the same problem!
The A61 in Germany is closed between West Köln Kreuz and Kreuz Meckenheim, sourh of Bonn. The diversion isn't well signed (Venlo only appears right at the end) but the traffic flow takes you on to the A565; take "Koln" (A555) and not "Koln Ost/ Airport" then follow "Aachen" (A4) to West Koln Kreuz and the A61. Best to avoid the area altogether
There is no sign of a border from Italy to Holland but at Brennero they at least have a flag.

jiminalpago Aug 5th 2021 6:36 am

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At Hull passport control:
"What do you need to see?"
"Only your passport, Sir."
And no Customs check.

Lorna at Vicenza Aug 5th 2021 8:43 am

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Originally Posted by heritagestanley (Post 13036492)
Yes. Frustrating that different countries have different rules for the same thing. I've just had to fly back to the UK for a couple of days. I'm fully vaccinated. To enter the UK I need a pre-flight lateral flow or PCR test and then a day 2 PCR test, but no quarantine. To enter Italy I need a pre-flight test (lateral flow or PCR), then quarantine for 5 days followed by a lateral flow test. But we should count ourselves lucky that we're not travelling from France!

No quarantine in the UK because you're double jabbed with a paper certificate and digital QR code?

heritagestanley Aug 5th 2021 9:02 am

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Yes

Lorna at Vicenza Aug 5th 2021 9:08 am

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Originally Posted by heritagestanley (Post 13037288)
Yes

:thumb:

jiminalpago Aug 6th 2021 1:39 pm

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Postscript
The literature I read and the exchanges at check-in referred consistently to "an appointment"".
Not so. I received diy kit by post this am.


Margaret M Aug 6th 2021 2:03 pm

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Originally Posted by jiminalpago (Post 13037898)
Postscript
Not so. I received diy kit by post this am.

That would be challenging for us - we don't get post delivered to the house, we have to use a post service in town.

jiminalpago Aug 6th 2021 2:49 pm

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Originally Posted by Margaret M (Post 13037906)
That would be challenging for us - we don't get post delivered to the house, we have to use a post service in town.

I wondered about saying I was going to be travelling around in a camper but chickened out: I wanted to board.

C.2s Aug 7th 2021 8:42 am

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Originally Posted by jiminalpago (Post 13037921)
I wondered about saying I was going to be travelling around in a camper but chickened out: I wanted to board.

Hi,

We came by camper via Hook of Holland last Tuesday. Did the free PCR test in the Netherlands. All very straightforward and easy to book in English. Obviously we had to spend a day in Holland waiting for the results, but that suited us. On the passenger locator form you still had (might have changed since last week) to give an address for ten days in case they need to contact you, but in practice you're free to move about as you wish (on the train to London at the moment writing this).

But it doesn't matter if you can't receive post at the address. You have to choose an authorised tester for the day 2 PCR test here, and when you do that you can see which providers allow you to collect from them. We went to the chemist, got the kit, did the test and sent it off, and you get the results by email.

I was very nervous about it all, and it was a bit stressful and time consuming (filling in the same details numerous times), but in the end it was all okay.

​​​​​​Trying not to worry about coming back to Italy in a few weeks because the rules might well change again, but at the moment it seems doable (with the issues about quarantine mentioned in other threads)

philat98 Aug 7th 2021 11:37 am

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That was a good move going to the UK. The thermometer is going up to 40C next week in central Italy.

tpw21 Aug 7th 2021 1:22 pm

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Originally Posted by philat98 (Post 13038146)
That was a good move going to the UK. The thermometer is going up to 40C next week in central Italy.

I think I prefer 40C over 16c and rain ;)

Geordieborn Aug 7th 2021 7:10 pm

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Very much agree about the rain, but 40c....

philat98 Aug 7th 2021 7:29 pm

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Originally Posted by Geordieborn (Post 13038219)
Very much agree about the rain, but 40c....

The problem with 40C is that the structure of the house starts to heat up. It is impossible to get it cooled down at night. I dont know how those folks in Canada coped with 50C. I look forward to September and more managable temperatures.

Geordieborn Aug 8th 2021 9:53 am

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Originally Posted by philat98 (Post 13038226)
The problem with 40C is that the structure of the house starts to heat up. It is impossible to get it cooled down at night. I dont know how those folks in Canada coped with 50C. I look forward to September and more managable temperatures.

You hit the nail on the head, if it is not cool enough for long enough the heat builds in the house. Think you have to experience such for a few months on end to know how bad this can be, it was only second to the quakes for us. Canada was awfully hot, but the overnight temperatures were quite low in comparison (21c), so if long enough would have give them a break. Still, I'm happy (ish) with the UK weather at present, again though over time it may get to me with the rain, rain, rain....!

jiminalpago Aug 9th 2021 6:11 am

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Not strictly on theme, but is phone charge Roaming another Brexit casualty? (I have been charged in UK for a call that in previous years would have been part of my package.)

Seldomseenkid Aug 9th 2021 7:21 am

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I am with EE and they charge for calls to Italy from UK at full rate but vice versa it is part of roaming. WhatsApp seems to be the way to go.

Serrano Aug 9th 2021 8:29 am

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Originally Posted by jiminalpago (Post 13038549)
Not strictly on theme, but is phone charge Roaming another Brexit casualty? (I have been charged in UK for a call that in previous years would have been part of my package.)

Yes, I'm afraid it is. The legal requirement for free roaming lapsed at the end of last year. All (or almost all) UK operators said they had no plans to introduce charges, but you can expect all to introduce them quietly in the not too distant future. Just remember, "Brexit, the gift that goes on taking"©

jiminalpago Aug 9th 2021 9:40 am

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Originally Posted by Seldomseenkid (Post 13038565)
I am with EE and they charge for calls to Italy from UK at full rate but vice versa it is part of roaming. WhatsApp seems to be the way to go.

My deal is Wind Call Your Country Gold (250 mins/month world wide €10). I had made some local calls and not noticed an effect but a call to Malaya wiped out €15 credit in a few minutes. WhatsApp it is, then.
Thanks also to Serrano.

Plan B Aug 10th 2021 11:26 am

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At the moment, Vodaphone and EE have re-introduced roaming, but O2 and Three have currently avoided imposing EU roaming charges and are sticking to a fair use data cap of 25GB and 12GB per month respectively.

tpw21 Aug 10th 2021 5:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Plan B (Post 13039009)
At the moment, Vodaphone and EE have re-introduced roaming, but O2 and Three have currently avoided imposing EU roaming charges and are sticking to a fair use data cap of 25GB and 12GB per month respectively.

I think they’re starting from January.

C.2s Aug 10th 2021 7:25 pm

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As this discussion about mobile phone charges is in the 'Visiting UK' thread I thought at first that you were all talking about people visiting the UK and using your Italian phones... but it seems like you're talking about the opposite...is that right???

My Italian Vodafone contract still seems to include the UK for calls and data without any extra charge as it does for EU countries...at least I hope it does as I'm using it here and I can't see that I'm being charged for it!

PSG2014 Aug 10th 2021 7:26 pm

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Originally Posted by tpw21 (Post 13039165)
I think they’re starting from January.

For NEW conracts I think !? Don't panic

jiminalpago Aug 11th 2021 3:31 pm

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[QUOTE=C.2s;13039222]As this discussion about mobile phone charges is in the 'Visiting UK' thread I thought at first that you were all talking about people visiting the UK and using your Italian phones... but it seems like you're talking about the opposite...is that right???

No, my case is Italian phone in UK.
I have since monitored the credit and phone calls within UK and to Italy are covered by my package fee; it may be that extra-European calls are not covered outwith Italy.


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