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Re: Royal wedding
Originally Posted by modicasa
(Post 9290901)
Well since we're going off topic ----
OK - going on a bit - but ... For me it is not the Ruby aspect of Rubygate that is a travesty of democracy, but the concussione - which is as bad if not worse as Nixon and Watergate being a complete abuse of position and power for personal ends. he deserves to go down, and what is worse his party now shares in the myth that Ruby was the neice of Mubarak because they have voted to say so - Eternal shame on them all, which brings us to the Vatican and its hugely influential and harmful influence on the ITalian state - which btw it virtually runs - The Vatican runs the entire banking system, the entire class dirigente and therefore Italy. It is a charade of monumental proportions that church adn state are not connected - Opus Dei has more influence in ITaly than any political party - and therefore Italy as a democracy is way down the list - but then we knew that. . Let's look at reality, without hypocrisy, tons of men think it's very cool for a 70 y.o. men being able to get into his bed a 20 y.o. girl or having "eyes wide shut" parties :rofl::rofl:( I'm sick figuring him out that way though :rofl:) and they say Berlusca is " mica scemo" to like that. That's the most popular reaction of not sinistra people and said that they start giggling. We maybe Europe's shame, I don't know, but at least Old Berlusconi never had bl****b done at The Parliament, like Clinton at the White House.:rofl: Funny enough I met a guy at Clapham station last w.e. and started talking about Berlusconi, he said he had a laugh about the whole sexgate, and said that was younger than him and wished he had the same success with young women :blink:( tutto il mondo e' paese,""the world is the same wherever you go"" (?)) He thought it was kind of normal for italians, being latin,fall into these temptations.:D ( mmmhmmm..:huh:) He added they were a couple of english members of Parliament, in position to take public decision, involved into sex scandals, being gay and having sort of toy boys in Italy,inviting them to Uk and pay for their hotels, and stuff. Another story,nothing to do with italian situation, but that made me smile.. I agree about the concussione and what you say about Opus Dei and I would not forget CL.
Originally Posted by Anderson Council
(Post 9290919)
Hi Ambra. Can I just say, first of all, how good it is to have an Italian's view contributing to this site. I agree with a lot of what you say. The last left wing prime minister, Prodi, had less charisma than a dead fish. However, here in Puglia I think Nicchi Vendola is an admirable politician doing a fine job. And, although it shouldn't make any difference, I can't help thinking that it would do wonders for Italy's image around the world if it became the first country to elect an openly gay prime minister.
Anyway I will watch Kate&William's wedding, I watched four hours live on Diana's funeral, I can handle a Wedding! |
Re: Royal wedding
Originally Posted by ambra_wandsworth
(Post 9291338)
Anyway I will watch Kate&William's wedding, I watched four hours live on Diana's funeral, I can handle a Wedding! |
Re: Royal wedding
Originally Posted by indiebird
(Post 9291368)
I watched the whole Diana thing with total incredulous fascination. I was living in one of the rough Brighton housing estates at the time and every section of green was covered in flowers and tributes. I even saw a box of malteasers with a card. The card said: 'Enjoy these in heven Di' honestly!! Even I was lost for words.... I'm so glad we are allowed to bitch about her again now....... there was a long time when I thought the world had lost it's mind....
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No, there was definitely no joking allowed about it.... there probably still isn't in certain circles...... :unsure:
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I'm remember we were all quite shocked by the news on the Sunday morning when we arrived at the park to play football but we were calling Diana all sorts of names when we realised they had postponed the Liverpool v Newcastle match later on in the afternoon which we were planning on watching at the pub afterwards!
Football is more important than life or death!!! FFS!!! |
Re: Royal wedding
Originally Posted by duffer
(Post 9291586)
I'm remember we were all quite shocked by the news on the Sunday morning when we arrived at the park to play football but we were calling Diana all sorts of names when we realised they had postponed the Liverpool v Newcastle match later on in the afternoon which we were planning on watching at the pub afterwards!
