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Efes123 Jul 31st 2014 4:14 am

Residency or Not?
 
Hi all,
New member here, so hi.
We are in the process of buying a house in Italy, and all seems to be going pretty well so far (touches nearby wood).

Today we had a chap from Pickfords round to give us an estimate for moving our stuff from the UK over to our new house. He left us with a document describing the rules for importing goods into Italy, and this is where my confusion starts. I was under the impression that we had a fair while before we needed to apply for residency, however, the form states that to import good we will need

Copy of the residency application showing the last residence country
This reads to me that we have to apply for residency before actually moving.
Any advice gratefully received
Confused :(

modicasa Jul 31st 2014 4:55 pm

Re: Residency or Not?
 
Depends where you are moving from? If its from within the EU then the rules are different. If its from outside the EU without residency you will be hit with import duty on your stuff. I would ask PIckfords what they mean.... !

Efes123 Jul 31st 2014 5:03 pm

Re: Residency or Not?
 
Thanks for the reply, I'll be moving from the UK, so EU

keysha Jul 31st 2014 6:37 pm

Re: Residency or Not?
 
I moved to Italy from Scotland 5 years ago and wasn't asked anything about being a resident. I used a company called Bishops Move who were excellent - if you've double checked with Pickfords and they insist it is right I'd give this company a call and see what they say about needing to be a resident.

Efes123 Jul 31st 2014 7:44 pm

Re: Residency or Not?
 

Originally Posted by keysha (Post 11354657)
I moved to Italy from Scotland 5 years ago and wasn't asked anything about being a resident. I used a company called Bishops Move who were excellent - if you've double checked with Pickfords and they insist it is right I'd give this company a call and see what they say about needing to be a resident.

Thanks, useful. I'll see what Pickfords say, then maybe give them a call.

Would the Italian Consulate be the right place for the definitive word on this?

keysha Jul 31st 2014 8:00 pm

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It would be worth asking but may take some time!

PSG2014 Jul 31st 2014 8:10 pm

Re: Residency or Not?
 
You certainly do not have to be resident to 'move' here, you are required to 'become' resident after 185 days (I think !).

I would think VERY carefully indeed about the pros and cons of taking up residency, a few of our friends have 'de'- residented themselves in the last year or so for various reasons.

PSG

Efes123 Jul 31st 2014 8:21 pm

Re: Residency or Not?
 

Originally Posted by PSG2014 (Post 11354731)
You certainly do not have to be resident to 'move' here, you are required to 'become' resident after 185 days (I think !).

I would think VERY carefully indeed about the pros and cons of taking up residency, a few of our friends have 'de'- residented themselves in the last year or so for various reasons.

PSG

Cheers, must admit I can't find anything about this apart from on mover's sites. But, just spoken to Pickfords who say it's only for non-EU citizens

Krakra Aug 8th 2014 8:31 am

Re: Residency or Not?
 

Originally Posted by PSG2014 (Post 11354731)
You certainly do not have to be resident to 'move' here, you are required to 'become' resident after 185 days (I think !).

I would think VERY carefully indeed about the pros and cons of taking up residency, a few of our friends have 'de'- residented themselves in the last year or so for various reasons.

PSG

Can someone please help with listing the pros and cons of being a resident here? Thanks in advance

modicasa Aug 8th 2014 5:37 pm

Re: Residency or Not?
 
Pro's - you get a carta d'identita
Cons - your life becomes a living hell.

Seriously - if tyou have the choice - ie you are not spending 183 days a year in Italy, then dont do it. You will pay more tax, much more tax, and you will become part of the Italian state which means hours and hours of misery in queues. If you are from an EU state, and plan to holiday here regularly, there is no need at all to get Italian residency and you remain happy and contented.

Sancho Aug 8th 2014 6:05 pm

Re: Residency or Not?
 

Originally Posted by Efes123 (Post 11353910)
Hi all,
New member here, so hi.
We are in the process of buying a house in Italy, and all seems to be going pretty well so far (touches nearby wood).

Today we had a chap from Pickfords round to give us an estimate for moving our stuff from the UK over to our new house. He left us with a document describing the rules for importing goods into Italy, and this is where my confusion starts. I was under the impression that we had a fair while before we needed to apply for residency, however, the form states that to import good we will need
This reads to me that we have to apply for residency before actually moving.
Any advice gratefully received
Confused :(

I think the "document showing last residence country' they want a copy of means a document showing your country of residence before the move - in your case the UK. It may also be your country of residence after the move. The point is that they want something saying where you and the goods are coming from, and especially whether it's an EU country or not, for customs purposes.

cardi Aug 9th 2014 11:13 am

Re: Residency or Not?
 
If you own a property in Italy you have more flexibility and will enjoy it much more by continuing as a UK resident.
Ask your Italian neighbours what life is like for a resident.

stefanaccio Aug 9th 2014 7:06 pm

Re: Residency or Not?
 
I would think that car registration and health insurance would be perhaps the two most salient concerns when considering the residency issue.

Efes123 Aug 9th 2014 7:33 pm

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I suppose a lot depends on how much disposable income you have, or whether you have a pot of money, or need to work and pay tax

sunnysider Aug 9th 2014 7:54 pm

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Am just watching this thread but just to say that's one hell of a damning post from modicasa who has always struck me as very practical and helpful and not inclined to discuss political issues as such.

Oh Italy - sort yourself out.


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