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riv Sep 15th 2021 8:19 am

UK national coming from PORTUGAL to Italy - what requirements ?
 
I am in Portugal ( since a month ago ) and would like to travel direct from Lisbon to Rome, to stay for a week with friends.

So I would be travelling from Portugal, not from the UK.

I possess the UK's NHS Certificate of Double Vaccination. [ Paper format. ]

Do I need anything in addition to the NHS Cert in order to enter Italy ? [ And if so does anyone know where to get it in the Algarve ? ]

All current info gratefully received.


Plan B Sep 16th 2021 11:08 am

Re: UK national coming from PORTUGAL to Italy - what requirements ?
 
This Italian site, linked to the Italian Ministero degli Affari Esteri, has a simple Q & A (in English) giving you all the travel requirements, as far as Italy is concerned.

riv Sep 17th 2021 8:36 am

Re: UK national coming from PORTUGAL to Italy - what requirements ?
 
Thank you. However, there remains a query.

The information provided states, inter alia,


present to the carrier and any other authorised person, an EU digital Covid Certificate or equivalent certificate showing proof that you have either: been vaccinated against COVID-19 with an EMA authorised vaccine and you have completed the prescribed vaccination cycle since at least fourteen days;

What I cannot find reference to is whether the NHS Certificate of Double Vaccination [ paper format ] is ' equivalent ' .

If so, it would appear to mean that there is NO need for a negative Covid test of any kind in addition to the Certificate of Double Vaccination.

So............anyone with experience of arriving in Italy equipped with the NHS Certificate ?? Were you required to provide a neg Covid test in addition to the Vaccination Cert.?

Plan B Sep 17th 2021 10:28 am

Re: UK national coming from PORTUGAL to Italy - what requirements ?
 
My daughter arrived in Italy a couple of weeks ago and there was no examination of documents at all at the ​airport. On my daughter's departure from Italy (returning to the UK) she had all her documentation verified at check-in and before boarding. So regulations may be applicable and enforced even before you are allowed to embark onto your plane in Portugal.​​​​​​

GeorgeYoung Sep 17th 2021 2:42 pm

Re: UK national coming from PORTUGAL to Italy - what requirements ?
 
Has anyone travelled over land to Italy? How did the process work when entering France (or other point of entry to Europe)? Presumably there were no checks at the Italian border?

Geordieborn Sep 17th 2021 3:30 pm

Re: UK national coming from PORTUGAL to Italy - what requirements ?
 

Originally Posted by GeorgeYoung (Post 13052597)
Has anyone travelled over land to Italy? How did the process work when entering France (or other point of entry to Europe)? Presumably there were no checks at the Italian border?

We have not, but 2 lots of friends have in the last month (one last w/e) and both stopped over in France, had tests booked at the pharmacy, but neither were asked at the border for anything....

Lugsbug Sep 19th 2021 5:05 pm

Re: UK national coming from PORTUGAL to Italy - what requirements ?
 

Originally Posted by GeorgeYoung (Post 13052597)
Has anyone travelled over land to Italy? How did the process work when entering France (or other point of entry to Europe)? Presumably there were no checks at the Italian border?

We travelled back overland from the UK this week. The only time we were stopped was at the Switzerland/Italian border - presumably because we were driving an Italian registered RHD car? We were not asked for the passenger locator form or evidence of jabs/tests - just where had we been and how much cash were we bringing in (e35 :) )

GeorgeYoung Sep 27th 2021 10:05 am

Re: UK national coming from PORTUGAL to Italy - what requirements ?
 
Thanks for the messages, useful to know.

tpw21 Nov 4th 2021 10:48 pm

Re: UK national coming from PORTUGAL to Italy - what requirements ?
 
I travelled from Stansted a couple of weeks ago and literally no one in the UK checked if I had a negative test, been vaccinated etc - same when arriving in Italy.

C.2s Nov 5th 2021 5:23 pm

Re: UK national coming from PORTUGAL to Italy - what requirements ?
 
Isn't it odd how different people's experiences can be!

