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brian12 Feb 17th 2021 6:50 pm

Re: Vaccination
 

Originally Posted by Geordieborn (Post 12974554)
The UK government is a disaster regards Covid, but on the vaccine I think they got it spot on and the EU got it totally wrong! I've just been told there is talk of not going ahead with the second jab at all here in the UK, now that might be another big mistake, but who knows what variants are around the corner?

Where was that info.I've got my 1st jab tomorrow and the 2nd booked for May 9th.

Geordieborn Feb 17th 2021 9:22 pm

Re: Vaccination
 

Originally Posted by brian12 (Post 12974767)
Where was that info.I've got my 1st jab tomorrow and the 2nd booked for May 9th.

I've not seen any such thing in the media, just someone local saying such, she is on covid front-line. We too have jabs today and the second booked for the 10th May, but nothing would surprise me.

philat98 Feb 17th 2021 9:56 pm

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Italy's vaccine rollout looks to be getting a boost with Draghi's new plan for 300k volunteers to give the injections.

nicktonight Feb 17th 2021 10:54 pm

Re: Vaccination
 
Are those of you getting jabs in the UK then and not Italian residents? The only Italians I know who have had jabs are doctors and pharmacists (but not pharmacy assistants!). I agree Phil that Draghi's new plan gives us a ray of hope. The EU unlike the UK seems to have completely underestimated or not even thought about the logistic problems of vaccinating millions of people and left manufacturing up to companies. The UK for instance have paid for Valneva to construct a brand new vaccine plant in Scotland. What is really annoying me is the overtly political criticism of the AZ vaccine and of course the more controversial but imaginative idea in the UK to just give a first dose to a maximum of people. In Italy they are only going to use the AZ vaccine for teachers under the age of 55. Older teachers will have to wait. What is the logic of that??

Geordieborn Feb 17th 2021 11:53 pm

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We are in the UK , for good the way it looks at the moment! When you think of the amount they know now compared to the start of C19, I'm sure they will learn a lot more. In some ways the maths indicate it makes sense to go for more single jabs, but it is also based on a relatively unknown true efficacy . This and the need to possibly give further jabs for variant's in autumn makes it hard to say which is right or wrong. Certainly the EU got their vaccine ordering wrong, but perhaps it's just a price to pay for unity. Trouble is that is is a very high price with covid.

brian12 Feb 17th 2021 11:54 pm

Re: Vaccination
 

Originally Posted by Geordieborn (Post 12974808)
I've not seen any such thing in the media, just someone local saying such, she is on covid front-line. We too have jabs today and the second booked for the 10th May, but nothing would surprise me.

No worries,you hear all sorts of rumours.Our rollout is going greatguns and the 3 month gap has proved to be ok.Good luck,Brian.

brian12 Feb 17th 2021 11:59 pm

Re: Vaccination
 

Originally Posted by nicktonight (Post 12974837)
Are those of you getting jabs in the UK then and not Italian residents? The only Italians I know who have had jabs are doctors and pharmacists (but not pharmacy assistants!). I agree Phil that Draghi's new plan gives us a ray of hope. The EU unlike the UK seems to have completely underestimated or not even thought about the logistic problems of vaccinating millions of people and left manufacturing up to companies. The UK for instance have paid for Valneva to construct a brand new vaccine plant in Scotland. What is really annoying me is the overtly political criticism of the AZ vaccine and of course the more controversial but imaginative idea in the UK to just give a first dose to a maximum of people. In Italy they are only going to use the AZ vaccine for teachers under the age of 55. Older teachers will have to wait. What is the logic of that??

Hi,no we are not resident,just holiday home owners.We drove back to UK early Dec and will drive back after our 2nd jab for 10 weeks.We have a cruise from Barcelona in Oct so have to save up the other 2 weeks,lol.Cheers,Brian.

philat98 Feb 18th 2021 1:07 am

Re: Vaccination
 

Originally Posted by brian12 (Post 12974858)
Hi,no we are not resident,just holiday home owners.We drove back to UK early Dec and will drive back after our 2nd jab for 10 weeks.We have a cruise from Barcelona in Oct so have to save up the other 2 weeks,lol.Cheers,Brian.

Do you have to prove you have been vaccinated to go on the cruise?

37100 Feb 18th 2021 1:56 am

Re: Vaccination
 

Originally Posted by nicktonight (Post 12974837)
Are those of you getting jabs in the UK then and not Italian residents? The only Italians I know who have had jabs are doctors and pharmacists (but not pharmacy assistants!). I agree Phil that Draghi's new plan gives us a ray of hope. The EU unlike the UK seems to have completely underestimated or not even thought about the logistic problems of vaccinating millions of people and left manufacturing up to companies. The UK for instance have paid for Valneva to construct a brand new vaccine plant in Scotland. What is really annoying me is the overtly political criticism of the AZ vaccine and of course the more controversial but imaginative idea in the UK to just give a first dose to a maximum of people. In Italy they are only going to use the AZ vaccine for teachers under the age of 55. Older teachers will have to wait. What is the logic of that?

I don't know where you are, but here in Verona and probably the rest of Veneto they are vaccinating over 80's at the moment along with police and teachers etc.

The 55 yr age limit for AstraZeneca has been moved to 65. Anyone older does not wait. They receive the Pfizer vaccine or the Moderna when authorised ( if it isn't already, I've lost track.)

brian12 Feb 18th 2021 3:41 am

Re: Vaccination
 

Originally Posted by philat98 (Post 12974900)
Do you have to prove you have been vaccinated to go on the cruise?

Hi,I belong to another forum called cruise critic.1 or 2 lines are thinking about vaccine passports,but it's all being debated at the moment.We are sailing MSC,don,t know their policy at the moment.Cheers,Brian.

modicasa Feb 18th 2021 6:26 pm

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I suspect the criticism of the AZ vaccine is probably more down to the lobbies than the science. The AZ vaccine costs 3 euros a dose as opposed to between 30 and 40 for the others. The J&J one will cost 10 a dose, so its obvious that Pfizer and friends will do all they can to discredit the cheaper version.

nicktonight Feb 18th 2021 6:37 pm

Re: Vaccination
 

Originally Posted by 37100 (Post 12974913)

The 55 yr age limit for AstraZeneca has been moved to 65.

Good news. Was this due to new scientific evidence or the Repubblica article pointing out that 40% of teachers are older than 55?
https://www.repubblica.it/scuola/202...eca-287787519/

philat98 Feb 18th 2021 7:16 pm

Re: Vaccination
 

Originally Posted by modicasa (Post 12975144)
I suspect the criticism of the AZ vaccine is probably more down to the lobbies than the science. The AZ vaccine costs 3 euros a dose as opposed to between 30 and 40 for the others. The J&J one will cost 10 a dose, so its obvious that Pfizer and friends will do all they can to discredit the cheaper version.

I didnt realise there was such a price difference. In Umbria there a few towns with very high numbers of infections. You might think they would get on and vaccinate all the residents at risk with the AZ.

brian12 Feb 18th 2021 8:57 pm

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Just had my AZ jab.Arrived 50 mins early but they squeezed me in,5 mins the whole process.

37100 Feb 18th 2021 11:32 pm

Re: Vaccination
 

Originally Posted by nicktonight (Post 12975148)
Good news. Was this due to new scientific evidence or the Repubblica article pointing out that 40% of teachers are older than 55?
https://www.repubblica.it/scuola/202...eca-287787519/

I think that it has more to do with bringing the age limitation in line with other states. There was also talk of move the second does to later, but that has met a lot of resistance from medical experts.


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