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Old Oct 26th 2022, 8:25 am
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Hi

I have read this on the webste of my comune
  • Riduzione IMU per i pensionati residenti all’estero (art. 1, comma 743, della Legge 234/2021- Legge di Bilancio 2022). Limitatamente all'anno 2022 è ridotta al 37,5% l'IMU relativa ad una sola unità immobiliare ad uso abitativo, non locata o non data in comodato d'uso, posseduta in Italia a titolo di proprietà o usufrutto da soggetti non residenti nel territorio dello Stato che siano titolari di pensione maturata in regime di convenzione internazionale con l'Italia, residenti in uno Stato di assicurazione diverso dall'Italia. Ciò significa che mentre nel 2021 per tali soggetti la riduzione d’imposta era pari al 50%, nel 2022 essa sale al 62,5%

    Anybody had experience of this? Does it apply to Brits as well or is it just for the Italians?


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Old Oct 26th 2022, 6:27 pm
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Hi

I have read this on the webste of my comune
  • Riduzione IMU per i pensionati residenti all’estero (art. 1, comma 743, della Legge 234/2021- Legge di Bilancio 2022). Limitatamente all'anno 2022 è ridotta al 37,5% l'IMU relativa ad una sola unità immobiliare ad uso abitativo, non locata o non data in comodato d'uso, posseduta in Italia a titolo di proprietà o usufrutto da soggetti non residenti nel territorio dello Stato che siano titolari di pensione maturata in regime di convenzione internazionale con l'Italia, residenti in uno Stato di assicurazione diverso dall'Italia. Ciò significa che mentre nel 2021 per tali soggetti la riduzione d’imposta era pari al 50%, nel 2022 essa sale al 62,5%

    Anybody had experience of this? Does it apply to Brits as well or is it just for the Italians?

I believe that it applies to all citizens of countries with a bilateral pension agreement. Previously only Italian citizens benefited, but that broke EU single market rules. 37% is only for this year. Normally, it would be 50%. No idea what documentation you need to provide.
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No. Its for Italian pensioners who live abroad (ie not in Italy) who have a property in Italy.
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No. Its for Italian pensioners who live abroad (ie not in Italy) who have a property in Italy.
They changed it this year, Modicasa due to EU norms. Don't know if it applies to all pensioners or just EU.( I'd dig out a link, but I'm away and using free wifi)
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That passed me by, but now reading the law Im not sure it anyway applies. I am currently going through this with INPS. THe UK is no longer in Europe so does not benefit and does not have a convenzione internazionale with Italy at the moment. Nobody - at least at my INPS - seems to know.
According to the law cited above, you must not be resident in Italy, but reside in a third state while receiving a pension from Italy or a country which has an international convention with Italy or the EU. Which of course will be a total nightmare for the comunes, because they only have a list of the AIRE subjects and cant prove or disprove anything if you declare you are eligible for the reduction, other than whether you are a resident or not.
Such a loophole wont go down well with our new government so I guess the whole agevolazione will be shelved pdq and pensioners will have to pay the same as everyone else.

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That passed me by, but now reading the law Im not sure it anyway applies. I am currently going through this with INPS. THe UK is no longer in Europe so does not benefit and does not have a convenzione internazionale with Italy at the moment. Nobody - at least at my INPS - seems to know.
According to the law cited above, you must not be resident in Italy, but reside in a third state while receiving a pension from Italy or a country which has an international convention with Italy or the EU. Which of course will be a total nightmare for the comunes, because they only have a list of the AIRE subjects and cant prove or disprove anything if you declare you are eligible for the reduction, other than whether you are a resident or not.
Such a loophole wont go down well with our new government so I guess the whole agevolazione will be shelved pdq and pensioners will have to pay the same as everyone else.
I suspect that you are right. After being suspended for a couple of years, reintroduced at a lower rate just in time for the elections.
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