Football is more important than life or death!!! FFS!!! From the outside I have to say that I was deeply sorry for her and her 2 kids, I really liked her; England never looked so warm as that day, it looked like there was a true affection in her regards... People so close and her family so distant, when cameras pointed at that gate and I saw the royal family or when the Queen made her speech, they looked so cold,( "it felt like minus 10 degrees from telly") and I'm talking about their expressions.. Fair enough the royal etiquette, being British, but there was something missing; or maybe that I just cannot understand being italian. Maybe media painted Diana as the unhappy, unlucky, lonely princess a bit too much, considering she had rights and duties as other people in her position, but she had something really special, in my opinion. That charisma that doesn't come from being royal, but comes from yourself. |
Re: Royal wedding
Originally Posted by modicasa
(Post 9290901)
Well since we're going off topic ----
However, watching Comic Relief the other week, and knowing that only the BBC could make such a prog, and only in the UK would you get such involvement and response made me very proud to be British/English/Yorshire. Both events cost/raise 100 million quid - I know where I would prefer my money to go.... |
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I clearly remember a TV advert for the Sun the night before the news broke about Diana-advertising photos taken with Dodi on the yacht. Then suddenly she became a saint not to be criticised and Mother Teresa's death was practically ignored.
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I clearly remember a TV advert for the Sun the night before the news broke about Diana-advertising photos taken with Dodi on the yacht. Then suddenly she became a saint not to be criticised and Mother Teresa's death was practically ignored.
I'll probably watch bits of the wedding though for curiosity value. Although I agree that it's things like Comic Relief that should make us proud! |
Re: Royal wedding
Originally Posted by K in Modena
(Post 9292992)
I'll probably watch bits of the wedding though for curiosity value. Although I agree that it's things like Comic Relief that should make us proud!
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Re: Royal wedding
Originally Posted by 37100
(Post 9293011)
Why? Why, not because of the quality of Comic Relief etc, but why because it should not take CR to make us give to those in need.
I remember when Comic Relief was quite new. In my family we might watch but we never gave money to charity or acknowledged the many homeless people sitting on the streets around Brighton. We weren't even supposed to mention them as you weren't supposed to see them. It was for 'other people' to do those sorts of things. Not us. I think things have shifted for the better now and charity in general has a higher profile than it did before. I don't think we would have turned anyone away who came to us in need (we weren't exactly a rich family either) but there was a definite sense that it was other people's problems and we had our own lives to live. I'm a bit more tender-hearted than the rest of them. I've always given money to people on the street and supported various charities and I cannot help but be moved by some of the amazing films that Comic Relief (among other things) have brought into my living room, via that little screen that sits there so harmlessly each and every day.... |
Re: Royal wedding
Originally Posted by 37100
(Post 9293011)
Why? Why, not because of the quality of Comic Relief etc, but why because it should not take CR to make us give to those in need.
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The sad truth is, that a lot of charities make a lot of money through CF and a often a large proportion is gobbled up by them directly. And even sadder, is the fact that people -including me- need this sort of thing (telethon, also) to see or remember what's around them. We can be proud of the quality of CF, but we should be ashamed of the fact that a large proportion of the population only remember to give at these time -and then sing from the top of the trees about how generous they are.:(
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I think charity is always good whoever you decide to donate to; but sometimes people forget to help their fellow neighbour in need.
We help people miles away and we don't care about next door...:( |
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Comic Relief is a registered charity and 100% of the money raised goes directly to those in need. THat is what makes it different from eg Christian Aid, which gobbles up 84 pence in the pound for its plush offices in the Haymarket and so on. Richard Curtis and the other founder members of CR made sure that CR, when it was founded, didnt have a megalithian structure but worked directly with voluntary groups who worked directly with the 'end product'. All requests for money from CR are vetted and accountable. So when the guys on BBC say all your money goes to good causes they are telling the truth. Gets down, soapbox stowed away.
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