Flight from Bristol to Pisa two weeks ago with Easyjet: Yes there were checks in the UK. I don't think the UK border staff check if you are following Italian rules...I imagine it's not their jurisdiction...but I am not absolutely sure if I remember this correctly so don't quote me on it. HOWEVER, there were several checks by the airline staff, and people were not allowed to board the plane until their paperwork was in order. (for example one person had the wrong date on their PLF and had to redo it). So if you hadn't got evidence of a negative test in the 48 hours before leaving you were not getting on the plane.

Yes there were also checks by border staff in Italy. But by that time of course everyone had their paperwork in order, so there were no problems for anyone on our flight

Margaret M Nov 6th 2021 12:54 pm

Re: UK national coming from PORTUGAL to Italy - what requirements ?
 

Originally Posted by C.2s (Post 13068839)
So if you hadn't got evidence of a negative test in the 48 hours before leaving you were not getting on the plane.

This is interesting - I thought we didn't have to have pre-departure tests to enter the UK. Are Ryanair still insisting on it? I am flying Bari to Stansted on Wednesday for a wedding, so obviously don't want to be refused boarding.

tpw21 Nov 6th 2021 1:24 pm

Re: UK national coming from PORTUGAL to Italy - what requirements ?
 

Originally Posted by Margaret M (Post 13069011)
This is interesting - I thought we didn't have to have pre-departure tests to enter the UK. Are Ryanair still insisting on it? I am flying Bari to Stansted on Wednesday for a wedding, so obviously don't want to be refused boarding.

You don’t need a test for going to the UK, nor to get on a Ryanair plane going to the UK. You have nothing to worry about, they’ll likely ask you for your proof of vaccine and the passenger locator form.
The last time I flew out of Stansted nothing whatsoever was checked either, nor when entering Italy.

Margaret M Nov 6th 2021 1:40 pm

Re: UK national coming from PORTUGAL to Italy - what requirements ?
 

Originally Posted by tpw21 (Post 13069014)
You don’t need a test for going to the UK, nor to get on a Ryanair plane going to the UK. You have nothing to worry about, they’ll likely ask you for your proof of vaccine and the passenger locator form.
The last time I flew out of Stansted nothing whatsoever was checked either, nor when entering Italy.

I have already uploaded my "green pass", and started completing the passenger locator form. We weren't asked for pre-departure tests when we got the Amsterdam - Newcastle ferry a couple of weeks ago, that is why I found it strange.

tpw21 Nov 6th 2021 1:48 pm

Re: UK national coming from PORTUGAL to Italy - what requirements ?
 

Originally Posted by Margaret M (Post 13069018)
I have already uploaded my "green pass", and started completing the passenger locator form. We weren't asked for pre-departure tests when we got the Amsterdam - Newcastle ferry a couple of weeks ago, that is why I found it strange.

I think the poster meant when flying to Italy, however the checking of the pre-departure tests is hit and miss from my experience.

C.2s Nov 6th 2021 2:18 pm

Re: UK national coming from PORTUGAL to Italy - what requirements ?
 

Originally Posted by tpw21 (Post 13069014)
You don’t need a test for going to the UK, nor to get on a Ryanair plane going to the UK. You have nothing to worry about, they’ll likely ask you for your proof of vaccine and the passenger locator form.
The last time I flew out of Stansted nothing whatsoever was checked either, nor when entering Italy.


Originally Posted by Margaret M (Post 13069018)
I have already uploaded my "green pass", and started completing the passenger locator form. We weren't asked for pre-departure tests when we got the Amsterdam - Newcastle ferry a couple of weeks ago, that is why I found it strange.


Originally Posted by tpw21 (Post 13069020)
I think the poster meant when flying to Italy, however the checking of the pre-departure tests is hit and miss from my experience.

Yes. My paragraph started "From Bristol to Pisa...". The checks took place in the UK prior to departure by airline staff and on arrival in Italy by border staff.

​​​​​​Perhaps they don't check every flight? Don't think it changes anything about the need for a test...I had driven my car in Italy for four years without being stopped but I always carry the necessary documents... which was just as well when I got stopped by the carabinieri on the way back from the supermarket last week. :-)

I'm going back for 3 and a bit days for a funeral in a few weeks.... does anyone know if we can now use the Day 2 test required by the UK as evidence of a test within 48 hours prior to departure for returning to Italy? I know it was a problem a few months ago because the UK were insisting on PCR testing for day 2, but now it seems that they are the same test. I think. Lateral flow seems to be the same as antigen?



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